Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions

[Ebomnitrix]

Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

[Ultimate OmniTri]

@Ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

Yes, The season finale will be the end of the 1st season. Shocking right?

[Tactical Ochoa]

@Omni-Triforcer Lol.

[npzman]

It should be series finale.

[Ebomnitrix]

We get it, you don't like the reboot. Can we move on from that now?

[npzman]

Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

[Spookyohno]

@npzman Not really considering the original came out over 10 years ago. But I suppose it's a matter of perspective and personal opinion whether or not it's too soon.

[Ultimate OmniTri]

@npzman said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

Ha. Apparently you havent heard of a little something called Spider-man whos movies have been rebooted 3 times in the past 10 years. Oh and Teenage mutant ninja turtles who frequently get rebooted. So no its not to soon for it to get rebooted.

[JrPhilgene]

A reboot was the only sensible choice if they continued the series after omniverse fans would eventually get fed up.plus with all the changes that were made to the ben10 timeline over the years the plot would be all over the place anyway

[GoodVibes1999]

Sorry for changing the subject entirely, but am I the only one who thinks that reboot Vilgax will be a composite character (read about it on TV Tropes) of himself and Khyber? And what are the chances that Kevin and Charmcaster will also be composite characters of themselves and other villains? I bet Kevin would be one of himself and Albedo.

[JrPhilgene]

@GoodVibes1999 i ddon't think albedo would work well with kevin

[csgt]

@GoodVibes1999 I actually think Albedo was created to replace Kevin as "Evil Ben" after AF writers decided to make Kevin the hero of the show.

Is Kevin confirmed to appear in the reboot? I think he is kind of a "toxic" character to use now. Obviously, MOA originally intended him to be a villain (The OS episode "Ken 10" is proof that MOA never wanted to redeem Kevin), but now it would be hard to write him the way they want without getting backlash from a lot of AF/UA/OV fans, so maybe they will simple ignore him instead - Or not, since they are already getting backlash from fans anyway xD

[Por falar nisso, você sabe se já começou a passar aqui no Brasil?]

[Ultimate OmniTri]

@csgt said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

@GoodVibes1999 I actually think Albedo was created to replace Kevin as "Evil Ben" after AF writers decided to make Kevin the hero of the show.

Is Kevin confirmed to appear in the reboot? I think he is kind of a "toxic" character to use now. Obviously, MOA originally intended him to be a villain (The OS episode "Ken 10" is proof that MOA never wanted to redeem Kevin), but now it would be hard to write him the way they want without getting backlash from a lot of AF/UA/OV fans, so maybe they will simple ignore him instead - Or not, since they are already getting backlash from fans anyway xD

[Por falar nisso, você sabe se já começou a passar aqui no Brasil?]

MOA confirmed that kevin was always supposed to be redeemed.

[Tactical Ochoa]

Speaking of Kevin and composite characters, if you read up about the reboot Frightwig on TvTropes, it explains that she's a composite character. Frightwig displays characteristics of being mischievous like Ben but in a more villainous way as well as TvTropes pulling out parallels with Frightwig's hair and Ben's Omnitrix. Basically, TvTropes compares Frightwig to Kevin, saying how she has similar personalities to Ben but darker much like Kevin did in the Original Series, thus acting as Ben's evil counterpart. I guess I kind of see that in her. So for anyone that thinks that Frightwig is more interesting, this is why. I guess the reboot Frightwig is the new Kevin here. Maybe. However, this created a big concern for me.

IF this really is how they're portraying Frightwig in the Ben 10 reboot, then what does that mean for Kevin? Is he going to make an appearance? If so, how is he going to be portrayed? What makes Kevin at his best is him being that very true evil counterpart to Ben and as I explained many times in the past, Kevin doesn't work well outside of that. To me, it feels like they dug themselves into a corner with these characters.

If they bring back Kevin and make him like he was in the Original Series, then the changes they made to Frightwig in the reboot are pretty much pointless. Instead of taking Frightwig and changing her, they could've just bring back Kevin instead. If they bring back Kevin and they change him to be different from his Original Series self, then that would undermine Kevin as a character and his purpose as a villain. If they decide not to bring Kevin back, then they lose one of the most significant and necessary villains in the franchise and the reboot will get hit hard for that. At least that's my take on it.

@Omni-Triforcer Duncan Rouleau confirmed that Kevin was supposed to be an anti-hero. Even then, if they stuck to the Ben 10,000 future shown in the Original Series, then that would mean that eventually Kevin would end up going back to his old ways and being a villain again.

[GoodVibes1999]

I actually just used Albedo as an example because he was the only villain I remembered in the moment. Since Frightwig in the reboot is a composite character of herself and Kevin (according to TV Tropes), I am pretty sure he is going to appear but in a different way.

[Ebomnitrix]

Actually not just Kevin @Tactical-Ochoa but Charmcaster too, but that was planned for "Hero Generations" when those two were meant to be anti-heroes, but instead it was ignored along with other ideas so idk?

[Tactical Ochoa]

@Ebomnitrix Yeah, I know. I'm the one that made the topic page where I give my thoughts and arguments on that.
https://ben10club.org/topic/160/kevin-and-charmcaster-s-actual-character-development

[npzman]

I have a feeling that the 6th series of Ben 10 will be a sequal to the reboot. That will be hero generations Charmcaster will replace ben.

[Ultimate OmniTri]

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[Ultimate OmniTri]

@npzman said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

I have a feeling that the 6th series of Ben 10 will be a sequal to the reboot. That will be hero generations Charmcaster will replace ben.

Um what do you mean charmcaster will replace ben? Hes the star of the show lol