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    Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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    • Ungrateful-Wolf
      Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

      Maybe because they were still trying to get their footing and weren't expecting to make a masterpiece at first try with OS, so they didn't make it too complicated because the show was still at the start of a franchise and things weren't expected to be too big?

      Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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      • cooljay7
        cooljay7 @Tactical Ochoa last edited by cooljay7

        @tactical-ochoa Yeah I can't see Cartoon Network letting them do whatever they want. What I really don't understand is how Cartoon Network went from a network that about 10 years ago primarily produced action shows to what they are today.

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        • Tactical Ochoa
          Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

          @ungrateful-wolf Nice theory. I have a better one. Those pre-concepts didn't make it into the OS because they knew it wouldn't work for the show and the reboot is proof that those very pre-concept elements (like Stinkfly's design and Kevin having his own Omnitrix) indeed don't work.

          @cooljay7 I say pretty much the same reason as why companies like Activision and EA went so downhill with the quality of their games. Greed. They got greedy. Regardless, I think Man of Action still has enough say on the Ben 10 reboot to hold them accountable for the abysmal quality that they produced; especially considering how they came out saying that the reboot was the show that they wanted the OS to be and considering how plenty of their other recent TV works since Ultimate Spider-Man aren't really up to good standards of quality. To me, they just seem so out of touch with their fans and audience and have lost their touch in their work. I said this plenty of times before. Man of Action is like the George Lucas of Ben 10 right now. I want to see them do good but I'm really losing my trust, patience, and credibility towards them because of stuff like this freakin reboot.

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          • cooljay7
            cooljay7 last edited by

            The names for some of Kevin's other aliens have been revealed.
            Four Arms = Quad Smack
            Rath = Bashmouth
            Diamondhead = Black Ice
            And we knew that Wreckingbolt = Cannonbolt and Heatblast = Hot Shot.
            I'm just amazed at how bad some of these names are. I thought that Hot Shot and Wreckingbolt were good but Quad Smack for Kevin's Four Arms is just awful. Same goes for Black Ice. Since when is Diamondhead an alien with ice powers? Even Bashmouth isn't a good name.

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            • Ungrateful-Wolf
              Ungrateful-Wolf @cooljay7 last edited by Ungrateful-Wolf

              @cooljay7 That's because Kevin's aliens are all based on band and music names.
              Quad Smack = SMACK (finnish band)
              Bashmouth = Smash Mouth (band)
              Black Ice = Black Eyed Peas (band)
              Wreckingbolt = Wrecking Ball (song by Miley Cyrus)
              Hot Shot = Hotshot (band)

              You'll notice Ben himself has two reboot original aliens with that theme naming too: Shock Rock (music genre) and Slapback (sound term).

              For Black Ice, let's be honest, we all heard the complaint that Diamondhead's powers in the reboot looked too much like ice powers at least once. The writers acknowledged that and used it to name Diamondhead's copy.
              Also, as mutated Kevin's aliens can be, I really don't feel Bashmouth is an Appoplexian. He looks more like a werewolf like Blitzwolfer than a tiger or any anthropomorphic feline. (I do believe he is Rath's rival tho)

              Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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              • Offbeatcat
                Offbeatcat last edited by

                here's my theory: MOA is in more control then we credit, but i think different people are running this show, and those people just kinda skimmed the old stuff, probably eyeballing concept art and saying: "yeah, we can do that."

                Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                • Ungrateful-Wolf
                  Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                  I'll be honest, I feel like they're more taking old unused ideas, or unusually strange ideas, and sometimes saying "sure, why the hell not?" Not in a negative way, a neutral one.

                  Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                  • Offbeatcat
                    Offbeatcat @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                    @ungrateful-wolf I dunno man, everything seems to circle back to selling toys.

                    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                    • cooljay7
                      cooljay7 @Offbeatcat last edited by

                      @offbeatcat Yeah they are definitely making decisions that will make it easier to market toys to kids. With that being said the quality of the figures for the reboot (made by Playmates toys) are much higher than the quality of the Bandai figures.

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                      • Offbeatcat
                        Offbeatcat last edited by

                        The "omni-ki" is the ultimate example of this mentality.

                        Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                        • Offbeatcat
                          Offbeatcat last edited by

                          i mean, even having multiple aliens would be better then slapping armor on old ones.

                          Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                          • Tactical Ochoa
                            Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                            @ungrateful-wolf said in Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3:

                            @cooljay7 That's because Kevin's aliens are all based on band and music names.
                            Quad Smack = SMACK (finnish band)
                            Bashmouth = Smash Mouth (band)
                            Black Ice = Black Eyed Peas (band)
                            Wreckingbolt = Wrecking Ball (song by Miley Cyrus)
                            Hot Shot = Hotshot (band)

                            You'll notice Ben himself has two reboot original aliens with that theme naming too: Shock Rock (music genre) and Slapback (sound term).

                            For Black Ice, let's be honest, we all heard the complaint that Diamondhead's powers in the reboot looked too much like ice powers at least once. The writers acknowledged that and used it to name Diamondhead's copy.
                            Also, as mutated Kevin's aliens can be, I really don't feel Bashmouth is an Appoplexian. He looks more like a werewolf like Blitzwolfer than a tiger or any anthropomorphic feline. (I do believe he is Rath's rival tho)

                            And where's your proof that this is the case? Did Man of Action or someone from Cartoon Network confirm this?

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                            • Ungrateful-Wolf
                              Ungrateful-Wolf @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                              @tactical-ochoa No, no official source. But when at least three Kevin aliens confirm it and when two of Ben's aliens also apply, it becomes a solid theory. Kinda surprised you're paying attention to something that trivial.

                              Unless you're talking about Bashmouth, in which case I was just giving an opinion when I said I believed he was Rath's rival

                              Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                              • Offbeatcat
                                Offbeatcat @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                                @ungrateful-wolf Diamond ice as black ice is a huge stretch. So are Quad smack and and smack. i just don't see it.

                                Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                                • Ungrateful-Wolf
                                  Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                                  just a theory at this point, nothing crazy

                                  Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                                  • cooljay7
                                    cooljay7 last edited by

                                    Is it just me or does Omni-Kix sound like it's the same thing as Omni-Enhanced?

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                                    • Tactical Ochoa
                                      Tactical Ochoa @cooljay7 last edited by

                                      @cooljay7 It pretty much is.

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                                      • Offbeatcat
                                        Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                                        @tactical-ochoa i can't believe they're already running out of ideas

                                        Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                                        • jondennison72
                                          jondennison72 Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                          Hey how about a new Ben 10 Reboot episode when Grandpa Max Tennyson tells his grandkids how he spend his young days in college at State University.

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                                          • Offbeatcat
                                            Offbeatcat @jondennison72 last edited by

                                            @jondennison72 Even better, how about they make a completely new show and just sell the rights to the brand?

                                            Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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