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  • csgtC

    With us all talking about a Ben 10 reboot made by another company not involving Cartoon Network, an idea came to my mind, something that I honestly think wouldn't be too difficult to happen. A comic book Ben 10 reboot. Not children comics based on the show, but a serious reboot.

    Cartoon Network is owned by Warner, who also owns DC Comics. And DC Comics is already doing some rebooted comic book versions of cartoons aired by Cartoon Network, like Scooby-Doo and Flintstones (you can check it out)

    Maybe we can get DC writers to make a badass comic book version of Ben 10. And make no mistake, comics nowadays are way more serious, darker and edgier than cartoons, and there would be room to explore a lot more of things.

    1. Anyone can Die

    Comics have no problem showing deaths of characters, while cartoons avoid this.
    http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/width_1280/public/9-3Deaths9.jpeg?itok=YgV7Qt2j
    (Blue Beetle killed by Maxwell Lord)

    1. Serious storylines

    There are almost no silly storylines. Even in Scooby Doo newest version, Scooby Doo being a talking dog is explained by saying he was an experiment from the government to enhance animals. He was a failed experiment, because he was not good at fighting, but was saved by Shaggy from being put down.
    http://www.readcomics.tv/scooby-apocalypse/chapter-1/35
    http://www.readcomics.tv/scooby-apocalypse/chapter-1/36

    1. Bwen

    Although it's easy to see a lot of same-sex couples in comic books, cousin couples face a greater prejudice and are still very hard to find. BUT I think DC wouldn't be too afraid to make it happen. For example in Blackest Night, when Superboy (genetic clone of Superman) was possessed by the black ring, it was revealed that deep down he is actually attracted to Supergirl (Superman's cousin)
    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/36774/1125324-09_2.jpg
    Nothing ever came out of it, but the Superboy/Supergirl pairing is not popular. However the Bwen pairing is hugely popular among the fandom, and with pressure from the fans, I think DC could even make it happen for real.

    What do you guys think of the possibility of a Ben 10 comic book reboot?

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  • Rexfan1333R

    I would like that, but I like a Japanese manga Ben 10 series as well

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  • Rexfan1333R Rexfan1333

    I would like that, but I like a Japanese manga Ben 10 series as well

    csgtC

    @Rexfan1333 Yes, it would be nice too. But as I said, Warner owns both DC Comics and Cartoon Network, so it would be a lot easier to get a Ben 10 comic book from DC than a manga from another company. Like, it's something that I can see happening in the future, if we fans can make DC know that we would buy that.

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  • csgtC csgt

    @Rexfan1333 Yes, it would be nice too. But as I said, Warner owns both DC Comics and Cartoon Network, so it would be a lot easier to get a Ben 10 comic book from DC than a manga from another company. Like, it's something that I can see happening in the future, if we fans can make DC know that we would buy that.

    Rexfan1333R

    @csgt I honestly like to see Ben 10 go to Marvel, possible crossover with Ben 10 and Spider-Man and him in the MCU would be freaking epic, I'm cool with DC too, but they gave us stuff like TTG, but I can forgive them because it's CN that made that crap happen. As for a manga, it can work if they stay away of the typical Shonen stereotypes and make a Adventure/Si-Fi storyline.

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  • csgtC csgt

    @Rexfan1333 Yes, it would be nice too. But as I said, Warner owns both DC Comics and Cartoon Network, so it would be a lot easier to get a Ben 10 comic book from DC than a manga from another company. Like, it's something that I can see happening in the future, if we fans can make DC know that we would buy that.

    Rexfan1333R

    @csgt I understand it's easier for Ben 10 to go to DC, but I'm scared that CN might get involved in like many sucky cash grab comics that are so hard to find in the Ben 10 franchise. I want a serious series with blood and maybe sex if they are a bit bold. (I want Ben and Gwen to be 18 years old in this possible series) I've had enough of them as kids and want them to be adults god damn it.

