Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions
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Yay, new aliens!
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New aliens! That's great news!
So, Man of Action subtle confirmed my headcanon that each new series was in fact a reboot set in another timeline, and not a sequel (The show has always rebooted. (...) it’s rebooted almost every two or three years for its entire life (...) there have been other Ben 10 reboots). I think we can officialy say that "Goodbye and Good Riddance" is the true ending of OS, and AF/UA happened in other universe, and OV happened in a third universe.
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New aliens! That's great news!
So, Man of Action subtle confirmed my headcanon that each new series was in fact a reboot set in another timeline, and not a sequel (The show has always rebooted. (...) it’s rebooted almost every two or three years for its entire life (...) there have been other Ben 10 reboots). I think we can officialy say that "Goodbye and Good Riddance" is the true ending of OS, and AF/UA happened in other universe, and OV happened in a third universe.
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There is something I'd like to point out.
They aren't reboots, they're sequels, this is the first ever Reboot of the franchise.
I think Man of Action is thinking this way because they don't fully like the idea of aging Ben too soon, while also losing their chance to create Alien Force before creative control was taken away.
So far the only thing I've really seen from future series in the Reboot was Billy Billions, Michael Morningstar whose now "Darkstar", and Water Hazard, along with using Big Chill's design onto the Prototype Stinkfly. But there's probably more things they did like that we'll see later on, at least I hope. -
@csgt Doesn't 'Goodbye and Good Riddance' take place in an alternate universe aswell?
Also, I could've sworn somewhere that they said Secret of the Omnitrix was the true final.
@Spookyohno Goodbye and Good Riddance had to be set in an alternate universe because Alien Force contradicts it. In Goodbye Ben's identity is exposed and in AF his identity is secret again. Otherwise, there is no problem admiting that Goodbye is part of the OS timeline.
@Ebomnitrix I think you're right, but I actually agree with Man of Action. Starting from AF, not only a lot of things from OS were retconed but also the whole dynamics of the series was changed from "Ben, his grandfather and his cousin" to "Kevin, his gilfriend and his friend", so considering that Man of Action are the original creators of Ben 10, they have every right to say "What those other guys did, it's a reboot, it's not a sequel to our work" (but of course they said that in a more polite way)
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There is something I'd like to point out.
They aren't reboots, they're sequels, this is the first ever Reboot of the franchise.
I think Man of Action is thinking this way because they don't fully like the idea of aging Ben too soon, while also losing their chance to create Alien Force before creative control was taken away.
So far the only thing I've really seen from future series in the Reboot was Billy Billions, Michael Morningstar whose now "Darkstar", and Water Hazard, along with using Big Chill's design onto the Prototype Stinkfly. But there's probably more things they did like that we'll see later on, at least I hope.@Ebomnitrix Except Man of Action wanted to make Ben 10: Hero Generation, which was supposed to focus on a teenage Ben and Gwen. If that's the sequel to the original show that they wanted to make, then even they saw that it was a good moment to have the characters age and grow up, which really confuses me when they mentioned that they thought it was too soon to have the characters age. Even then, the original show was around for three years with the show's timeline taking up the entire summer and it was too soon to have the characters age? It was the perfect time to have the characters age and grow up. Granted, I say that the Ben 10 fanfics, Little Moments and Breaking Point, did a much better job of having the characters age and grow up than what Alien Force did.
@csgt Go back and watch Goodbye and Good Riddance. At the beginning of the episode after the intro theme song, the episode establishes that it's a "What if" episode and therefore not canon.
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@Ebomnitrix Except Man of Action wanted to make Ben 10: Hero Generation, which was supposed to focus on a teenage Ben and Gwen. If that's the sequel to the original show that they wanted to make, then even they saw that it was a good moment to have the characters age and grow up, which really confuses me when they mentioned that they thought it was too soon to have the characters age. Even then, the original show was around for three years with the show's timeline taking up the entire summer and it was too soon to have the characters age? It was the perfect time to have the characters age and grow up. Granted, I say that the Ben 10 fanfics, Little Moments and Breaking Point, did a much better job of having the characters age and grow up than what Alien Force did.
@csgt Go back and watch Goodbye and Good Riddance. At the beginning of the episode after the intro theme song, the episode establishes that it's a "What if" episode and therefore not canon.
