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    Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 4: Show/Episode Discussions cont.

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    • Offbeatcat
      Offbeatcat last edited by

      Anyways, maybe this has been mentioned before, but i want to change the subject...
      WHAT'S THIS?
      0_1507143308971_negative 10.jpg

      Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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      • Tactical Ochoa
        Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by Tactical Ochoa

        @andrew42 Look around. Look up videos on YouTube and their comments section. Go onto social media. Go onto the Ben 10 Planet Wiki. Etc. You will find that most fans and viewers don't like the Ben 10 reboot and even some people have mentioned how they noticed that plenty of kids that fit with the intended audience don't like the Ben 10 reboot. There was a YouTuber that works in retail that noticed how little to no one bought any of the Ben 10 reboot toys at the store that he worked at and how shelves filled with toys from the older shows were emptied out by kids pretty quickly.

        I don't think that everyone shares my opinions. Some people disagree with me and I'm completely fine with that. I also already stated before that on it's own, the Ben 10 reboot is decent at best and as I also stated before, I have mentioned certain things about the Ben 10 reboot that I thought were pretty good. I accept that this show isn't meant for me. Doesn't mean that I'm not going to give my thoughts on it anyways. I also do allow you guys to say nice things about the Ben 10 reboot. Plenty of times you guys talk about and praise the reboot, I don't respond. Why? Because I understand that you guys have your own opinions and I'm completely fine with that. What I'm not fine with is when you guys express bullshit and if that's what you're going to keep expressing, I'm going to call you out for it. Just because the show fits the status quo and is supposed to be more like TTG! doesn't mean that that's the right direction to go. I don't care if that's how things are because that doesn't always make it right. Christ, I don't even really care that much about TTG! itself anymore. I care more about what the show stands for and how it influenced Cartoon Network. So no, as long as you and others keep stating anything that is BS, I'm not going to stop. I'm also more than willing to state something positive if I find it to be good.

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        • Offbeatcat
          Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

          @tactical-ochoa Please, just stop. You're making this website super inhospitable...
          Also, i never said it was the right way, just that it works. Do you ever hear little kids say: "Ben 10 should fight moar bad guys" or "Ben 10 is to childish now" or "this doesn't make sense."

          Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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          • Ben 10 Fan
            Ben 10 Fan @Offbeatcat last edited by Ben 10 Fan

            @andrew42 That's just a screen Shot from an old Ben10 Reboot Commercial from 8 months ago.

            Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun

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            • Offbeatcat
              Offbeatcat @Ben 10 Fan last edited by

              @ben-10-fan oh

              Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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              • Tactical Ochoa
                Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                @andrew42 Pretty much yeah. I did just state that some people mentioned that they noticed plenty of kids expressing their dislike towards the Ben 10 reboot. I've even seen comments on YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, and the Ben 10 Planet Wiki of kids expressing their dislike of the Ben 10 reboot. You'd be surprised as to what kids really know and are capable of. Never underestimate them. I believe last year, a liberal reporter complained about how firing an AR-15 almost gave him PTSD. There are videos on YouTube showing little 10-12 year old girls firing AR-15s and having a blast. The new game, Cuphead, had this really stupid fiasco where a game journalist with 20 years of experience struggled a lot with just getting pass the very easy tutorial level. I saw a clip of a 4-year-old actually, properly explaining how to get pass the same tutorial level. I once saw a freakin toddler working his mother's phone and being able to efficiently use YouTube Kids to look up videos. Kids can really surprise you. There are a lot of kids out there that are a lot smarter and capable than many think.

                Also, try not responding to my comments if you don't want me to respond back. Just saying.

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                • Offbeatcat
                  Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                  @tactical-ochoa Congrats. You said something remotely positive, even if it wasn't about ben 10.

                  Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                  • Ultimate OmniTri
                    Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                    Actually after Omni-Tricked the reception to the reboot has been more positive then it was initially which i am very happy to see.

                    10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                    • Tactical Ochoa
                      Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                      @ultimate-omnitri True. The reception has become a little more positive. Most still see the overall first season as mediocre and bland but most fans and viewers do like Omni-Tricked. Even I said that it's arguably pretty good or at the very least decent. It's definitely the best episode in the first season. Granted though, if the second season doesn't deliver, we're going to be seeing that reception go back down. Still, Omni-Tricked did lighten things up some.

