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Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot

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  • Tell cn that they think all kids want is comedy and when i was a kid while i did like comedy i also wanted action i dont see how kids could change that much.

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    @Omni-Triforcer Well, there's another set of argument points that were discussed. I swear, every time I ever think that I've discussed everything that I wanted and needed to discuss about this reboot and the Ben 10 series, more discussion and argument points end up popping up later on that needed to be covered. Always makes me chuckle.

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    I think they did shorter episodes because the attention span of kids is the same level as the amount that cn cares about the actual concept, they are both very very very very very small

  • I think they did shorter episodes because the attention span of kids is the same level as the amount that cn cares about the actual concept, they are both very very very very very small

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    @chronosapien234 Ha, oh please, kids have a much much better attention span than that. That is just what Cartoon Network thinks. Or at the very least that's what Cartoon Network wants their audience to think.

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    confirmed paul eiding not voicing grandpa max in the reboot. https://twitter.com/4pauleiding/status/681172960325926912

  • confirmed paul eiding not voicing grandpa max in the reboot. https://twitter.com/4pauleiding/status/681172960325926912

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    @Omni-Triforcer And this sums up my reaction to it.

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    Man of action says they are very involved in the reboot. My Faith is restored in it. https://twitter.com/rouleau1/status/681740188733706240

  • Man of action says they are very involved in the reboot. My Faith is restored in it. https://twitter.com/rouleau1/status/681740188733706240

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    @Omni-Triforcer That's good and does give me some faith but I'd say that's not enough yet. There's still too much that's working against the reboot. I covered every single side and angle there is at the moment. This reboot is still being run by Cartoon Network. This reboot is still not the Ben 10 show that Man of Action truly wants to make. Man of Action still doesn't have full creative control and freedom here. There's a difference between making a show that you are told to make and likely don't even want to make at all and making a show that you really truly want to make. For me, I don't want Man of Action to just be writing and editing the show. I want Man of Action to be the ones actually making the show. To be the ones that are actually writing, designing, and structuring the show in the very way that they envisioned it; not just writing and editing it in the way that Cartoon Network wants it to be made. Those are just my thoughts on it.

    It's pretty much just ghost writing at this point. Cartoon Network are still the ones that are actually making the show. Man of Action is just doing what Cartoon Network is telling them to do.

    I'm also including the page about Paul Eiding not voicing Max onto this page because I want to include my thoughts on that as part of my arguments and criticisms on the Ben 10 reboot.

    http://ben10club.org/topic/33/paul-eiding-isn-t-going-to-voice-max-tennyson-are-you-freakin-kidding-me/2

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    fair enough.

  • fair enough.

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    @Omni-Triforcer Yeah. I don't like it myself though but it is something that, I think to me, has to be mentioned. Not everything is what it seems. It's always best to cover every side and angle and figure out what's really going on. Regardless of whether or not it's good.

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    New artwork of ben and diamondhead what do you think? https://www.instagram.com/p/_66z-PJZjX/

  • New artwork of ben and diamondhead what do you think? https://www.instagram.com/p/_66z-PJZjX/

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    @Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I just saw it myself. Diamondhead doesn't look that bad but he doesn't look good either. I agree with ZeVikingSif on the Ben 10 Wiki. The gold really does look stupid and doesn't even make sense. The Omnitrix is supposed to shape Ben's clothes to fit and suit his aliens so where did the gold even come from. It should be green instead. As I stated before, Cartoon Network doesn't even understand what made this series truly great. They can't even get the little things right such as how the Omnitrix is really supposed to function. Diamondhead seems to have more of an appearance to Omniverse in my opinion. Again, doesn't look bad but it's not good either.

    As for Ben, if anyone here thought his reboot design looked bad enough, he looks even worse here. Yeah, this reboot really is becoming more like Teen Titans Go. If I even have any faith left in this reboot, I lost even more of it.

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    i mean its not that the gold looks bad its that it just doesn't make sense. Although i wouldn't blame cn for this as someone stated on the wiki they arnt the ones that design the aliens.
    Im just wondering if theres more artwork inside the calender if so i want to see if someone who has the calendar can take a pic of it.

  • i mean its not that the gold looks bad its that it just doesn't make sense. Although i wouldn't blame cn for this as someone stated on the wiki they arnt the ones that design the aliens.
    Im just wondering if theres more artwork inside the calender if so i want to see if someone who has the calendar can take a pic of it.

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    @Omni-Triforcer Hopefully. Also, I mentioned on the Ben 10 Wiki how it's like what Brandon Storm9 stated about ghost writing with Man of Action on this reboot. To me, I see this as ghost designing.

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    yeah i saw that i also mentioned on the wiki how the gold could be a mistake and its actually supposed to be green who knows.

