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      Last words...for now
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      Trivia time
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      @Tactical-Ochoa wherever you want

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      The website
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      Tactical Ochoa

      @Offbeatcat No, the website was down. I contacted the admin 2-3 days ago to address the issue. I guess from the look of some of the changes here, the website was down because it was being updated. Maybe.

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      Kevin and the Anti-trix
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      There's 3 new aliens for the Anti-Trix: Undertow, Dark Matter, and Thornblade (in order below). I think that Thornblade looks awesome.
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      Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3
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      I'm pretty neutral on my thoughts about the reboot. It's not for me and I understand that some people have enjoyed watching it so I don't like to constantly whine and complain about it. But for me it does not match up to the writing in the Prime continuity, especially not to the original series which the reboot shares so many characters and concepts with.

      I was looking at parent reviews of OS Ben 10 on the slightly infamous site "Common Sense Media" out of boredom today since I only have one exam left. And what I read has led me to believe that there is a huge reason why the reboot seems to be restraining itself when it comes to everything to storytelling to character development to the transformation sequences and even the art style: because CN don't want the parents to be concerned and then ban their kids from watching the show (which would lead to less toy sales and profit). I will say that there are a great deal of parents who do approve of and highly recommend the show and deem it perfectly watchable for kids, although sometimes it may be worth having the parents watch it with them. However, there are also some parents who do not like the OS at all. Many seemed to be concerned that because the show had so many action scenes and admittedly brutal fight scenes, it would lead to their kids becoming violent because the kids couldn't differentiate between reality and fiction. They also seemed to despise how the relationship between Ben and Gwen was presented and how Ben was not a good role model for children due to his cockiness and immaturity. The alien designs also seemed to strike a nerve because they looked like (I quote) "something straight out of hell" and apparently some were far too scary.

      To all of that, my main response would be that Ben 10 was never meant to be a show just for kids, which seems to be a mistaken impression shared by many parents. It was made first and foremost to be an engaging and compelling show for all ages, with the main target demographic being 10-14 year olds - so not little kids. Yes there is violence but it is not graphic and in my view is necessary to an extent given that it is an action show. The relationship between Gwen and Ben is presented in a very realistic way rather than a 'candy' way (as I read someone saying on the website in defence of the show). They argue and bicker like siblings and are indeed imperfect characters but they do grow throughout the show and actually end up being more relateable for those watching who also aren't perfect. As for the alien designs, well, they're meant to be aliens and not superheroes in suits. Of course they're going to be weird looking and occasionally intimidating. I always thought that the designs were great even when I was much younger.

      So my conclusion from this? The opinions of a significant portion of parents (as I imagine that these views would be echoed outside of review websites) explain A LOT of the changes which we saw the reboot. The alien designs were changed to look more humanoid and less alien looking and "scary", and the art style was made simpler with a brighter colour pallet to stop younger kids getting scared. Ben and Gwen's relationship showed them getting along for the vast majority of the time to apparently set a better example to kids. The fight scenes are far more toned down and less creative than the original series. The villains are not as intimidating and there aren't significant consequences. One of the major reasons for so many of the reboot's changes is because the network wanted to cash in on the viewership of the younger end of their demographic of 5-10 years old, and so toned down the show so that their parents did not prevent them from watching. This might explain why a lot of Cartoon Network's shows are toning it down these days especially when compared to the mid 200s era.

      I'm really not trying to diss the parents here and I totally empathise with their concern for their children's wellbeing. Parenting can be rough at times (or so I am told by my parents). For me the solution would be to have sensible discussion with the kids and allow them to understand that lets say, Ben only fights against criminals or other really bad people and never used his aliens to attack anyone else . The misconception of 'all cartoons being for kids' often leads parents to make the mistake of allowing their young children to watch animated programmes which may be too complex or dark for their age, and then with the parents subsequently blaming the programme, it leads to CN making things more younger kid friendly at the cost of alienating the older side of their fanbase.

