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  • I'm pretty sure it's going to be some sort of game, considering Gwen is also wearing a headband.

  • I like to see new sneek peak clip of a new Ben 10 episode "Max to the Max" soon

  • I have just seen the reboot powerpuff girls today for the 1st time ever and actally it's better than the other reboot including ben 10 reboot. I like the new opening just as much as the old one. However they should change the characters desgins a bit to make them resemble more like the old one.

    Still I am not a fan of reboots

  • I'm pretty sure it's going to be some sort of game, considering Gwen is also wearing a headband.

    @Spookyohno That's what I was thinking as well.

  • Someone replied Saturday a "Negative" reaction on the Ben 10 Reboot on the Man Of action's Facebook page. And Man Of Action just liked that reaction. I was like Wow even They don't like the Ben 10 Reboot. And if you want to check it out here below is the link to it.

  • Even they know it

    @Ben-10-Fan said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

    Someone replied Saturday a "Negative" reaction on the Ben 10 Reboot on the Man Of action's Facebook page. And Man Of Action just liked that reaction. I was like Wow even They don't like the Ben 10 Reboot. And if you want to check it out here below is the link to it.

  • Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

  • Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

    @Ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

    Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

    Yes, The season finale will be the end of the 1st season. Shocking right?

  • @Ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

    Any announcements about what's happening with the season finale yet?

    Yes, The season finale will be the end of the 1st season. Shocking right?

    @Omni-Triforcer Lol.

  • It should be series finale.

  • We get it, you don't like the reboot. Can we move on from that now?

  • Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

  • Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

    @npzman Not really considering the original came out over 10 years ago. But I suppose it's a matter of perspective and personal opinion whether or not it's too soon.

  • Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

    @npzman said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

    Well don't you also think it is actually even too soon to reboot the series ?

    Ha. Apparently you havent heard of a little something called Spider-man whos movies have been rebooted 3 times in the past 10 years. Oh and Teenage mutant ninja turtles who frequently get rebooted. So no its not to soon for it to get rebooted.

  • A reboot was the only sensible choice if they continued the series after omniverse fans would eventually get fed up.plus with all the changes that were made to the ben10 timeline over the years the plot would be all over the place anyway

  • Sorry for changing the subject entirely, but am I the only one who thinks that reboot Vilgax will be a composite character (read about it on TV Tropes) of himself and Khyber? And what are the chances that Kevin and Charmcaster will also be composite characters of themselves and other villains? I bet Kevin would be one of himself and Albedo.

  • Sorry for changing the subject entirely, but am I the only one who thinks that reboot Vilgax will be a composite character (read about it on TV Tropes) of himself and Khyber? And what are the chances that Kevin and Charmcaster will also be composite characters of themselves and other villains? I bet Kevin would be one of himself and Albedo.

    @GoodVibes1999 i ddon't think albedo would work well with kevin

  • Sorry for changing the subject entirely, but am I the only one who thinks that reboot Vilgax will be a composite character (read about it on TV Tropes) of himself and Khyber? And what are the chances that Kevin and Charmcaster will also be composite characters of themselves and other villains? I bet Kevin would be one of himself and Albedo.

    @GoodVibes1999 I actually think Albedo was created to replace Kevin as "Evil Ben" after AF writers decided to make Kevin the hero of the show.

    Is Kevin confirmed to appear in the reboot? I think he is kind of a "toxic" character to use now. Obviously, MOA originally intended him to be a villain (The OS episode "Ken 10" is proof that MOA never wanted to redeem Kevin), but now it would be hard to write him the way they want without getting backlash from a lot of AF/UA/OV fans, so maybe they will simple ignore him instead - Or not, since they are already getting backlash from fans anyway xD

    [Por falar nisso, você sabe se já começou a passar aqui no Brasil?]

  • @GoodVibes1999 I actually think Albedo was created to replace Kevin as "Evil Ben" after AF writers decided to make Kevin the hero of the show.

    Is Kevin confirmed to appear in the reboot? I think he is kind of a "toxic" character to use now. Obviously, MOA originally intended him to be a villain (The OS episode "Ken 10" is proof that MOA never wanted to redeem Kevin), but now it would be hard to write him the way they want without getting backlash from a lot of AF/UA/OV fans, so maybe they will simple ignore him instead - Or not, since they are already getting backlash from fans anyway xD

    [Por falar nisso, você sabe se já começou a passar aqui no Brasil?]

