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    Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

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    • Ungrateful-Wolf
      Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

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      • Ungrateful-Wolf
        Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

        Apparently, Hero Generations was never even a thing. Maybe it was Alien Force's working title, but Toonzone gave that title way back in 2007.
        The CN Upfront about it?
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        "another series in which Ben recruits other children to help him." Toonzone apparently misinterpreted it as Ben recruiting children to teach them to be heroes instead of what would be the Amalgam Kids and gave the audience expectations that were largely different from what Alien Force ended up being.
        I don't even think MoA planned for a sequel considering they weren't involved in any of them. The "Hero Generations" thing was from Toonzone, but neither MoA nor CN ever talked about it or called it like that. We just had different expectations of what Alien Force was going to be

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        • Tactical Ochoa
          Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by Tactical Ochoa

          @ungrateful-wolf This does sound a lot like speculation though. This Tumblr user doesn't really provide sufficient evidence to back her claim up. No articles, no interviews, etc. Just speculation. Yes, she does say that there's no other records on the internet but still. The best way to confirm whether she's right or not is to ask Man of Action themselves. In fact, I remember when Joe Kelly had an AMA on Reddit a couple of years ago, I asked him what Ben 10: Hero Generation would've been like and he said that he had to go back to his office to find it and dig it back out so that he could answer that. Of course, he never jumped back on to answer my question but if we were to take his word for granted here, Man of Action does have Ben 10: Hero Generation in their records. There was also that time when Duncan Rouleau stated on Tumblr that Man of Action did plan on making Kevin and Charmcaster anti-heroes, which they could only really do...through a sequel.

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          • Tactical Ochoa
            Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by Tactical Ochoa

            @ungrateful-wolf Or I guess this Tumblr user is actually right.
            https://twitter.com/Gabrielzm122/status/1002228303757914113

            Even though I stated that the best way to confirm whether this Tumblr user is right or not is to ask Man of Action themselves, at the same time, I find it weird that after over a decade of knowing that Ben 10: Hero Generation was Man of Action's sequel to the Original Series, this revelation comes out now? I'm still skeptical about what Man of Action said to that one Ben 10 Club user a while back during SDCC over how Ben and Gwen were actually originally supposed to be siblings instead of friends even though there are plenty of factors that contradicts that.

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              NEVERAGAIN @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

              @tactical-ochoa Hah! So your stupid Hero Generation thing was never a thing anyway. Im so happy.

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              • Tactical Ochoa
                Tactical Ochoa @NEVERAGAIN last edited by

                @mortie-10 It was never even my thing to begin with. Everyone believed that Ben 10: Hero Generation was Man of Action's sequel to the Original Series well well before I showed up on here. I'm pretty sure that even includes you.

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                  NEVERAGAIN @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                  @tactical-ochoa Yeah, but you have been hyped about it from the start.

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                    Tactical Ochoa @NEVERAGAIN last edited by

                    @mortie-10 No I wasn't. I talked about it plenty of times in the past and I wanted to learn more about it but I wasn't hyped about it.

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                      NEVERAGAIN @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                      @tactical-ochoa Refresh your memory dude. If it isnt the original series you are talking about, its Hero Generation.

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                      • Tactical Ochoa
                        Tactical Ochoa @NEVERAGAIN last edited by

                        @mortie-10 Again, I just stated that I did talk about Hero Generation plenty of times in the past. You are the one here that needs to refresh your memory because whenever I'm not talking about the Original Series, I talk about many other Ben 10 related things; not just Hero Generation. You should know that yourself given that you posted comments on articles that I made (such as the ones about Professor Paradox, Julie Yamamoto, etc.) that had no connections whatsoever to Hero Generation. Up to this point, I don't even talk about Hero Generation anymore. From what I recall, the last time I ever fully talked about Ben 10: Hero Generation was on August 24, 2016 when I posted this very article: https://ben10club.org/topic/171/my-predictions-on-ben-10-hero-generation/1

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                        • james
                          james Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                          More of the Alien world shorts
                          https://youtu.be/jK1G0OgKM8k

                          ''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
                          ''You Get An Upgrade''

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                          • james
                            james Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                            http://kimcartoon.me/Cartoon/Ben-10-2016-Season-2/Episode-25-Ben-Again-and-Again?id=84212

                            5 new episodes are now up on kimcartoon

                            ''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
                            ''You Get An Upgrade''

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                              jordancon2000 last edited by

                              I have 2 theories...

                              1.) What if Glitch Ben is the new form for Upgrade, as in, when Ben selects Upgrade he then transforms into Glitch Ben every time.

                              2.) What if every alien in the Omnitrix are bad guys, I mean, Gax was a fraction of a villain and Shock Rock is gonna be the new villain for Season 3, so it'd make sense if all of his aliens were also villains.

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                                Ungrateful-Wolf @jordancon2000 last edited by

                                @jordancon2000 1.) That's an interesting theory, very likely if Ben doesn't get Upgrade back normally. I'd love to see what Ben as Galvanic Mechamorph hybrid can and can't do in more than one situation.
                                2.) I had that theory too. If it's true, not only was Vilgax accidentally right during "The 11th Alien" about the Omnitrix responsible for the world's possible destruction, but all of Ben's struggles and doubts about being a hero are gonna become so much bigger.
                                At least, we know for sure who Ghostfreak could be, and we can easily theorize who the other baddies could be (Malware for Upgrade, Viktor for Frankenstrike, Liam for Kickin' Hawk, Albedo for Grey Matter). Though it'd mean that there's at least one Arburian (Cannonbolt's species) that wasn't a pacifist and that, like Vilgax, became one of the first criminals of his planet. Creepy.
                                That also means that this entire time, Ben was turning into supervillains instead of a hero (which could explain why the Omnitrix gives him the alien he wants almost only when he causes mischief and mistransforms the other times when he really needs a specific one).
                                If Azmuth made the Omnitrix as a mobile prison for the villains of each planet, man, I think the reboot officially would've made the concept of the Omnitrix even darker than the Original, and that would be quite a feat.
                                It'd also make Ben, as the wielder of the Omnitrix, the only DNA sample that is an actual good guy

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                                • Ungrateful-Wolf
                                  Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                                  Also, if that theory is true, Ben could possibly have Eon if he gets Chronian DNA (I know it's unlikely, but it'd be a sweet callback)

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                                  • james
                                    james Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                    John fang said that there is a good chance that we would see more classic aliens in the reboot.
                                    Check it out here
                                    https://youtu.be/B3A3b5k3uvU

                                    ''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
                                    ''You Get An Upgrade''

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                                    • jondennison72
                                      jondennison72 Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                      Say I wonder when they're aired the brand new Ben 10 Reboot season 2 episode "Dreamtime"? Love to see it.

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                                      • james
                                        james Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                        Shock Rock alien world short CN Italy dub
                                        https://youtu.be/oiUbw6QBznw

                                        ''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
                                        ''You Get An Upgrade''

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                                        • Ungrateful-Wolf
                                          Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                                          amazing! (we gonna have to wait english dub tho or until someone who knows Italian accepts to translate this tho)

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                                          • cooljay7
                                            cooljay7 last edited by

                                            I haven't watched the reboot since the beginning of season 2 (to be honest I lost interest in it) but I'm surprised that Ben has gotten no new aliens (yet) since Shock Rock. Apparently, 75 episodes of the reboot have aired worldwide and we've only gotten 2 new aliens. Not to mention that Ben lost Upgrade and Gax so we're still at 10 aliens 75 episodes in.

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