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  • Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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    I'm pretty neutral on my thoughts about the reboot. It's not for me and I understand that some people have enjoyed watching it so I don't like to constantly whine and complain about it. But for me it does not match up to the writing in the Prime continuity, especially not to the original series which the reboot shares so many characters and concepts with. I was looking at parent reviews of OS Ben 10 on the slightly infamous site "Common Sense Media" out of boredom today since I only have one exam left. And what I read has led me to believe that there is a huge reason why the reboot seems to be restraining itself when it comes to everything to storytelling to character development to the transformation sequences and even the art style: because CN don't want the parents to be concerned and then ban their kids from watching the show (which would lead to less toy sales and profit). I will say that there are a great deal of parents who do approve of and highly recommend the show and deem it perfectly watchable for kids, although sometimes it may be worth having the parents watch it with them. However, there are also some parents who do not like the OS at all. Many seemed to be concerned that because the show had so many action scenes and admittedly brutal fight scenes, it would lead to their kids becoming violent because the kids couldn't differentiate between reality and fiction. They also seemed to despise how the relationship between Ben and Gwen was presented and how Ben was not a good role model for children due to his cockiness and immaturity. The alien designs also seemed to strike a nerve because they looked like (I quote) "something straight out of hell" and apparently some were far too scary. To all of that, my main response would be that Ben 10 was never meant to be a show just for kids, which seems to be a mistaken impression shared by many parents. It was made first and foremost to be an engaging and compelling show for all ages, with the main target demographic being 10-14 year olds - so not little kids. Yes there is violence but it is not graphic and in my view is necessary to an extent given that it is an action show. The relationship between Gwen and Ben is presented in a very realistic way rather than a 'candy' way (as I read someone saying on the website in defence of the show). They argue and bicker like siblings and are indeed imperfect characters but they do grow throughout the show and actually end up being more relateable for those watching who also aren't perfect. As for the alien designs, well, they're meant to be aliens and not superheroes in suits. Of course they're going to be weird looking and occasionally intimidating. I always thought that the designs were great even when I was much younger. So my conclusion from this? The opinions of a significant portion of parents (as I imagine that these views would be echoed outside of review websites) explain A LOT of the changes which we saw the reboot. The alien designs were changed to look more humanoid and less alien looking and "scary", and the art style was made simpler with a brighter colour pallet to stop younger kids getting scared. Ben and Gwen's relationship showed them getting along for the vast majority of the time to apparently set a better example to kids. The fight scenes are far more toned down and less creative than the original series. The villains are not as intimidating and there aren't significant consequences. One of the major reasons for so many of the reboot's changes is because the network wanted to cash in on the viewership of the younger end of their demographic of 5-10 years old, and so toned down the show so that their parents did not prevent them from watching. This might explain why a lot of Cartoon Network's shows are toning it down these days especially when compared to the mid 200s era. I'm really not trying to diss the parents here and I totally empathise with their concern for their children's wellbeing. Parenting can be rough at times (or so I am told by my parents). For me the solution would be to have sensible discussion with the kids and allow them to understand that lets say, Ben only fights against criminals or other really bad people and never used his aliens to attack anyone else . The misconception of 'all cartoons being for kids' often leads parents to make the mistake of allowing their young children to watch animated programmes which may be too complex or dark for their age, and then with the parents subsequently blaming the programme, it leads to CN making things more younger kid friendly at the cost of alienating the older side of their fanbase. For me, my parents were always cool with me watching Ben 10 as long as I didn't watch too much TV and as far as I remember I never developed behaviour problems while watching the show. In fact I'd think it's the opposite - I thought of Ben as a great role model while growing up, and the fact that he was imperfect only made me relate to him more.
  • Ben 10,000 and Ben's future in the Prime Timeline

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    Another thing I've noticed in the end ultimate alien Azmuth said to Ben he might give him the master control for the Omnitrix on his 18th birthday which would give access to over a million alien. But future Ben would end up with a mere 10,000 Alien ?
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  • Mature Ben or Cocky Ben

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    @Tactical-Ochoa Though I never said that there was anything wrong with Ben being different from Peter , just pointing out their differences. That is a good point, Ben has always been attention-seeking and cocky but unlike others who could've been stuck in his situation, he keeps that trait with him even when in the tensest of scenarios and to an extent his natural personality acts as a coping mechanism for him when in battle. So yes, he is behaving like that because he's "being Ben" , but inadvertently by seeing his heroism almost as a game at times, the mental side of it doesn't crush him.
  • Ben 10 character meme

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    @Mortie-10 I've used the template to make the meme I also managed to help get the format trending on the Ben 10 subreddit which was cool. [image: 1620837124618-final-template.png]
  • Discord connections for Ben 10 Club