    @csgt said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

    @GoodVibes1999 I actually think Albedo was created to replace Kevin as "Evil Ben" after AF writers decided to make Kevin the hero of the show.

    Is Kevin confirmed to appear in the reboot? I think he is kind of a "toxic" character to use now. Obviously, MOA originally intended him to be a villain (The OS episode "Ken 10" is proof that MOA never wanted to redeem Kevin), but now it would be hard to write him the way they want without getting backlash from a lot of AF/UA/OV fans, so maybe they will simple ignore him instead - Or not, since they are already getting backlash from fans anyway xD

    [Por falar nisso, você sabe se já começou a passar aqui no Brasil?]

    MOA confirmed that kevin was always supposed to be redeemed.

  • Speaking of Kevin and composite characters, if you read up about the reboot Frightwig on TvTropes, it explains that she's a composite character. Frightwig displays characteristics of being mischievous like Ben but in a more villainous way as well as TvTropes pulling out parallels with Frightwig's hair and Ben's Omnitrix. Basically, TvTropes compares Frightwig to Kevin, saying how she has similar personalities to Ben but darker much like Kevin did in the Original Series, thus acting as Ben's evil counterpart. I guess I kind of see that in her. So for anyone that thinks that Frightwig is more interesting, this is why. I guess the reboot Frightwig is the new Kevin here. Maybe. However, this created a big concern for me.

    IF this really is how they're portraying Frightwig in the Ben 10 reboot, then what does that mean for Kevin? Is he going to make an appearance? If so, how is he going to be portrayed? What makes Kevin at his best is him being that very true evil counterpart to Ben and as I explained many times in the past, Kevin doesn't work well outside of that. To me, it feels like they dug themselves into a corner with these characters.

    If they bring back Kevin and make him like he was in the Original Series, then the changes they made to Frightwig in the reboot are pretty much pointless. Instead of taking Frightwig and changing her, they could've just bring back Kevin instead. If they bring back Kevin and they change him to be different from his Original Series self, then that would undermine Kevin as a character and his purpose as a villain. If they decide not to bring Kevin back, then they lose one of the most significant and necessary villains in the franchise and the reboot will get hit hard for that. At least that's my take on it.

    @Omni-Triforcer Duncan Rouleau confirmed that Kevin was supposed to be an anti-hero. Even then, if they stuck to the Ben 10,000 future shown in the Original Series, then that would mean that eventually Kevin would end up going back to his old ways and being a villain again.

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    There are some issues people aren't realizing though, most people want to watch shows online, not just for free and to avoid ads, but to just watch everything faster and avoid all the crappy shows the network has to offer. Cartoon Network barely makes a million views now because they're focusing on a streaming service that nobody is going to use. Boomerang will be a shock if there is enough people touching it but overall CN is going to screw themselves over if they focus more on the business and not the channel itself, which they haven't been doing since 2015. They maybe thinking TTG is going to lead them to success but they're wrong if they think only airing a handful of all the shows you're making right now is going to do anything, if you have 20 shows and only air 5 and a movie we've already seen a million times, its not going to do enough for the network to last much longer, take a look at what happened to Nickelodeon, they've been losing money to the point where they lost the amusement park, and I doubt anybody really watches the award shows anymore. And another thing to mention, the only way to get ratings is a Nielsen box or to have Xfinity, they won't count the ratings any other cable providers offers so the ratings wouldn't do much since it only goes to those people. Now for what reason I don't know, but since a lot less people either don't have those boxes and prefer watching shows online, even on properties like KissCartoon/KissAsian, WatchCartoonsOnline, Animeflavor, Gogoanime, you name it, and its a long list.
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  • Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2

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    @Ebomnitrix And there's your episodes folks. I'm going to make a part 3 to Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot. Part 2 is already going on for long enough now and I plan on having part 3 be made specifically to discuss and comment on the episodes of the Ben 10 reboot. Here is the link to part 3. http://ben10club.org/topic/181/addressing-the-ben-10-reboot-part-3