      For me, my parents were always cool with me watching Ben 10 as long as I didn't watch too much TV and as far as I remember I never developed behaviour problems while watching the show. In fact I'd think it's the opposite - I thought of Ben as a great role model while growing up, and the fact that he was imperfect only made me relate to him more.

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      The future of the reboot
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      At this rate, i'd really just rather have the ben 10 series stop, rather then get a third season. i gave it chances, and i think it just...i don't care if we don't get another, series, though i want one. People associate this...thing....as ben 10 nowadays. i'm sick of watching my childhood be rebooted into an absolute JOKE of a series.

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      The website needs an overhaul
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      i wanted to bring it to the group's attention as well, hence this article

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      How I'd reboot Ben 10: Finale, The main 10.
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      My 5th change involves replacing crashhopper with XLR8, since jetray no longer took up the "stupid fast" spot. and yes, i'm still working on this.

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      How I'd reboot Ben 10: Part 2, characters
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      Revision #1: Ben and Gwen are to start out really disliking each other, yet needing one another. Ben has the power, but second guesses himself and has trouble making important decisions. Gwen is intelligent, and good at speaking her mind, but ultimately she can't fight (not at the start of the series, anyways). When they work together, Gwen can give ideas and advice for how Ben can use his aliens, and help him make tough choices in dangerous situations. Their dynamic needs to be utilized, and needs to be about the two growing to respect one another.

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      How I'd reboot Ben 10: Part 1, Story (season 1)
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      Story revision #1: Gwen would have a character arc throughout this season, of at least learning to be the support for Ben that he needs, and learning how she can be a hero, with what little she can do.

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      Alien worlds
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      The Fulmini species
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      They'd harvest energy to make weapons, then to decorate their bases with energy items. They'd use resources to feed and aliment their vehicles, using all of their resources raw like gems in SU, leading them to their current state due to greed and reckless use of their resources

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      Ben 10 reboot: A positives discussion
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      @tactical-ochoa This is a positivity channel. Keep your negative remarks in some other channel.

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      Ben 10k club
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      Ultimate OmniTri

      @andrew42 sure thing

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      What would Omni-enhancements be like for other Aliens?
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      I think Upgrade's Enhancement is going to be a mashup of all the Omni-enhancements we see, and it might even be the new alien, as Upgrade is the only alien we have yet to see used in season 2. XLR8 will probably get something pointless, like rockets to boost his speed or something. Or maybe Armor to protect him as he runs at dangerous speeds.

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      Project 10
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      @andrew42 I'm interested in what you got

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      Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2
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      also, we need to start a new thread. this is too long, and not on season 2.

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      The reboot's second season
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      @ebomnitrix hrmmm

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      Omni-enhance
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      Tactical Ochoa

      I'll at least give them credit for this. I don't know how exactly this is going to work for the show but based on what I've seen so far, at least it makes more sense than the Ultimate Forms in Ultimate Alien. That might change once season 2 premieres and I see it for myself but right now at the moment, it seems decent. Still looks like a gimmick to me but it still looks decent.

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      Omni-tricked: Omnitrix error?
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      @andrew42 Some of these theories are interesting but until the show itself establishes any of this, I just don't buy it at the moment. Also, even though I compare the Ben 10 reboot to the previous shows (mostly the original show), I would really rely on what was established in any of the previous shows to explain certain elements in the reboot...because this is a full continuity reboot. Everything that the previous shows established doesn't apply to this show. They could (and very much often have) use elements from the previous shows but this show is still separate from the previous shows. I also agree with @Oldtaku_dd. With the way that this show is structured as, I doubt that the Ben 10 reboot is going to get as deep as you guys try to discuss it as.

      Taking it as face value, Ben's DNA got deleted (or it glitch out or something) from the Omnitrix and somehow Vilgax was able to restore Ben's DNA. That's it. That's all I got to say about that very aspect of Omni-Tricked so far and I doubt that the show is going to go any deeper with that. If Ben's DNA really did get deleted from the Omnitrix, then it doesn't make sense as to how Vilgax restored it since that Ben's DNA wouldn't even be in the Omnitrix anymore...because it got deleted.