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    PlayStation announces new partnership with Discord: https://www.sie.com/en/blog/announcing-playstations-new-partnership-with-discord/
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    It could be a very inaccurate retelling of the original series with a few twists and turns. The reboot show could be a thing long after Ben Prime's death or during Ben 10k where Ben wouldn't be cocky and would give information and stuff for the show.
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    There was no proper photo mode in Ratchet and Clank 2016 their "photo mode" patch was just them adding a option to hide the game's HUD and using the Plasma Striker to zoom in. Meanwhile another sony first party game Uncharted 4: A Thief's End had a actual photo mode which had came out in the same month as RaC 2016. Rift Apart does have a proper photo mode which can give Ratchet fans a glimmer of hope that insomniac is actually listening and improving. No Multiple saves RaC2016 even after people complained about into the nexus not having multiple saves in the now closed insomniac game's forum site. No weapon modding mechanics. When you change the armor or ship color in the extra menus. Close the game and play them game some more later. The armor and ship goes back to it's default colors. The game overall had lacked proper customization the predecessors had. The game's length was too short and it was delayed by over an entire year.
  • Why Did Ben 10 Get Rebooted? by D.C. Network

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    @npzman Maybe. I don't think that Cartoon Network would want to ditch their most popular franchise forever but Ben 10 may have indeed gone on a longer hiatus had it not been for input from overseas, which is believable considering how CN treated Omniverse towards the end of its run. @cooljay7 this makes me wonder what the future of the series is from CNs point of view. They've tried to make the reboot to push their toy line which according to their recent lack of sales has not worked that well. Is it too much to hope that they will actually focus on making a good series over selling toys? I hope so.
  • New game announced!!

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    Ben 10 Ultimate Alien : Comic Destruction for the ps3 is one of the most quickest games ever to Platinum.
  • Posted some Ben 10 Sims 4 designs on Reddit

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    Yeah I've seen people use Fifa games to make Ben 10 human characters. The results are interesting but only cared about Fifa cus my friends likes those games.
  • My Ben 10 aliens playlist

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    @Mortie-10 Here's mine [image: 1619813967998-playlist.png] I believe that it is a really balanced playlist with a range of different aliens, none of whom are too overpowered meaning that they are all of equal importance in my eyes. People may question why I have Rath in there instead of a proper strength alien like Four Arms or Humungousaur for melee combat, but the reason is that the Appolexian transformation would help me be fearless in battle. I'm by nature a quiet person who isn't the first one to put their hand up for a fight and I'd definitely be terrified if I had to engage in hand to hand combat, and Rath's personality would help me overcome that. Or else I could just swap him with Four Arms. Buzzshock and Feedback are also argued to be similar but I think that Feedback is more general when it comes to energy absorption and, well, feedback and is my personal favourite out of all the absorbing aliens. Buzzshock however is more electricity-specific and has powers which Feedback doesn't which makes me have him on my roster. I tried my best not to include any "fusion" aliens like Echo Echo or Jetray (especially not Jetray) as I find that they're too overpowered. Big Chill is the exception here, but only really because I would be worried about using Ghostfreak because of the Ectonourite personality thing. I also tried to include my favourite canon designs of all of them. Granted Pesky Dust's design is a bit unrealistic for me even though I like the idea of the alien, but it's the only one we ever got.
  • Was Vilgax an overused Villain ?

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    They just want to cash in the popularity of the character gotta sell those squid toys.
  • Albedo in the reboot?

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    @coreofthesun I think that number seems about right. It would be nice though to have more people participate on this website though. We still receive more and more new members.
  • Khyber - just how good a villain was he?

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    Adding from my original post, I think that Ben as a character is ultimately Khyber's foil. As a hunter Khyber's entire character is revolved around observing his prey or opponents carefully before striking. He wants to find patterns in their behaviour, he wants to learn everything about who they are, and then catch them when they are least expecting it. But Ben's unpredictability and fun loving nature which is so often seen as a flaw may actually work to his benefit and ultimately help him prevail in the end. This combined with him being the wielder of the Omnitrix may make it just as frustrating for Khyber to defeat Ben as it would be for Ben to defeat Khyber (for the reasons I outlined in the first post) which I believe would lead to a really interesting conflict between them despite the lack of personal or malicious intentions from Khyber.
  • HBO Max is coming to Norway fall 2021

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    @Mortie-10 said in HBO Max is coming to Norway fall 2021: @npzman @coreofthesun I have actually been using a VPN to get access to HBO Max for a couple of weeks now, and it actually works. And the HD quality is so good. Im just missing the Norwegian dub, but I think that I shouldnt bother to much about that now. In recent years, I actually found the English dub to be so much better. [image: 1619256112813-e12d5a91-0d4c-45b6-a4d4-4da49e01f286-image.png] Dude can you share the account and the VPN address. In your subscription plan do they allow multiple people to play the videos?
  • What happened to Vilgax after the original series?

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    @coreofthesun I always found it stupid how Vilgax tried to tempt Ben with ultimate power...because Ben already has ultimate power. It's in the form of Alien X, the same alien that later in Omniverse recreates an entire destroyed universe.
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    @coreofthesun Agree.
  • My new Ben 10 video game idea

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    @npzman I just love FusionFall and Punch Time Explosion, if it was those you where thinking about. There are some of my favorite games. But that was not exactly what I meant. I mean like, if, Ben was the one that turned into the CN characters through his Omnitrix, not just having them meet through a crossover or something.
  • Weird Ben 10 dream I had last night

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    @Mortie-10 my ben 10 dream was that I got transported to Bellwood and I met Ben & Gwen and we were fighting zombozo the clown And that.s when Ben kissed me