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  • Actually after Omni-Tricked the reception to the reboot has been more positive then it was initially which i am very happy to see.

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    @ultimate-omnitri True. The reception has become a little more positive. Most still see the overall first season as mediocre and bland but most fans and viewers do like Omni-Tricked. Even I said that it's arguably pretty good or at the very least decent. It's definitely the best episode in the first season. Granted though, if the second season doesn't deliver, we're going to be seeing that reception go back down. Still, Omni-Tricked did lighten things up some.

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    The first episode was pretty good and although ive only seen 4 minutes of episode 2 that seems like it will be a good one to.

  • The first episode was pretty good and although ive only seen 4 minutes of episode 2 that seems like it will be a good one to.

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    @ultimate-omnitri Eh, there was a lot of pretty stupid stuff in the episode though such as the pilot (who has a pretty ugly design to her) pretty much being a dumbass. Much of the episode set up some pretty bland jokes. It also felt too easy for Gwen and Max to hack into freakin NASA...or whoever this government agency is. Most likely NASA. Things did get a little better once Ben battles Vilgax. Still really don't like how they implemented Vilgax though. Overall, it was an ok episode that felt more of the same as with the first season.

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    I kinda felt the same way towards the NASA situation, it felt too rushed.
    I think Ben's aliens and the Vilgax fight and crash landing made the episode good for me, I say for a season premiere its average.
    But it seems like the Catdobbit episode is gonna be better since it actually does feel natural pacing and its about something none of the older Ben 10s has gone over, which is having pets.

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    Battle at Biggie Box:
    Ben vs Billy Billions vs Simon Says @ who gets the newest Sumo Slammer toy.
    Billy loses and Ben finally becomes friends with Simon in the episode. They also established Billy made the backpack and tries to buy him off but fails to.
    Aliens: Cannonbolt, Wildvine Enhanced (w/ usual sequence)

    Bon Voyage:
    I don't know what happens in the episode outside the description. But from my friend in the UK, he said the episode felt average, and Wildvine was only used to try to get Ben away from his sea-sickness.
    Wildvine, Diamondhead, Heabtlast Enhanced (w/ All Wet sequence)

  • I kinda felt the same way towards the NASA situation, it felt too rushed.
    I think Ben's aliens and the Vilgax fight and crash landing made the episode good for me, I say for a season premiere its average.
    But it seems like the Catdobbit episode is gonna be better since it actually does feel natural pacing and its about something none of the older Ben 10s has gone over, which is having pets.

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    @ebomnitrix Uh, Kai Green wanted to have Ben as a pet werewolf.

    As for NASA, it would've probably have been better if Gwen successfully hacked the ship near the end of the episode.

  • I kinda felt the same way towards the NASA situation, it felt too rushed.
    I think Ben's aliens and the Vilgax fight and crash landing made the episode good for me, I say for a season premiere its average.
    But it seems like the Catdobbit episode is gonna be better since it actually does feel natural pacing and its about something none of the older Ben 10s has gone over, which is having pets.

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    @ebomnitrix Actually, Ben did have a pet (a dog) on "Goodbye and Good Riddance". But I'm also excited for the Cadobbit episode (I think the Cadobbit won't become Ben's permanent pet though, but I will be pleasant surprised if that happens)

  • @ebomnitrix Actually, Ben did have a pet (a dog) on "Goodbye and Good Riddance". But I'm also excited for the Cadobbit episode (I think the Cadobbit won't become Ben's permanent pet though, but I will be pleasant surprised if that happens)

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    @csgt Oh yeah, that's right. Ben's family already did have a pet dog in the original show.

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    Oh and don't make the hacking bit successful out of pure luck. It doesn't make Gwen's effort feel rewarding and satisfying. It made the writing feel a little lazy.

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    Actually i think that maybe Max had experience hacking stuff and just acted like it was an accident to hide his past. But thats just a theory.

  • Actually i think that maybe Max had experience hacking stuff and just acted like it was an accident to hide his past. But thats just a theory.

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    @ultimate-omnitri I don't know. They never hinted to Max being a Plumber and Max had constantly been portrayed as a more goofy grandfather compared to how he was portrayed in the previous shows. It's more likely that Max just managed to breach the firewall by accident. I'm still sticking to my prediction that Max isn't a Plumber in the reboot show.