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  • Rexfan1333R

    Also hotter and interesting female characters are a must, I also don't want typical comic artist that draw their males with huge biceps and such. I don't mind comic artist like Gurihiru to work on Ben 10 though

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  • Rexfan1333R

    I also like to have harem plots with Ben and the girls in the series, (it doesn't have to happen, but I like to see some girls flirt with Ben), I don't mind Ben and Gwen being at least 15 or 17 as well. I also want really cool moments of Ben being heroic and kind hearted like helping an old lady cross the street, stopping bullies, rescuing a kitten, the small things that show true heroism.

    I also like to have back stories for characters and how they became what they are. Also like to see new interesting characters that are actually interesting. A mature and likeable Ben with a love for nestalgia like video games.

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    @csgt I honestly like to see Ben 10 go to Marvel, possible crossover with Ben 10 and Spider-Man and him in the MCU would be freaking epic, I'm cool with DC too, but they gave us stuff like TTG, but I can forgive them because it's CN that made that crap happen. As for a manga, it can work if they stay away of the typical Shonen stereotypes and make a Adventure/Si-Fi storyline.

    csgtC

    @Rexfan1333 You mentioned the MCU, and I actually had an idea to write a fanfic about Ben 10 in the MCU. The Omnitrix would have one of the infinity stones (just like Loki's Scepter had one) and Gwen would be an Inhuman (if you watch Agents of SHIELD, which is also set in the MCU, you will understand what I'm talking about). I thought about starting from Age of Ultron, replacing Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with Ben and Gwen. But ultimately I decided to write Watch Boy & Lucky Girl because mixing MCU characters would require more skill and talent than I have at the moment.

    But as I said, I'm talking about real possibilities, and unfortunately, I don't think Ben 10 with Marvel is a realistic possibility.

    And of course, in my comic book reboot idea Ben and Gwen wouldn't be kids, they would be at least teenagers.

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  • npzmanN

    Should the Ben 10 reboot be a in-universe fictional accounts of the original Ben 10 Continuity ?

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    It could be a very inaccurate retelling of the original series with a few twists and turns. The reboot show could be a thing long after Ben Prime's death or during Ben 10k where Ben wouldn't be cocky and would give information and stuff for the show.
  • OffbeatcatO

    Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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    I'm pretty neutral on my thoughts about the reboot. It's not for me and I understand that some people have enjoyed watching it so I don't like to constantly whine and complain about it. But for me it does not match up to the writing in the Prime continuity, especially not to the original series which the reboot shares so many characters and concepts with. I was looking at parent reviews of OS Ben 10 on the slightly infamous site "Common Sense Media" out of boredom today since I only have one exam left. And what I read has led me to believe that there is a huge reason why the reboot seems to be restraining itself when it comes to everything to storytelling to character development to the transformation sequences and even the art style: because CN don't want the parents to be concerned and then ban their kids from watching the show (which would lead to less toy sales and profit). I will say that there are a great deal of parents who do approve of and highly recommend the show and deem it perfectly watchable for kids, although sometimes it may be worth having the parents watch it with them. However, there are also some parents who do not like the OS at all. Many seemed to be concerned that because the show had so many action scenes and admittedly brutal fight scenes, it would lead to their kids becoming violent because the kids couldn't differentiate between reality and fiction. They also seemed to despise how the relationship between Ben and Gwen was presented and how Ben was not a good role model for children due to his cockiness and immaturity. The alien designs also seemed to strike a nerve because they looked like (I quote) "something straight out of hell" and apparently some were far too scary. To all of that, my main response would be that Ben 10 was never meant to be a show just for kids, which seems to be a mistaken impression shared by many parents. It was made first and foremost to be an engaging and compelling show for all ages, with the main target demographic being 10-14 year olds - so not little kids. Yes there is violence but it is not graphic and in my view is necessary to an extent given that it is an action show. The relationship between Gwen and Ben is presented in a very realistic way rather than a 'candy' way (as I read someone saying on the website in defence of the show). They argue and bicker like siblings and are indeed imperfect characters but they do grow throughout the show and actually end up being more relateable for those watching who also aren't perfect. As for the alien designs, well, they're meant to be aliens and not superheroes in suits. Of course they're going to be weird looking and occasionally intimidating. I always thought that the designs were great even when I was much younger. So my conclusion from this? The opinions of a significant portion of parents (as I imagine that these views would be echoed outside of review websites) explain A LOT of the changes which we saw the reboot. The alien designs were changed to look more humanoid and less alien looking and "scary", and the art style was made simpler with a brighter colour pallet to stop younger kids getting scared. Ben and Gwen's relationship showed them getting along for the vast majority of the time to apparently set a better example to kids. The fight scenes are far more toned down and less creative than the original series. The villains are not as intimidating and there aren't significant consequences. One of the major reasons for so many of the reboot's changes is because the network wanted to cash in on the viewership of the younger end of their demographic of 5-10 years old, and so toned down the show so that their parents did not prevent them from watching. This might explain why a lot of Cartoon Network's shows are toning it down these days especially when compared to the mid 200s era. I'm really not trying to diss the parents here and I totally empathise with their concern for their children's wellbeing. Parenting can be rough at times (or so I am told by my parents). For me the solution would be to have sensible discussion with the kids and allow them to understand that lets say, Ben only fights against criminals or other really bad people and never used his aliens to attack anyone else . The misconception of 'all cartoons being for kids' often leads parents to make the mistake of allowing their young children to watch animated programmes which may be too complex or dark for their age, and then with the parents subsequently blaming the programme, it leads to CN making things more younger kid friendly at the cost of alienating the older side of their fanbase. For me, my parents were always cool with me watching Ben 10 as long as I didn't watch too much TV and as far as I remember I never developed behaviour problems while watching the show. In fact I'd think it's the opposite - I thought of Ben as a great role model while growing up, and the fact that he was imperfect only made me relate to him more.
  • EbomnitrixE

