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Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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  • here's my theory: MOA is in more control then we credit, but i think different people are running this show, and those people just kinda skimmed the old stuff, probably eyeballing concept art and saying: "yeah, we can do that."

  • I'll be honest, I feel like they're more taking old unused ideas, or unusually strange ideas, and sometimes saying "sure, why the hell not?" Not in a negative way, a neutral one.

  • I'll be honest, I feel like they're more taking old unused ideas, or unusually strange ideas, and sometimes saying "sure, why the hell not?" Not in a negative way, a neutral one.

    @ungrateful-wolf I dunno man, everything seems to circle back to selling toys.

  • @ungrateful-wolf I dunno man, everything seems to circle back to selling toys.

    @offbeatcat Yeah they are definitely making decisions that will make it easier to market toys to kids. With that being said the quality of the figures for the reboot (made by Playmates toys) are much higher than the quality of the Bandai figures.

  • The "omni-ki" is the ultimate example of this mentality.

  • i mean, even having multiple aliens would be better then slapping armor on old ones.

  • @cooljay7 That's because Kevin's aliens are all based on band and music names.
    Quad Smack = SMACK (finnish band)
    Bashmouth = Smash Mouth (band)
    Black Ice = Black Eyed Peas (band)
    Wreckingbolt = Wrecking Ball (song by Miley Cyrus)
    Hot Shot = Hotshot (band)

    You'll notice Ben himself has two reboot original aliens with that theme naming too: Shock Rock (music genre) and Slapback (sound term).

    For Black Ice, let's be honest, we all heard the complaint that Diamondhead's powers in the reboot looked too much like ice powers at least once. The writers acknowledged that and used it to name Diamondhead's copy.
    Also, as mutated Kevin's aliens can be, I really don't feel Bashmouth is an Appoplexian. He looks more like a werewolf like Blitzwolfer than a tiger or any anthropomorphic feline. (I do believe he is Rath's rival tho)

    @ungrateful-wolf said in Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3:

    @cooljay7 That's because Kevin's aliens are all based on band and music names.
    Quad Smack = SMACK (finnish band)
    Bashmouth = Smash Mouth (band)
    Black Ice = Black Eyed Peas (band)
    Wreckingbolt = Wrecking Ball (song by Miley Cyrus)
    Hot Shot = Hotshot (band)

    You'll notice Ben himself has two reboot original aliens with that theme naming too: Shock Rock (music genre) and Slapback (sound term).

    For Black Ice, let's be honest, we all heard the complaint that Diamondhead's powers in the reboot looked too much like ice powers at least once. The writers acknowledged that and used it to name Diamondhead's copy.
    Also, as mutated Kevin's aliens can be, I really don't feel Bashmouth is an Appoplexian. He looks more like a werewolf like Blitzwolfer than a tiger or any anthropomorphic feline. (I do believe he is Rath's rival tho)

    And where's your proof that this is the case? Did Man of Action or someone from Cartoon Network confirm this?

  • @ungrateful-wolf said in Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3:

    @cooljay7 That's because Kevin's aliens are all based on band and music names.
    Quad Smack = SMACK (finnish band)
    Bashmouth = Smash Mouth (band)
    Black Ice = Black Eyed Peas (band)
    Wreckingbolt = Wrecking Ball (song by Miley Cyrus)
    Hot Shot = Hotshot (band)

    You'll notice Ben himself has two reboot original aliens with that theme naming too: Shock Rock (music genre) and Slapback (sound term).

    For Black Ice, let's be honest, we all heard the complaint that Diamondhead's powers in the reboot looked too much like ice powers at least once. The writers acknowledged that and used it to name Diamondhead's copy.
    Also, as mutated Kevin's aliens can be, I really don't feel Bashmouth is an Appoplexian. He looks more like a werewolf like Blitzwolfer than a tiger or any anthropomorphic feline. (I do believe he is Rath's rival tho)

    And where's your proof that this is the case? Did Man of Action or someone from Cartoon Network confirm this?

    @tactical-ochoa No, no official source. But when at least three Kevin aliens confirm it and when two of Ben's aliens also apply, it becomes a solid theory. Kinda surprised you're paying attention to something that trivial.

    Unless you're talking about Bashmouth, in which case I was just giving an opinion when I said I believed he was Rath's rival

  • @tactical-ochoa No, no official source. But when at least three Kevin aliens confirm it and when two of Ben's aliens also apply, it becomes a solid theory. Kinda surprised you're paying attention to something that trivial.

    Unless you're talking about Bashmouth, in which case I was just giving an opinion when I said I believed he was Rath's rival

    @ungrateful-wolf Diamond ice as black ice is a huge stretch. So are Quad smack and and smack. i just don't see it.

  • just a theory at this point, nothing crazy

  • Is it just me or does Omni-Kix sound like it's the same thing as Omni-Enhanced?

  • Is it just me or does Omni-Kix sound like it's the same thing as Omni-Enhanced?

    @cooljay7 It pretty much is.

  • @cooljay7 It pretty much is.

    @tactical-ochoa i can't believe they're already running out of ideas

  • Hey how about a new Ben 10 Reboot episode when Grandpa Max Tennyson tells his grandkids how he spend his young days in college at State University.

  • Hey how about a new Ben 10 Reboot episode when Grandpa Max Tennyson tells his grandkids how he spend his young days in college at State University.

    @jondennison72 Even better, how about they make a completely new show and just sell the rights to the brand?

  • @jondennison72 Even better, how about they make a completely new show and just sell the rights to the brand?

    @offbeatcat I said this plenty of times before. I say that it could be better for the franchise as a whole if a good Japanese animation company takes over Ben 10.

  • @offbeatcat I said this plenty of times before. I say that it could be better for the franchise as a whole if a good Japanese animation company takes over Ben 10.

    @tactical-ochoa it's unlikely, honestly. With how the show's been going, i doubt people would even want to buy it.

  • @tactical-ochoa it's unlikely, honestly. With how the show's been going, i doubt people would even want to buy it.

    @offbeatcat Well, that's part of the reason as to why I have an interest in making a Ben 10 game and why I want to see if I can convince PlatinumGames to make it. To try and respark interest in the Ben 10 franchise. To try and turn things around for the betterment of things.

  • @offbeatcat Well, that's part of the reason as to why I have an interest in making a Ben 10 game and why I want to see if I can convince PlatinumGames to make it. To try and respark interest in the Ben 10 franchise. To try and turn things around for the betterment of things.

    @tactical-ochoa it's highly unliekly, but not impossible. don't bank on it.

  • @tactical-ochoa it's highly unliekly, but not impossible. don't bank on it.

    @offbeatcat It's worth a try at least. After all, PlatinumGames isn't new to making licensed games. They made Legend of Korra, Transformers: Devastation, and TMNT: Mutants in Manhattan as well as Starfox Zero and Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Plus, with their philosophy on gameplay, a game made by PlatinumGames where the main playable character can transform into various different forms could certainly be quite an interesting concept that would attract plenty of attention. Besides, the gaming industry is a multi-billion dollar industry and the biggest entertainment industry in the world. It would be stupid for Cartoon Network to not take advantage of such potential.

  • Ben 10 reboot: A positives discussion

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    @tactical-ochoa This is a positivity channel. Keep your negative remarks in some other channel.
  • My Ben 10 (Reboot) HATE Picture

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    I agree tactical
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    @GoodVibes1999 I'm not a big fan either, but with the animation style and great writing from Greg Wiseman back, it would be a true masterpiece.
  • The Ben 10 Series

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    @chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important. Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that. That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network. As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.
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    they should an entire series about ken 10 and devlin 11