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    I feel like Grandpa max is a plumber in this show. they've dropped many hints. After seeing the groundhog bikers, grandpa max said it reminded him of his old days. Gwen and Ben thought he was part of a motorcycle gang, but he could be referring to dealing with mutants before. Also, when Max is about to jump into the volcano, phil remarks: "Still as reckless as ever" meaning Max has done something as dangerous as this. I wouldn't assume that he was a plumber, since phil knew what the omnitrix was, and he and max seem to have a history...

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  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Charm Offensive

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    @csgt I do agree with you on Charmcaster's UAF design. Granted, as shown in the quote that you're using to respond to, that's not the point that I'm addressing here. I'm not stating that Charmcaster's UAF design looks unique overall. I'm stating that it looks better and more unique than Charmcaster's reboot design. Even though her UAF design isn't really unique on its own, is most certainly not a design that I like and favor, and doesn't even hold a candle to Charmcaster's OS design, it is a better and more visually unique design when compared to Charmcaster's reboot design, which, again, looks very much like a typical and generic Goth girl. Considering how they've handled the Ben 10 reboot so far, I doubt that they're going to make a connection between Hex and Charmcaster in the reboot. Her first name being Hope and the concept of Ledgerdomain itself are pretty much the only things related to Charmcaster in UAF that I liked. Ledgerdomain does have some nice potential and Hope sounds pretty ironic considering what Charmcaster went through with Hex before the events of the Original Series. Everything else with Charmcaster in UAF is stuff that I don't like. I most especially don't like how they handled her relationship with Hex in UAF though given that it very much conflicts with what was established with them in the OS. Granted, you do make a good point. Charmcaster, and Hex, were terribly handled and written in the sequel shows. However, when it came down to Charmcaster as a character, I really only compared the reboot Charmcaster to the OS Charmcaster because yeah, Charmcaster went through a pretty severe downgrade in the sequel shows and Charmcaster was at her best in the OS. I do have an interest in making an article about Charmcaster and analyzing her as a character, much like how I did with other characters such as Julie Yamamoto and Professor Paradox. I know for sure that this Charmcaster article is going to address the points about her in UAF that you made here.
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    There are some issues people aren't realizing though, most people want to watch shows online, not just for free and to avoid ads, but to just watch everything faster and avoid all the crappy shows the network has to offer. Cartoon Network barely makes a million views now because they're focusing on a streaming service that nobody is going to use. Boomerang will be a shock if there is enough people touching it but overall CN is going to screw themselves over if they focus more on the business and not the channel itself, which they haven't been doing since 2015. They maybe thinking TTG is going to lead them to success but they're wrong if they think only airing a handful of all the shows you're making right now is going to do anything, if you have 20 shows and only air 5 and a movie we've already seen a million times, its not going to do enough for the network to last much longer, take a look at what happened to Nickelodeon, they've been losing money to the point where they lost the amusement park, and I doubt anybody really watches the award shows anymore. And another thing to mention, the only way to get ratings is a Nielsen box or to have Xfinity, they won't count the ratings any other cable providers offers so the ratings wouldn't do much since it only goes to those people. Now for what reason I don't know, but since a lot less people either don't have those boxes and prefer watching shows online, even on properties like KissCartoon/KissAsian, WatchCartoonsOnline, Animeflavor, Gogoanime, you name it, and its a long list.
  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: All Wet

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    @Tactical-Ochoa Thats ok.
  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Clocktopus

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    After some thinking, I realized something that I forgot to mention. On its own and when compared to the Original Series episode, Last Laugh (considering that both episodes use the same story premise in regards to Ben dealing with his own fears), The Clocktopus is still not a good episode. It still suffers from poor writing and I mentioned other aspects of this episode that also holds it back. However, when compared to other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot show, it is a better episode. Despite the problems that I have with Steam Smythe, I still like the theme of his character and he is at least a better villain than the other villains that were showcased in the reboot. He's just an annoying villain much like with the Weatherheads and, at least to me, the writers just exaggerated a little too much to him or something of the likes. Like I said, there was some potential with this villain. Like I also said before, at least Ben's fear of squids does give him some struggle with fighting Steam Smythe and thus helps to make the conflict a little more challenging. So yeah, even though I find that the episode still had some really poor writing and the episode itself is still not good, it is better than the other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot. However, considering the quality of the other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot, that's not saying much. At best this episode is just average.
  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Ring Leader

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