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Is the mainstream ben 10 dead

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  • KorseBLI-NDK

    With me I just think another channel should get the rights to Ben 10 that is probably the only way to save the series also I think they should get rid of the gwevin pairing and forgot alien force and the other series and start off right after good bye and good riddance and have the main pairing be bwen

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  • Oldtaku_ddO

    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

    "Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened." -Dr. Seuss

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  • Oldtaku_ddO Oldtaku_dd

    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

    Ultimate OmniTriU

    @Oldtaku_dd said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

    This is the first reboot. The other shows were sequals.

    10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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  • Oldtaku_ddO Oldtaku_dd

    I'm shocked we got this many reboots in a row. Maybe its time to let Ben 10 rested fora few years before the next reboot.

    Rexfan1333R

    @Oldtaku_dd They are sequels not reboots, they weren't perfect, but they had the right idea in giving the series a story, this the first reboot, I'm okay with this new show, but I would've preferred Ben Tennyson as a teenager and Studio Trigger doing the animation and story, they need to do Ben 10 as a superhero, action, comedy, drama with elements of the original series and sequels.

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  • npzmanN

    Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

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  • npzmanN npzman

    Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

    Rexfan1333R

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

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  • npzmanN npzman

    Should I do a petition ?
    For CN to make a squeal?

    Tactical OchoaT

    @npzman Petitions don't really work so you shouldn't bother with making one...or making any at all.

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    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    npzmanN

    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

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  • npzmanN npzman

    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

    Rexfan1333R

    @npzman Well sorry, but not going to happen and a petition is pretty much worthless.

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  • npzmanN npzman

    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

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    @npzman said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @Rexfan1333 said in Is the mainstream ben 10 dead:

    @npzman even though I think a petition for a new Ben 10 series to be animated by Studio Trigger would be better, but I've heard they don't really work.

    Nope just a omiverse squeal and the reboot to canceled

    Omniverse already ended back in 2014...

    Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun

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  • npzmanN

    why did CN aired the rest off the omniverse eps in 2014 everyday
    when it could of lasted until 2016

    Are they trying to get rid of it

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  • npzmanN npzman

    why did CN aired the rest off the omniverse eps in 2014 everyday
    when it could of lasted until 2016

    Are they trying to get rid of it

    Tactical OchoaT

    @npzman Yes. Cartoon Network only cared about profiting off of toys and other merchandise, which was why many good shows, Sym-Bionic Titan, for example, were cancelled because they weren't selling enough toys. It's also the biggest reason as to why the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot were even made in the first place. The original PPG and the original Ben 10 sold a whole lot of toys and merchandise. So much that they were two of Cartoon Network's most financially successful shows.

    In regards to Omniverse, the show was barely selling any toys. In fact, Ben 10 toys and merchandise sales had been very poor since Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, which makes it even more questioning as to why Cartoon Network thinks they can pull off selling more toys and merchandise with the Ben 10 reboot if Ultimate Alien and Omniverse did so poorly in toy and merchandise sales. It didn't help either that Omniverse received negative backlash from much of the Ben 10 fanbase as well as also having low viewer ratings. Cartoon Network said that Omniverse was successful but basically it really wasn't because of what I just explained. Therefore, with very poor sales in merchandise and low viewer ratings, Cartoon Network decided to do what they did to many of their other shows that didn't sell toys well enough and they rushed out the remaining episodes of Omniverse and then cancelled it.

    So yes, Cartoon Network was trying to get rid of Ben 10 Omniverse and what I explained here is the reason why.

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  • Tactical OchoaT Tactical Ochoa

    @npzman Yes. Cartoon Network only cared about profiting off of toys and other merchandise, which was why many good shows, Sym-Bionic Titan, for example, were cancelled because they weren't selling enough toys. It's also the biggest reason as to why the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot were even made in the first place. The original PPG and the original Ben 10 sold a whole lot of toys and merchandise. So much that they were two of Cartoon Network's most financially successful shows.

    In regards to Omniverse, the show was barely selling any toys. In fact, Ben 10 toys and merchandise sales had been very poor since Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, which makes it even more questioning as to why Cartoon Network thinks they can pull off selling more toys and merchandise with the Ben 10 reboot if Ultimate Alien and Omniverse did so poorly in toy and merchandise sales. It didn't help either that Omniverse received negative backlash from much of the Ben 10 fanbase as well as also having low viewer ratings. Cartoon Network said that Omniverse was successful but basically it really wasn't because of what I just explained. Therefore, with very poor sales in merchandise and low viewer ratings, Cartoon Network decided to do what they did to many of their other shows that didn't sell toys well enough and they rushed out the remaining episodes of Omniverse and then cancelled it.

    So yes, Cartoon Network was trying to get rid of Ben 10 Omniverse and what I explained here is the reason why.

    Rexfan1333R

    @Tactical-Ochoa and that is the reason they should lose the rights to the franchise, they will obviously never learn their lesson because they think kids these days are attracted to nothing but mindless comedies and simple designs with less detail. Reason why Ben 10 needs the Studio Trigger treatment.

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  • npzmanN

    A lot of people were watching the remaining ben 10 OV eps and they do reruns

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  • npzmanN npzman

    A lot of people were watching the remaining ben 10 OV eps and they do reruns

    Rexfan1333R

    @npzman last time I've checked, they haven't reruned the series at all, they pretty much started showing commercials for the Up To Speed mobile game.

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  • npzmanN

    Do they have ads for it in the US and is the up to speed mobile app available there

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  • npzmanN npzman

    Do they have ads for it in the US and is the up to speed mobile app available there

    Rexfan1333R

    @npzman It's available now.

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  • npzmanN

    People had to ruin Ben 10 omniverse and the proposed sequal because they were not buying the toys

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  • npzmanN

    Ben Prime from the original continuity to appear in the Ben 10 Reboot

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    Why did I even say hyped at all When it's out I will watch it. If it ends up good then great I guess. It really gonna be my first time watching the reboot outside the first few episodes. If the execution of the original characters turns out to be terrible, well honestly I couldn't expect less from them.
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    When did Ben 10 get bad?

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    csgtC
    @Ebomnitrix Dwayne McDuffie didn't create Ben 10. The Man of Action team did, McDuffie had a very different vision for Ben 10 and retconned a lot of things for AF/UA that Man of Action had previously established in OS. I absolutely love Dwayne's work on Statick Shock and Justice League Unlimited (JLU is my favorite cartoon ever actually), but as other people here have said, I would have preferred a Ben 10 sequel by the hands of the original creators. My answer to the question: I think there is a reason why the OS is the most popular series, and that reason is because from AF onwards a big part of the audience lost interest (I'm not talking about the hardcore fans here, I'm talking about casual friends that I know that stopped watching Ben 10 after the OS). AF storylines were amazing, but the new aliens were not as interesting as the Original Series' ones (with a few exceptions), there were a lot of retcons, and especially, the writers were in love with Kevin and made him the main star of the show, stealing the spotlight from Ben sometimes, and it didn't work out.
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    The Ben 10 Series

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    Tactical OchoaT
    @chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important. Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that. That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network. As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.