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  • Excited about the Ben 10 Reboot this fall? We're too.

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    ![alt text]([image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgZ_sP1QIp-88QnVXorOZGnWVJqPbBW3pULg&s]) When is Spanner getting his cartoon series?
  • Ben, Gwen, Kevin, Vilgax and every alien in the Omnitrix — discuss the characters of the Ben 10 universe.
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    I miss Spanner's Ben 10 story, and I'm wonder why Ben 10's son hasn't had his own cartoon series.
  • Episode-by-episode discussion and reviews across Ben 10, Alien Force, Ultimate Alien, Omniverse and the reboot.
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    There are two things that I'm going to address here with this season finale in Ultimate Alien. One, Ben's decision to kill Kevin and two, what I think is a missed opportunity with Ultimate Kevin. Now it has been a while since I've seen Ultimate Alien so if I get anything wrong, feel free to correct me on it. In regards to Ben wanting to kill Kevin, I recall seeing many in discussions argue that it was an out of character moment. That it wasn't something that Ben would've actually done. I don't think that is what makes his decision to kill Kevin the problem here. I think it's more on the matter that it wasn't handled well. Maybe even came out of nowhere and had little to no build up or something. The idea of Ben being pushed to kill someone is actually a solid direction to take the character in and this isn't the first time this actually happened in the franchise either. The Ben 10,000 episode in the Original Series established that there would be a point where Ben would kill Vilgax and do so in a rather brutal and gory fashion. In fact, the Little Moments fan fiction series very much indeed has Ben kill Vilgax in the very fashion that the Ben 10,000 episode implied and I say that it was handled quite well. This is an event that would impact Ben's transition into Ben 10,000. Heck, the Ken 10 episode showed Ben nearly beating Kevin 11,000 to death because Kevin harmed Ben's son, Ken. It wouldn't be out of character for Ben to be pushed into killing someone, but instead, is an important character moment for him. I just don't think that the Absolute Power season finale in Ultimate Alien handled that well. There is one thing that I do think was certainly out of character for Ben to do and that is attack Gwen. Given everything that those two have been through together, how much their relationship has improved, and how much they care for each other, I don't see Ben EVER doing that. I had that same issue with the 3D CGI Ben 10 short that was meant to promote Destroy All Aliens as well. No matter how much they fought and argued with each other, I don't see them going so far as to use the Omnitrix and magic to literally fight each other. That was one of the dumbest and nonsensical moments in Ben 10 and their fight scene with each other in Absolute Power was also dumb and nonsensical. Then there's Ultimate Kevin. I've stated plenty of times before on how I prefer for Kevin to be a villain instead of a hero and explained my reasonings as to why. I think it just seems more fitting for Kevin to be a villain and to fulfill the role of being Ben's evil reflection. I think Ultimate Kevin is a missed opportunity to put Kevin back into that very role. Not just that, but also act as a good and fitting moment that would significantly impact Ben's transition into Ben 10,000. I stated this in a Ben 10 Discord server that I'm in so I'm going to share it here as well. I think how I would've handled the Absolute Power finale is not have Ben decide right away that Kevin needed to be killed. Instead, have Ben contemplate how he should handle Kevin. To make a tough decision of whether if there still is a way to help Kevin or if Ben really is forced to have to kill him in order to stop him, an option that Ben doesn't want to pursue. After all, Ben is a hero. He wants to help people. Ben and Gwen work together to hatch up a plan to help Kevin. They don't fight each other. They work together. I think almost everything else from that finale can pretty much stay. Darkstar and Cooper are recruited and preparations are being made. Kevin absorbs some of Gwen's mana, thus painting a target on her, which makes Ben concerned. Kevin just hurt Gwen and the plan relies on Gwen intentionally putting herself in danger and being bait. Maybe the plan is starting to get too risky now, thus Ben contemplates his options of killing or saving Kevin again for the reason of wanting to protect Gwen. Ben cares about Gwen and doesn't want for Gwen to get hurt or worse. The plan is enacted and then things go wrong. The plan falls apart (maybe at least some of the energy and DNA that Kevin absorbed is taken out of him to be given back to his victims). Maybe Darkstar betrays the group and sabotages the machine that was supposed to turn Kevin back to normal. Maybe Kevin has too much energy and DNA in him and it causes the machine to overload and malfunction. Either way, Kevin doesn't return back to normal. Kevin is still in his mutated and insane state and he goes after Gwen. Gwen's life is in danger, pushing Ben to his limit and he nearly kills Kevin to protect her. The plan is a failure and it seems that there's pretty much nothing that can be done now to help Kevin. Kevin is too far gone and all that can be done at this point is to toss him into the Null Void. Ben and Gwen are deeply impacted by this event, thus contributing to Ben's transition into Ben 10,000. I think this is pretty much how I would've handled Absolute Power differently here. I think this would make Ben's decision to kill Kevin seem more fitting and better handled, Kevin would be a villain again, and this would be a character defining moment that would impact Ben's transition into Ben 10,000. If anyone has any thoughts of their own on this topic, feel free to leave a comment.
  • Ideas for new Ben 10 aliens, episodes and storylines, plus suggestions for how Ben 10 Club itself should work.
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  • My Ben 10 aliens playlist