    Ben 10 and Young Justice COMIC CON 2017!

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    Here are the links to them instead https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888462655467380736 https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888462252277354496 https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/888462187500494848
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    Ben 10 Reboot Trailer & Footage Discussion

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    @Rexfan1333 That's another thing. I don't hate the reboot's art style either. I just don't like it and I just give it a lot of criticism. With Cartoon Network, we're now at a point where this is just unacceptable because like you said, Cartoon Network's reasons for wanting to go for these types of art styles is bullshit and they and their artists and animators are really just being cheap and lazy here. Like I said, it likely won't even matter that much to many if the story and writing is at least going to be good because the artwork and animation quality alone can turn many viewers away from the reboot. Having a strong story and writing is very much important but so is having some great quality artwork and animations. Artwork that can set the stage for the settings, environments, characters, etc. Animations that can deliver on many of the scenes that we're going to be seeing here. How are viewers supposed to be able to get invested with Ben developing as a character when he looks like crap? How are viewers going to be able to get invested in Ben's aliens if at least some of them look ugly and/or don't even look that much alien at all? How are any of the action scenes going to be good and memorable if the animation quality doesn't back them up? Yes I know we haven't seen any action scenes yet. It's just a point that I want to make. Overall, if they're going to have a strong and memorable story, setting, characters, scenes, etc, then they need to be able to be backed up well by a good quality art style and animations. Otherwise, there would be a chance that things can fall flat pretty badly. Just imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra looking like the Ben 10 reboot or the PPG reboot or Teen Titans Go! or Clarence. Imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra having the lower quality animation work that Cartoon Network Studios is being more known of making. Even with a strong story and characters and all that stuff, those two shows would fall flat pretty badly. Imagine the Ben 10 Original Series having this type of art style and/or this quality of animations. We would more likely not be looking up to the Original Series as much as we did back then and still do and Ben 10 would more likely not have been able to be as successful as it was back then. Omniverse had some good story aspects and moments to it but the art style and animation quality doesn't help to hold those good story aspects and moments up that well. I previously thought that story, writing, characters and all that stuff are more important than visuals but really the visuals of a show, movie, video game, etc are really just as equally important. Everything needs to be able to work and blend together seamlessly and very well. If one of those seams hits a snag and breaks, chances are that everything can fall apart either quickly or eventually. Just something that I want to point out. A strong story is very much important but just as equally so does that apply to having strong visuals and animations as well.
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    FIFTH BEN 10 SERIES CONFIRMED! (2016 Reboot)

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