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  • @npzman making the reboot fail won't save Ben 10 you know, just wait till the series ends and see what happens. Killing the reboot isn't going to convince CN, yes I would love a serious Ben 10 show, but in just fine with this series as well and I'm giving it a chance.

    Ben 10 Fans
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    @Rexfan1333
    I don't care if it's serious or comedy oriented. I want it CN to pick the series from where omniverse left off.

    Just like where omniverse picked up the series from where ultimate alien left off

  • @Rexfan1333
    I don't care if it's serious or comedy oriented. I want it CN to pick the series from where omniverse left off.

    Just like where omniverse picked up the series from where ultimate alien left off

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    @npzman they probably won't be doing that. Sorry dude.

  • @Rexfan1333
    I don't care if it's serious or comedy oriented. I want it CN to pick the series from where omniverse left off.

    Just like where omniverse picked up the series from where ultimate alien left off

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    @npzman wont happen omniverse wasn't recieved well enough to get a sequel

  • @Rexfan1333
    I don't care if it's serious or comedy oriented. I want it CN to pick the series from where omniverse left off.

    Just like where omniverse picked up the series from where ultimate alien left off

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    @npzman But Omniverse already ended though as well because the series wasn't well received in the toy department.

  • Ben 10 Fans
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    Well I don't buy any ben 10 toy in fact not even any toys . But because of the reboot I will
    go out of my way to not buy any ben 10 reboot toys just let it fail .

    I only watch their shows and play their games

  • Well I don't buy any ben 10 toy in fact not even any toys . But because of the reboot I will
    go out of my way to not buy any ben 10 reboot toys just let it fail .

    I only watch their shows and play their games

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    @npzman I don't buy the toys either, but I don't buy them to make Ben 10 fail, but Cartoon Network wants to profit off of the franchise which sickenss me and wish Ben 10 would be bought by a different network. I want to see Ben 10 be something to be respected again and not seen as a abomination by people.

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    With me I just think another channel should get the rights to Ben 10 that is probably the only way to save the series also I think they should get rid of the gwevin pairing and forgot alien force and the other series and start off right after good bye and good riddance and have the main pairing be bwen

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    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

  • I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

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    @Oldtaku_dd said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

    This is the first reboot. The other shows were sequals.

  • I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

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    @Oldtaku_dd They are sequels not reboots, they weren't perfect, but they had the right idea in giving the series a story, this the first reboot, I'm okay with this new show, but I would've preferred Ben Tennyson as a teenager and Studio Trigger doing the animation and story, they need to do Ben 10 as a superhero, action, comedy, drama with elements of the original series and sequels.

  • Ben 10 Fans
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    Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

  • Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

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    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

  • Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

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    @npzman Petitions don't really work so you shouldn't bother with making one...or making any at all.

  • @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Ben 10 Fans
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    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

  • @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

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    @npzman Well sorry, but not going to happen and a petition is pretty much worthless.

  • @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

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    @npzman said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

    Omniverse already ended back in 2014...

  • Ben 10 Fans
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    why did CN aired the rest off the omniverse eps in 2014 everyday
    when it could of lasted until 2016

    Are they trying to get rid of it

  • why did CN aired the rest off the omniverse eps in 2014 everyday
    when it could of lasted until 2016

    Are they trying to get rid of it

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    @npzman Yes. Cartoon Network only cared about profiting off of toys and other merchandise, which was why many good shows, Sym-Bionic Titan, for example, were cancelled because they weren't selling enough toys. It's also the biggest reason as to why the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot were even made in the first place. The original PPG and the original Ben 10 sold a whole lot of toys and merchandise. So much that they were two of Cartoon Network's most financially successful shows.

    In regards to Omniverse, the show was barely selling any toys. In fact, Ben 10 toys and merchandise sales had been very poor since Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, which makes it even more questioning as to why Cartoon Network thinks they can pull off selling more toys and merchandise with the Ben 10 reboot if Ultimate Alien and Omniverse did so poorly in toy and merchandise sales. It didn't help either that Omniverse received negative backlash from much of the Ben 10 fanbase as well as also having low viewer ratings. Cartoon Network said that Omniverse was successful but basically it really wasn't because of what I just explained. Therefore, with very poor sales in merchandise and low viewer ratings, Cartoon Network decided to do what they did to many of their other shows that didn't sell toys well enough and they rushed out the remaining episodes of Omniverse and then cancelled it.

    So yes, Cartoon Network was trying to get rid of Ben 10 Omniverse and what I explained here is the reason why.

  • @npzman Yes. Cartoon Network only cared about profiting off of toys and other merchandise, which was why many good shows, Sym-Bionic Titan, for example, were cancelled because they weren't selling enough toys. It's also the biggest reason as to why the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot were even made in the first place. The original PPG and the original Ben 10 sold a whole lot of toys and merchandise. So much that they were two of Cartoon Network's most financially successful shows.

    In regards to Omniverse, the show was barely selling any toys. In fact, Ben 10 toys and merchandise sales had been very poor since Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, which makes it even more questioning as to why Cartoon Network thinks they can pull off selling more toys and merchandise with the Ben 10 reboot if Ultimate Alien and Omniverse did so poorly in toy and merchandise sales. It didn't help either that Omniverse received negative backlash from much of the Ben 10 fanbase as well as also having low viewer ratings. Cartoon Network said that Omniverse was successful but basically it really wasn't because of what I just explained. Therefore, with very poor sales in merchandise and low viewer ratings, Cartoon Network decided to do what they did to many of their other shows that didn't sell toys well enough and they rushed out the remaining episodes of Omniverse and then cancelled it.

    So yes, Cartoon Network was trying to get rid of Ben 10 Omniverse and what I explained here is the reason why.

    wrote on last edited by Rexfan1333
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    @Tactical-Ochoa and that is the reason they should lose the rights to the franchise, they will obviously never learn their lesson because they think kids these days are attracted to nothing but mindless comedies and simple designs with less detail. Reason why Ben 10 needs the Studio Trigger treatment.

  • Ben 10 Fans
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    A lot of people were watching the remaining ben 10 OV eps and they do reruns

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  • When did Ben 10 get bad?

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    @Ebomnitrix Dwayne McDuffie didn't create Ben 10. The Man of Action team did, McDuffie had a very different vision for Ben 10 and retconned a lot of things for AF/UA that Man of Action had previously established in OS. I absolutely love Dwayne's work on Statick Shock and Justice League Unlimited (JLU is my favorite cartoon ever actually), but as other people here have said, I would have preferred a Ben 10 sequel by the hands of the original creators. My answer to the question: I think there is a reason why the OS is the most popular series, and that reason is because from AF onwards a big part of the audience lost interest (I'm not talking about the hardcore fans here, I'm talking about casual friends that I know that stopped watching Ben 10 after the OS). AF storylines were amazing, but the new aliens were not as interesting as the Original Series' ones (with a few exceptions), there were a lot of retcons, and especially, the writers were in love with Kevin and made him the main star of the show, stealing the spotlight from Ben sometimes, and it didn't work out.
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    @Omni-Triforcer said in ben 10 toys: For the kids i want the omnitrix to come back since i know how much i wanted that damn toy when i was younger. I never bought Ben 10 toys and the only ben 10 merchandise i bought was the video games so hopefully they bring those back. Lol, same here. I always wonder how cool it was to have the Omnitrix als a toy. It looked so awesome when is was like 8 or 9. Ah Yeah those great child memerois
  • The Ben 10 Series

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    @chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important. Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that. That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network. As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.