Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2
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@tactical-ochoa Refresh your memory dude. If it isnt the original series you are talking about, its Hero Generation.
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@mortie-10 Again, I just stated that I did talk about Hero Generation plenty of times in the past. You are the one here that needs to refresh your memory because whenever I'm not talking about the Original Series, I talk about many other Ben 10 related things; not just Hero Generation. You should know that yourself given that you posted comments on articles that I made (such as the ones about Professor Paradox, Julie Yamamoto, etc.) that had no connections whatsoever to Hero Generation. Up to this point, I don't even talk about Hero Generation anymore. From what I recall, the last time I ever fully talked about Ben 10: Hero Generation was on August 24, 2016 when I posted this very article: https://ben10club.org/topic/171/my-predictions-on-ben-10-hero-generation/1
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More of the Alien world shorts
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http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Ben-10-2016-Season-2/Episode-25-Ben-Again-and-Again?id=84212
5 new episodes are now up on kimcartoon
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I have 2 theories...
1.) What if Glitch Ben is the new form for Upgrade, as in, when Ben selects Upgrade he then transforms into Glitch Ben every time.
2.) What if every alien in the Omnitrix are bad guys, I mean, Gax was a fraction of a villain and Shock Rock is gonna be the new villain for Season 3, so it'd make sense if all of his aliens were also villains.
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@jordancon2000 1.) That's an interesting theory, very likely if Ben doesn't get Upgrade back normally. I'd love to see what Ben as Galvanic Mechamorph hybrid can and can't do in more than one situation.
2.) I had that theory too. If it's true, not only was Vilgax accidentally right during "The 11th Alien" about the Omnitrix responsible for the world's possible destruction, but all of Ben's struggles and doubts about being a hero are gonna become so much bigger.
At least, we know for sure who Ghostfreak could be, and we can easily theorize who the other baddies could be (Malware for Upgrade, Viktor for Frankenstrike, Liam for Kickin' Hawk, Albedo for Grey Matter). Though it'd mean that there's at least one Arburian (Cannonbolt's species) that wasn't a pacifist and that, like Vilgax, became one of the first criminals of his planet. Creepy.
That also means that this entire time, Ben was turning into supervillains instead of a hero (which could explain why the Omnitrix gives him the alien he wants almost only when he causes mischief and mistransforms the other times when he really needs a specific one).
If Azmuth made the Omnitrix as a mobile prison for the villains of each planet, man, I think the reboot officially would've made the concept of the Omnitrix even darker than the Original, and that would be quite a feat.
It'd also make Ben, as the wielder of the Omnitrix, the only DNA sample that is an actual good guy -
Also, if that theory is true, Ben could possibly have Eon if he gets Chronian DNA (I know it's unlikely, but it'd be a sweet callback)
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John fang said that there is a good chance that we would see more classic aliens in the reboot.
Check it out here
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Say I wonder when they're aired the brand new Ben 10 Reboot season 2 episode "Dreamtime"? Love to see it.
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Shock Rock alien world short CN Italy dub
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amazing! (we gonna have to wait english dub tho or until someone who knows Italian accepts to translate this tho)
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I haven't watched the reboot since the beginning of season 2 (to be honest I lost interest in it) but I'm surprised that Ben has gotten no new aliens (yet) since Shock Rock. Apparently, 75 episodes of the reboot have aired worldwide and we've only gotten 2 new aliens. Not to mention that Ben lost Upgrade and Gax so we're still at 10 aliens 75 episodes in.
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tell me about it, at least the "he's now Ben 11" joke works even less than it did (#bringGaxandUpgradeback2k18)
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@cooljay7 ben will be getting new aliens in season 3 but we will also be losing some aliens from his current line up. Also did you guys see this?
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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Ben: is up against all these dangers, potentially losing aliens he might really need and going through a lot of emotional pain and suffering
Me:
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@ultimate-omnitri Yeah I saw that it seems interesting. It may actually get me to start to watch the reboot again.
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@ultimate-omnitri Oh yeah, sure, considering how they handled the rest of the reboot and their lack of an understanding on what made Ben 10 so great in the first place, this is really going to go so well for them. This sounds like such a brilliant idea and direction to go. (sarcasm)
"the Omnitrix is now a gateway through to where an evil alien empire will invade Earth"
Wow. What a way to make the Omnitrix seem less like, well, the Omnitrix. -
To be fair, the sequels weren't far from changing the Omnitrix's concept either: DAA has Ben go inside replicas of the aliens' planets, UA had Ben go inside the Omnitrix because a glitch made Ben's Ultimates become alive, Alien Swarm even had Ben's DNA thrown into the mix to unlock Nanomech.
Not to mention how OV's Omnitrix works with the digital scroll or the security system that requires Ben giving away personal information if his biometric data changes when it worked just fine in OS. Or that apparently, the "turn-into-an-alien-randomly-every-20-seconds" thing the OS Trix had as a glitch is now a function available in the watch as a "randomizer".
Honestly, each series had their own take on how the watch is, even Master Control started becoming inconsistent during UAF.Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else
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@ungrateful-wolf Your examples aren't examples of deliberate changes to what the Omnitrix is. Most of your examples are gimmicks with some of them being a one-time-only thing and some of them not even making any sense. They didn't change what the Omnitrix and its main purpose and function was. Yes, the Master Control became inconsistent during UAF. That was due to the writers having little understanding of the lore and continuity that the Original Series set up. From what I can recall, none of the sequel shows ever went to the extent of making the Omnitrix a "gateway to an evil empire" or something of the likes. The sequel shows certainly screwed up a lot with how they handled the Omnitrix but from what I recall, they never went that far out of left field.
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@tactical-ochoa said in Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2:
"the Omnitrix is now a gateway through to where an evil alien empire will invade Earth"
Wow. What a way to make the Omnitrix seem less like, well, the Omnitrix.I'm pretty sure that this isn't a permanent change, just a one-time-only thing too. "The Omnitrix is now a gateway" I mean, you could say about Secret of the Omnitrix, "The Omnitrix is now a time bomb that can destroy the entire universe"
My bet is that by the end of the season finale the Omnitrix will be fully back to normal, and maybe without the Omni-Enhanced aliens (if I'm correct, I won't miss them)