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                      • Ultimate OmniTri
                        Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                        The first episode was pretty good and although ive only seen 4 minutes of episode 2 that seems like it will be a good one to.

                        10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                        • Tactical Ochoa
                          Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                          @ultimate-omnitri Eh, there was a lot of pretty stupid stuff in the episode though such as the pilot (who has a pretty ugly design to her) pretty much being a dumbass. Much of the episode set up some pretty bland jokes. It also felt too easy for Gwen and Max to hack into freakin NASA...or whoever this government agency is. Most likely NASA. Things did get a little better once Ben battles Vilgax. Still really don't like how they implemented Vilgax though. Overall, it was an ok episode that felt more of the same as with the first season.

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                          • Ebomnitrix
                            Ebomnitrix Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                            I kinda felt the same way towards the NASA situation, it felt too rushed.
                            I think Ben's aliens and the Vilgax fight and crash landing made the episode good for me, I say for a season premiere its average.
                            But it seems like the Catdobbit episode is gonna be better since it actually does feel natural pacing and its about something none of the older Ben 10s has gone over, which is having pets.

                            It's Action Time!

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                            • Ebomnitrix
                              Ebomnitrix Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                              Battle at Biggie Box:
                              Ben vs Billy Billions vs Simon Says @ who gets the newest Sumo Slammer toy.
                              Billy loses and Ben finally becomes friends with Simon in the episode. They also established Billy made the backpack and tries to buy him off but fails to.
                              Aliens: Cannonbolt, Wildvine Enhanced (w/ usual sequence)

                              Bon Voyage:
                              I don't know what happens in the episode outside the description. But from my friend in the UK, he said the episode felt average, and Wildvine was only used to try to get Ben away from his sea-sickness.
                              Wildvine, Diamondhead, Heabtlast Enhanced (w/ All Wet sequence)

                              It's Action Time!

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                              • Tactical Ochoa
                                Tactical Ochoa @Ebomnitrix last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                                @ebomnitrix Uh, Kai Green wanted to have Ben as a pet werewolf.

                                As for NASA, it would've probably have been better if Gwen successfully hacked the ship near the end of the episode.

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                                • csgt
                                  csgt @Ebomnitrix last edited by csgt

                                  @ebomnitrix Actually, Ben did have a pet (a dog) on "Goodbye and Good Riddance". But I'm also excited for the Cadobbit episode (I think the Cadobbit won't become Ben's permanent pet though, but I will be pleasant surprised if that happens)

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                                  • Tactical Ochoa
                                    Tactical Ochoa @csgt last edited by

                                    @csgt Oh yeah, that's right. Ben's family already did have a pet dog in the original show.

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                                    • Tactical Ochoa
                                      Tactical Ochoa last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                                      Oh and don't make the hacking bit successful out of pure luck. It doesn't make Gwen's effort feel rewarding and satisfying. It made the writing feel a little lazy.

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                                      • Ultimate OmniTri
                                        Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                                        Actually i think that maybe Max had experience hacking stuff and just acted like it was an accident to hide his past. But thats just a theory.

                                        10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                                        • Tactical Ochoa
                                          Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                                          @ultimate-omnitri I don't know. They never hinted to Max being a Plumber and Max had constantly been portrayed as a more goofy grandfather compared to how he was portrayed in the previous shows. It's more likely that Max just managed to breach the firewall by accident. I'm still sticking to my prediction that Max isn't a Plumber in the reboot show.

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                                          • Offbeatcat
                                            Offbeatcat last edited by

                                            I feel like Grandpa max is a plumber in this show. they've dropped many hints. After seeing the groundhog bikers, grandpa max said it reminded him of his old days. Gwen and Ben thought he was part of a motorcycle gang, but he could be referring to dealing with mutants before. Also, when Max is about to jump into the volcano, phil remarks: "Still as reckless as ever" meaning Max has done something as dangerous as this. I wouldn't assume that he was a plumber, since phil knew what the omnitrix was, and he and max seem to have a history...

                                            Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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