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    Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

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    • Offbeatcat
      Offbeatcat last edited by

      @Tactical-Ochoa what's your opinion on the potential reappearance of Rath?

      Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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      • Tactical Ochoa
        Tactical Ochoa @Offbeatcat last edited by

        @andrew42 Rath is a really funny alien in the show but when it comes to practicality, he's pretty much useless. Rath is just a basic brawler to me and pretty much almost every other alien that Ben has are much better options for Ben to use in combat. Rath being funny is pretty much the only thing that makes him stand out from other aliens. Therefore, if Rath is going to return in the show, I'm not looking forward to it. He's a redundant alien and there are other aliens in the franchise that they could've brought back that are much better options than Rath.

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        • Offbeatcat
          Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

          @tactical-ochoa I feel it fits the show. The show is a bit more based on humor, and this new ben is a bit less mature then the one we know. So, if we combine that lack of maturity with Rath's temper tantrums, it could be pretty amusing. I think that Rath was a good choice, since he goes well with the theme. I think we can both agree that we'll get more laughs out of him, in the very least.

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          • Ultimate OmniTri
            Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

            Also rath is an alien that uses wrestling moves so maybe he can be the wrestling alien in the reboot.

            10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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            • Tactical Ochoa
              Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

              @ultimate-omnitri And other aliens like Fourarms can't use wrestling moves?

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              • Ultimate OmniTri
                Ultimate OmniTri Moderator @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                @tactical-ochoa Well they can but they dont usually. If you notice that four arms usually just punched while in omniverse and ultimate alien rath knew alot of wrestling moves. He would even name drop the moves he was using.

                10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                • Offbeatcat
                  Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                  @tactical-ochoa He can, but Rath is: "MACHO!"

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                  • Ebomnitrix
                    Ebomnitrix Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                    I'm just glad this confirmed Rath's existence in the Omnitrix.
                    I would've liked to seen Spidermonkey, Ditto or Upchuck return in the series, since they're really good aliens, especially for a Young Ben.

                    It's Action Time!

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                    • Offbeatcat
                      Offbeatcat @Ebomnitrix last edited by

                      @ebomnitrix Ditto.

                      Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                      • Tactical Ochoa
                        Tactical Ochoa @Ebomnitrix last edited by

                        @ebomnitrix Those would've been better options to bring back instead of Rath.

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                        • Ebomnitrix
                          Ebomnitrix Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                          I mean I also would've loved to see Swampfire if they brought back his compost powers, or even bring in Echo Echo, I don't mind Echo Echo appearing since it would be so unique to him, and since MOA is going for more powerful aliens in his additional set rather than unique powers.

                          It's Action Time!

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                          • Ultimate OmniTri
                            Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                            It is becoming clear to me that the reboot isn't trying to be like the old show but it trying to be something in its own right and i admire it for that. Animo Becoming The Anti-Ben Proves that this show isnt following what past shows have done and i think thats a great idea.

                            10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                            • Offbeatcat
                              Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                              @tactical-ochoa i agree, they are better from an all around ability point of view. Rath was picked simply because....Rath. He's a running joke. It was only a matter of time before he appeared in the reboot.
                              Still, the door is now open for other aliens to return...

                              Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                              • Offbeatcat
                                Offbeatcat @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                                @ultimate-omnitri I agree. That's always been my point. The reboot is something new, and we should see it that way. not as a rehash of the old show.

                                Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                                • Ebomnitrix
                                  Ebomnitrix Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                  At least they didn't ruin Rath, they just made him more like his AF self, but given pants. Well we still can't even confirm that Rath will return yet, since this was Animo-Rath, and even then he wasn't ruined. I'm hoping when Ben does become Rath, it'll be something worthy to be glad over.

                                  It's Action Time!

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                                  • Ultimate OmniTri
                                    Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                                    Im sure we will see rath. They wouldnt just tease us an alien and then throw it away.
                                    I also like the OV Reference with Animo-Rath Wearing Pants.
                                    "Appoplexians Wear Pants!"

                                    10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                                    • Tactical Ochoa
                                      Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                                      @ultimate-omnitri said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 5: Season 2:

                                      It is becoming clear to me that the reboot isn't trying to be like the old show but it trying to be something in its own right and i admire it for that. Animo Becoming The Anti-Ben Proves that this show isnt following what past shows have done and i think thats a great idea.

                                      Yeah, sure, even though the Ben 10 reboot copied so much from the original show (along with some elements from the sequel shows) and even still using the same exact premise as the original show. Even though some of the season 2 episodes are still using some elements from the previous shows (Dr. Animo and Vilgax teaming up with each other and Zombozo trying to hypnotize people, for example). Sure, it's definitely trying to do its own thing. It's definitely not following what the previous shows have done already. Sure, the potential of Rath returning is certainly not another example that the reboot is still copying from the previous shows.

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                                      • Offbeatcat
                                        Offbeatcat @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                                        @tactical-ochoa Can you not? This is the negativity we're all annoyed by. We find something positive and promising, and you tear it down before our eyes.

                                        Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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                                        • Tactical Ochoa
                                          Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                                          @ultimate-omnitri said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 5: Season 2:

                                          @tactical-ochoa Well they can but they dont usually. If you notice that four arms usually just punched while in omniverse and ultimate alien rath knew alot of wrestling moves. He would even name drop the moves he was using.

                                          Yeah and Fourarms is much stronger than Rath. Let's keep going with this. XLR8 is much faster than Rath. Heatblast can shoot fire and Rath can't. Diamondhead can form crystals and Rath can't. Etc etc etc. Those wrestling moves aren't going to be of much use to Rath if his opponent is either stronger, faster, have unique abilities, etc. Again, Rath is just a redundant brawler.

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                                          • Tactical Ochoa
                                            Tactical Ochoa @Ebomnitrix last edited by

                                            @ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 5: Season 2:

                                            I mean I also would've loved to see Swampfire if they brought back his compost powers, or even bring in Echo Echo, I don't mind Echo Echo appearing since it would be so unique to him, and since MOA is going for more powerful aliens in his additional set rather than unique powers.

                                            Granted, they already have Wildvine and Heatblast. I also already made the argument before that Echo Echo is way too powerful of an alien for Ben to have and use.

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