@Tactical-Ochoa I know, it begins with the "comic book intro", it's a possibility, not a certainty. But what I meant was, Goodbye doesn't contradict anything from OS, and I personally think it offers a nice ending to OS showing the end of the summer and Ben and Gwen still fighting crime together, so I see no harm in taking it as canon to the OS timeline.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I personally think they made Goodbye a "What If" episode only because they wasn't sure if CN was going to give them a fifth season. So, if they had another season, they could still keep the summer vacations going and ignore Goodbye, but if they didn't get another season (which was the case), they still had a great final episode wrapping up the summer vacations and the series as a whole.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I know, it begins with the "comic book intro", it's a possibility, not a certainty. But what I meant was, Goodbye doesn't contradict anything from OS, and I personally think it offers a nice ending to OS showing the end of the summer and Ben and Gwen still fighting crime together, so I see no harm in taking it as canon to the OS timeline.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I personally think they made Goodbye a "What If" episode only because they wasn't sure if CN was going to give them a fifth season. So, if they had another season, they could still keep the summer vacations going and ignore Goodbye, but if they didn't get another season (which was the case), they still had a great final episode wrapping up the summer vacations and the series as a whole.
@csgt Regardless, the episode establishes that it's not canon. It doesn't matter if it's a fitting ending. It doesn't matter if it doesn't conflict with the continuity of the Original Series. It's established as a what-if episode and therefore not canon. Even the episode, Gwen 10, points out that it's one possibility for which the story could've gone and yet it's established as a what-if episode and therefore not canon. If that's the case for that episode, it's the same case for Goodbye and Good Riddance as well.
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I wonder when their aired more brand new Ben 10 Reboot episodes including "Bad Penny" "Scared Silly and "Max To The Max" on Cartoon Network? Will they show preview clips on Youtube.com or on KissCartoon or on dailymotion.com? Please let me know okay.
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So when are Episodes 31-38 supposed to be airing?
It's Action Time!
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https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/861616944000016384
Yuri Lowenthal has apparently already recorded with everyone, so there's a good chance he might appear in Season 2, or Season 1 will be extended.
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https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/861616944000016384
Yuri Lowenthal has apparently already recorded with everyone, so there's a good chance he might appear in Season 2, or Season 1 will be extended.
@Spookyohno My guess is that Yuri Lowenthal is voicing the "Mad Ben" we saw in one of the latest trailers.
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So when are Episodes 31-38 supposed to be airing?
@Ebomnitrix that whole one eye closed thing kinda reminds me of that one episode in omniverse with ghostfreak
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@Spookyohno My guess is that Yuri Lowenthal is voicing the "Mad Ben" we saw in one of the latest trailers.
@csgt said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:
@Spookyohno My guess is that Yuri Lowenthal is voicing the "Mad Ben" we saw in one of the latest trailers.
I dont see him being a Mad Ben. Since Tara strong would most likely voice him.
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So when are Episodes 31-38 supposed to be airing?
@Ebomnitrix like the new Ben 10 clip of Scared Silly".Like to see more new Ben 10 cartoon clips including "Max to the Max" and "Zombozo-Land" real soon.
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Forgeti and Scared Silly are online:
Mainly SS since its new:
https://www.watchcartoononline.io/ben-10-episode-32-scared-sillyIt's Action Time!
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Forgeti and Scared Silly are online:
Mainly SS since its new:
https://www.watchcartoononline.io/ben-10-episode-32-scared-silly@Ebomnitrix Hmm Episode 32 "Scared Silly" was actually a Scooby Doo Rip Off and the ending was pretty interesting, maybe the brothers were sent to the Null Void?
Can't wait to see @Tactical-Ochoa His episode Review on this episode. -
I really liked Scared Silly once we got to the second half of the episode
Upgrade as a knight was amazing and I kinda got Paradox vibes once Wildvine was fighting against Karl with a K, along with the giant portal. -
Forgeti and Scared Silly are online:
Mainly SS since its new:
https://www.watchcartoononline.io/ben-10-episode-32-scared-silly@Ebomnitrix I checked the new Ben 10 episode Scared Silly. Ben was scared of staying at haunted hotel with Gwen and Grandpa Max. I can't wait to see more new episodes of Ben 10 episodes including "Max to the Max" and "Zombozo-Land" this weekend,so keep 'em coming.LOL
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