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    @Mortie-10 Here's mine [image: 1619813967998-playlist.png] I believe that it is a really balanced playlist with a range of different aliens, none of whom are too overpowered meaning that they are all of equal importance in my eyes. People may question why I have Rath in there instead of a proper strength alien like Four Arms or Humungousaur for melee combat, but the reason is that the Appolexian transformation would help me be fearless in battle. I'm by nature a quiet person who isn't the first one to put their hand up for a fight and I'd definitely be terrified if I had to engage in hand to hand combat, and Rath's personality would help me overcome that. Or else I could just swap him with Four Arms. Buzzshock and Feedback are also argued to be similar but I think that Feedback is more general when it comes to energy absorption and, well, feedback and is my personal favourite out of all the absorbing aliens. Buzzshock however is more electricity-specific and has powers which Feedback doesn't which makes me have him on my roster. I tried my best not to include any "fusion" aliens like Echo Echo or Jetray (especially not Jetray) as I find that they're too overpowered. Big Chill is the exception here, but only really because I would be worried about using Ghostfreak because of the Ectonourite personality thing. I also tried to include my favourite canon designs of all of them. Granted Pesky Dust's design is a bit unrealistic for me even though I like the idea of the alien, but it's the only one we ever got.
  • HBO Max is coming to Norway fall 2021

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    @Mortie-10 said in HBO Max is coming to Norway fall 2021: @npzman @coreofthesun I have actually been using a VPN to get access to HBO Max for a couple of weeks now, and it actually works. And the HD quality is so good. Im just missing the Norwegian dub, but I think that I shouldnt bother to much about that now. In recent years, I actually found the English dub to be so much better. [image: 1619256112813-e12d5a91-0d4c-45b6-a4d4-4da49e01f286-image.png] Dude can you share the account and the VPN address. In your subscription plan do they allow multiple people to play the videos?
  • Ben 10 #RestoreTheOmniverse hashtag tweet day tomorrow

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    @coreofthesun Agree.
  • what would ultumet alien x look like

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    @Albedo Like this: [image: 1618591495206-ultimate-alien-x.jpg]
  • I appologize

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  • what did azmuth do with the ultramatrix

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    @Albedo He destroyed it.
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    @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah it is slightly annoying that they used the series to sell more toys and merchandise over time. Although I find it funny that despite all the Omnitrix models. they never made an Albedo Omnitrix/Ultimatrix despitethat was one of the reasons that Albedo was such a popular character - because he was Ben but with a red colour scheme . I bet that everyone back in the day wanted a red Omnitrix.
  • Derrick J. Wyatt Post Omniverse artwork repository

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    Ventrilosquid [image: 1618367022445-8246a3c3-81d8-4013-bf08-b7c02fbd5a91-image.png]
  • Crazy theory time: What if every Ben 10 series is a different universe?

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    It's a fun way to think about this what if every Ben 10 show was it's own standalone universe. It would seem odd to have alien force and ultimate alien as standalone universes.
  • Derrick J. Wyatt Post Omniverse artwork discussion

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    It's now all in one place thanks to my suggestion https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/Crew's_Unofficial_Artwork
  • Now that the Ben 10 Reboot is over what's next?

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    @cooljay7 said in Now that the Ben 10 Reboot is over what's next?: https://twitter.com/DCNetwork23/status/1381750728323125248 Why can't we get #BringBackActionBen trending to show Cartoon Network and Man of Action that we want the next series to return to the original continuity? Apparently #RestoreTheOmniverse is already trending in some countries. Unfortunately, I don't have a twitter, otherwise I'd retweet the hashtag. I saw a screenshot that someone posted saying that there's almost 19k tweets using the hashtag.
  • New Ben 10 Club Merchandise

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    I most certainly would maybe advertise it when you make more videos on the Ben 10 club YouTube channel
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  • What NON-Cartoon Network TV channel have you watched Ben 10 on?

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    For those wondering why I want to know this stuff, it's because of this suggestion I made about listing TV Networks that aired a Ben 10 show around the world for the Ben 10 wiki. Today a wiki admin has just highlighted the blog post and it will be up for voting for 7 days. https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Npzman1/List_of_TV_stations_that_aired_Ben_10_around_the_world If you have held a fandom.com account for 7 days, made 15 big wiki edits, and made 5 small wiki edits within the last two months for the Ben 10 Wiki. Then hop over to that link above and vote to support this proposal of mine. Let's get this done.
  • My hopes for the 6th Ben 10 series

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    @npzman Did I say that I wasn't into them? I don't recall that. Also, I'm pretty sure that Insomniac's Spider-Man games aren't platformers. They're open world action games. Unless it shows up on PC, I won't be playing it for a while. I haven't owned a Playstation console since the Playstation 1 and I won't be getting a new console for quite a while. I'm pretty well settled with my gaming PC at the moment. I also don't recall saying that I'm always into more mature and darker games.
  • What's your favourite Ben 10 Video Game

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    @npzman Tried that. It didnt work.
  • Has anyone been caught up with the latest cartoon network show

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    @Mortie-10 said in Has anyone been caught up with the latest cartoon network show: Infinity Train is the only good Cartoon Network show right now. Too bad they cancelled it by cutting the show down from a planned 8 seasons to now 4 seasons. Yet they rather go back to live action. Really shaking my head here
  • 6th Ben 10 Series

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    Yeah DC offers content for both children and edgy stuff for adults, I don't see why it can't happen under sister platform from CN. I hope it's UAF or UAF inspired
  • Why was never Gwen naked in the show?

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    If Ben 10 gets an HBO Max show in the future, I hope we can have a scene with a completely naked Gwen for once. I mean, the girl (I dont remember her name) in Close Enough was naked in one of the season 2 episodes, and only her hands was censoring her. And that was on HBO Max. Really hope that we get to see Gwen in a similar situation.
  • Ben Prime from the original continuity to appear in the Ben 10 Reboot

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    Why did I even say hyped at all When it's out I will watch it. If it ends up good then great I guess. It really gonna be my first time watching the reboot outside the first few episodes. If the execution of the original characters turns out to be terrible, well honestly I couldn't expect less from them.