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Kevin and Charmcaster's Actual Character Development

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  • So I was on the Ben 10 Planet wiki a little while ago and came across one topic discussion on the Forums that has this link here. Someone asked Duncan Rouleau from MOA if Kevin and Charmcaster were supposed to either stay as villains or be anti-heroes. Duncan Rouleau answered saying that Kevin and Charmcaster were always meant to be anti-hero foils to Ben and Gwen, highlighting more personal aspects of conflict inside their emotional journeys that were more peer related and not in an adult vs. child structure. So according to Rouleau, Man of Action always intended for Kevin and Charmcaster to fit into a more anti-hero role in the Ben 10 series. Here is the link to the Tumblr post.

    My take on this is that I pretty much have to disagree in regards to Kevin. Based on everything that I discussed about him, having a more heroic role for Kevin just doesn't fit and suit him well. He's a thug that only cares about himself and is willing to do anything to get what he wants. In the episode "Kevin 11" in the Original Series, Kevin (who was at the age of 11) was so willing to have hundreds of people die just for some cash. Just because he was greedy. Let's also not forget to mention this very page that I made a while back discussing Kevin's poor sense of judgement as a result of the amount of damage that was caused to his brain as a result of having absorbed so much energy from the Omnitrix and other energy sources. Even if Kevin does transition into a more anti-hero role, considering the "Ken 10" episode in the Original Series, it doesn't look as if that type of role would end up working well for Kevin in the end and he'll eventually just end up going back to his old ways soon after.

    Charmcaster on the other hand, I can definitely see her being able to turn her life around and for the better. In the Original Series, Charmcaster felt more like a victim that was corrupted by such an evil and abusive individual. There were moments where she does care about others and hasn't done anything as horrible as what Kevin tried to do in the Original Series. Hex just ends up keeping her in chains. Using her as a pawn for his own evil plans. If anyone has watched or read "The Killing Joke" Batman comic/film, there is a saying from the Joker of how it could take one bad day to make the sanest person go insane. In the case with Charmcaster, it looks as if all she needs is one good day in order for her to be able to turn her life around. I can also definitely see her reaching a breaking point where Charmcaster would eventually have enough of Hex's bullshit and finally decide to fight back and give Hex a taste of his own medicine. So yeah, I can definitely see Charmcaster being able to fit into the role of an anti-hero in the Ben 10 series.

    Going back to Kevin, I can see how this could contribute to the series in regards to the story and Ben and Gwen as characters. Regardless of how great Vilgax is as a villain, at least in my opinion, he doesn't have as much significance and potential as a villain in the series as Kevin does. Vilgax doesn't even seem to be the type of villain that would hang around in the series for long. Hell, Ben was even supposed to kill Vilgax in the series and no longer was supposed to encounter him again until the events of the episode "Ben 10,000." Vilgax just has a mere grudge towards Ben and his grandfather, Max. Vilgax just hates them. Kevin, however, has a more personal connection to Ben than Vilgax. Kevin wants revenge on Ben. Kevin's conflict towards Ben is a vendetta. Kevin wants payback for Ben having defeated him numerous times. With Kevin having a more personal and significant connection to Ben than Vilgax does, I can see much greater and more significant potential for Kevin as a villain in the series to the point where I think Kevin is the actual true main villain in the Ben 10 series.

    With that in mind, I can see how Vilgax's death is the reason for Ben wanting to take the Omnitrix off in the first place (if MOA were to maintain that plot point in Hero Generation) while Kevin transitioning to a more anti-hero role only to later return back to his old ways and re-spark his conflict and vendetta towards Ben and thus the resulting outcome of this ending tragically for Ben and Gwen and acting as the final breaking point at which Ben transitions into Ben 10,000. That's at least how I can and would see this direction of Kevin being an anti-hero going for the Ben 10 series. That this is what I consider to be the best direction for Kevin transitioning into an anti-hero that would work best for the series.

  • Well, I think you're right about Charmcaster. And you're right about Kevin too, even though I would like to see him as a good guy again. I really can't wait to see the reboot! I think most villains in the reboot will be either "beware the silly ones" or "slightly comedic but still very dangerous".

  • with me goodvibes1 I did not like him as a good guy to me he should of stayed a villain plus also the whole thing where gwen falls in love with kevin was to me a stupid idea plus if I was ben I would of put two rounds in his head and two in the heart and than I would cut up the body to make sure he stays dead by putting each piece in a cement block and dump this into a lake or the ocean

  • I'm slightly surprised that they didn't have Charmcaster and Kevin work together to fight Ben and Gwen, that would have been cool to see.

  • ah yeah that would of been interesting also if I was ben I would try to find a way to make carbonite and use that on kevin and charmcaster instead of putting them In the nullvoid or if he does put them in the nullvoid have them in carbonite so they cant do anything

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  • Professor Paradox's Potential

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    @car54 Nice little nods to fan writers could work. And no, which is why I still prefer to make a new reboot that acts as a new sequel to the Original Series, ignoring Alien Force onwards and focusing on a different direction. I don't mind reusing certain elements of the sequel shows for a sequel reboot just as long as they're the good elements and they work well for it. After all, that's what shadows59 did with Little Moments and Breaking Point. Still, it really would be better to ignore Alien Force, Ultimate Alien, Omniverse, and the current 2016 CN reboot and make a new sequel that fulfills the very potential that the franchise still has. Disney ignored the Star Wars Expanded Universe and despite the backlash they got, their Star Wars films are still doing really well. Granted though, Disney and Star Wars is in quite a snag considering The Last Jedi and EA's Star Wars Battlefront 2. James Cameron and Deadpool director, Tim Miller, are currently making a new Terminator film that ignores Terminator 3, Salvation, and Genysis and is acting as a new sequel to Terminator 2 with Arnold Schwarzenegger coming back (of course) and the original Sarah Connor actress, Linda Hamilton, coming back to reprise her iconic and famous role. Making a sequel reboot can be an ideal direction to go and I say that it's the best direction that can be taken for the Ben 10 franchise.
  • Who is Kevin really?

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    @csgt they kinda did Man Of Action did say that each Ben10 series was a reboot
  • Ben 10 and Spider-Man main character comparisons analysis

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    I would add that Gwen also share similarities with another Peter Parker love interest: Felicia Hardy, a.k.a. the Black Cat. Both are "cat-themed", (Gwen wears a shirt with a cat logo in Original Series) and the first time Lucky Girl appears she has luck-based powers, just like Black Cat, and their costumes are very similar (black, cat mask). So, Gwen Tennyson is like a mix of Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson and Felicia Hardy.
  • Effects of Kevin Absorbing Energy from the Omnitrix

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    @Tactical-Ochoa said: @Rexfan1333 It would have to depend on how they design Kevin in the Ben 10 reboot. If they pretty much do what they did before with Kevin in the Original Series, which I believe is going to happen, then it would be best to keep Kevin as a villain to avoid causing inconsistencies and discrepancies with Kevin as a character. Yea he would be look like a villain