  • yeah i saw that i also mentioned on the wiki how the gold could be a mistake and its actually supposed to be green who knows.

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    @Omni-Triforcer I hope it gets better but considering how Cartoon Network is, I doubt it.

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    someone pointed out on the ben 10 englishboard forums that in af/ua the omnitrix/ultimatrix didnt adapt clothing to the aliens so maybe they took that function out of the omnitrix its a possibilitiy.

  • someone pointed out on the ben 10 englishboard forums that in af/ua the omnitrix/ultimatrix didnt adapt clothing to the aliens so maybe they took that function out of the omnitrix its a possibilitiy.

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    @Omni-Triforcer Yeah, we saw that ourselves when we watched Alien Force and Ultimate Alien. Apparently, it was I believe because of the Omnitrix recalibrating itself (again, apparently) but I find that as another stupid aspect that the new writers changed and/or did. Like how the Omnitrix itself just somehow magically changed it's physical appearance with no reason as to the purpose why. Again, Dwayne McDuffie did state that he never watched the Original Series before he got to work on Alien Force.

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    Come to think about it, I guess the design for the reboot Diamondhead is acceptable enough. I could be fine with this. His design just needs some improvements to it.

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    Well we are probably less then a year away from the reboot.

  • Well we are probably less then a year away from the reboot.

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    @Omni-Triforcer Well see how it turns out.There are some good aspects to the image of Ben and Diamondhead that I did mention on the other page that admin made but overall, it's not bad but it's not good enough either. A lot of improvements needs to be made with the design of the reboot Ben and even the reboot Diamondhead. The quality on Ben is just lower than when we first saw him during the reboot announcements and, again, something just spells Omniverse with Diamondhead's design and appearance and that's not a good thing in my book. Plus, compared to what the Original Series had with the designs of Ben and Diamondhead, these reboot designs aren't even close to the quality of the Original Series designs and artwork. I'm just finally glad that we got something official from Cartoon Network at least, even if it's not good. We'll see what else comes out.

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    There are some issues people aren't realizing though, most people want to watch shows online, not just for free and to avoid ads, but to just watch everything faster and avoid all the crappy shows the network has to offer. Cartoon Network barely makes a million views now because they're focusing on a streaming service that nobody is going to use. Boomerang will be a shock if there is enough people touching it but overall CN is going to screw themselves over if they focus more on the business and not the channel itself, which they haven't been doing since 2015. They maybe thinking TTG is going to lead them to success but they're wrong if they think only airing a handful of all the shows you're making right now is going to do anything, if you have 20 shows and only air 5 and a movie we've already seen a million times, its not going to do enough for the network to last much longer, take a look at what happened to Nickelodeon, they've been losing money to the point where they lost the amusement park, and I doubt anybody really watches the award shows anymore. And another thing to mention, the only way to get ratings is a Nielsen box or to have Xfinity, they won't count the ratings any other cable providers offers so the ratings wouldn't do much since it only goes to those people. Now for what reason I don't know, but since a lot less people either don't have those boxes and prefer watching shows online, even on properties like KissCartoon/KissAsian, WatchCartoonsOnline, Animeflavor, Gogoanime, you name it, and its a long list.
  • What fans want in a Ben 10 reboot

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    With me I would want bwen pairing or have Ben and Gwen be classmates like the original idea also I would want Kevin be put down like the mad dog he is
  • Ben 10 (Reboot) CN France Promo

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    @Ebomnitrix said in Ben 10 (Reboot) CN France Promo: From what I've seen in the promo, and what TacticalOchoa said. It's Clown College. Ben's fear of clowns being gone, I'm not as surprised about, but if they took that away, I'm gonna be shocked what else they take away, his allergy to peanuts? I wish this promo was in English, I wanna hear who plays Cannonbolt. Tbh I'm excited to see this episode, just to see how Cannonbolt's role will play out and who else will show up. Is it me, or is every episode gonna star Ben and Gwen, and Max will barely be in this show at all. Cause from the looks of it, I'm getting that vibe. I seriously want more footage though, cause I wanna see the other aliens in action, and hear their English voices. Well actually this is the first footage we have got of cannonbolt actually doing stuff. Im want to see some actual footage of overflow and see how different he is from water hazard.
  • Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2

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    @Ebomnitrix And there's your episodes folks. I'm going to make a part 3 to Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot. Part 2 is already going on for long enough now and I plan on having part 3 be made specifically to discuss and comment on the episodes of the Ben 10 reboot. Here is the link to part 3. http://ben10club.org/topic/181/addressing-the-ben-10-reboot-part-3
  • Ben 10 Reboot Quizzes and Stuff

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    @Rexfan1333 This is the link : https://m.facebook.com/Ben10Reboot/