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CN's treatment of Ben 10

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  • @Tactical-Ochoa Good luck, I'm pretty sure you can get the language. You seem really dedicated and I like that.

    @Rexfan1333 Yeah. I just got to find the time in between my school and work schedule to put in the effort to learn the language.

  • @Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.

    @Rexfan1333 said:

    @Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.

    I'm 47 and still a big animation fan.

  • I know it not much of a idea, but Ben 10 makes a lot of money and can hire amazing Artist (nothing against the Derrick Wyatt, but his styles just didn't work for Ben 10 IMO, but I respect him as a artist), but CN seem is so cheap to do so, I have nothing against the reboot, but I wonder why CN never hire artist like Phil Bourassa or even the artist for Generator Rex to do Omniverse is beyond me or even a Japanese company like Madhouse Studios or Bones studios can make Ben 10 even more amazing. (the Japanese know how to market to kids and are amazing character designers IMO)

    @Rexfan1333
    While I'm generally not a big fan of Japanese animation I"d give it a chance....They can't do worse than CN has so far.

  • @Rexfan1333
    While I'm generally not a big fan of Japanese animation I"d give it a chance....They can't do worse than CN has so far.

    @car54 Yeah, I'm pretty sure any company can make Ben 10 epic. CN just became super greedy and only want money, they don't care about animation anymore.

  • @car54 Yeah, I'm pretty sure any company can make Ben 10 epic. CN just became super greedy and only want money, they don't care about animation anymore.

    @Rexfan1333 Agree.

  • Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
    What companies do you guys think would best suit ben 10?

  • Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
    What companies do you guys think would best suit ben 10?

    @Omni-Triforcer I'm going with a Japanese anime network company/studio.

  • Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
    What companies do you guys think would best suit ben 10?

    @Omni-Triforcer
    A Disney style version of them would be interesting, but I really like the DC idea.
    There are a lot of Ben 10 pics on deviantart that are better than what CN has done since the end of the original series.

  • really! I have always said ben 10 has so much potential for great stories, great characters, and a great universe overall it just needs to get into the hands of someone who will actually care for it.

  • @Omni-Triforcer
    A Disney style version of them would be interesting, but I really like the DC idea.
    There are a lot of Ben 10 pics on deviantart that are better than what CN has done since the end of the original series.

    @car54 Hell, I've seen Ben 10 fan art that's even better than the Original Series artwork.

    @Omni-Triforcer I know. That's something that I really want for Ben 10. To get it out of CN's hands and be put into a different network company that will give the series much more respect, passion, effort, and care into it. Ben 10 always had a lot of potential. The problem is that CN isn't properly utilizing that potential. I've even said it over and over again. Make a reboot that acts as a sequel to the Original Series. Let Man of Action take the series down the route that they intended for it to take. If CN isn't going to give Ben 10 the proper treatment it needs, then like I said before, it would probably be better for the reboot to fail anyways so that if MOA plays their cards right, they could get the series out of CN's hands and go make Ben 10 great again.

  • im thinking how exactly would MOA get the rights to ben 10 back? i highly doubt CN would give the rights to a potentially great show that is ben 10 and if the reboot fails whats stopping them from trying again and again (besides what fans want and lets be honest they arent listening to fans anymore)

  • @car54 Hell, I've seen Ben 10 fan art that's even better than the Original Series artwork.

    @Omni-Triforcer I know. That's something that I really want for Ben 10. To get it out of CN's hands and be put into a different network company that will give the series much more respect, passion, effort, and care into it. Ben 10 always had a lot of potential. The problem is that CN isn't properly utilizing that potential. I've even said it over and over again. Make a reboot that acts as a sequel to the Original Series. Let Man of Action take the series down the route that they intended for it to take. If CN isn't going to give Ben 10 the proper treatment it needs, then like I said before, it would probably be better for the reboot to fail anyways so that if MOA plays their cards right, they could get the series out of CN's hands and go make Ben 10 great again.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    I agree some of the art is even better than the original series. and a lot of the pics of them as teens look more like the original characters aged up than what we saw in AF.
    I'd love to see MoA follow through with their original plan for a sequel series.

  • im thinking how exactly would MOA get the rights to ben 10 back? i highly doubt CN would give the rights to a potentially great show that is ben 10 and if the reboot fails whats stopping them from trying again and again (besides what fans want and lets be honest they arent listening to fans anymore)

    @Omni-Triforcer If Ben 10 isn't earning CN a profit anymore, then they'll be more willing to just give up on it. That's the thing here with CN and their toy lines. No money, no show/series and with that, again, if MOA can play their cards right on that, they can get Ben 10 back in their hands.

  • Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
    What companies do you guys think would best suit ben 10?

    @Omni-Triforcer I love the idea of Ben 10 comics done in DC Comics, would be even cooler to have crossovers with DC heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. (I can see Gwen being a WW fan girl as well)

  • @Omni-Triforcer I'm going with a Japanese anime network company/studio.

  • @Omni-Triforcer I love the idea of Ben 10 comics done in DC Comics, would be even cooler to have crossovers with DC heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. (I can see Gwen being a WW fan girl as well)

    @Rexfan1333 @Omni-Triforcer DC Comics making ben 10 comics could be fine but I would rather not let DC and/or Warner Bros themselves make Ben 10 shows since that Warner Bros is under the same umbrella as CN since that both Warner Bros and CN are part of the Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. Therefore, if DC or Warners Bros make a Ben 10 show, the series might end up being back in CN's hands again. Again, DC Comics making Ben 10 could be fine to do. Just something I want to mention here as well.

  • im thinking how exactly would MOA get the rights to ben 10 back? i highly doubt CN would give the rights to a potentially great show that is ben 10 and if the reboot fails whats stopping them from trying again and again (besides what fans want and lets be honest they arent listening to fans anymore)

    @Omni-Triforcer I wouldn't want Ben 10 just be fan service, it's just CN doesn't care and are making Ben 10 for the toys. I feel if CN cared about the series as well as the story and characters enough (which they don't, they haven't done any thing for the 10 year Omniversary) the series would be great like it was before the sequels.

  • @Omni-Triforcer I wouldn't want Ben 10 just be fan service, it's just CN doesn't care and are making Ben 10 for the toys. I feel if CN cared about the series as well as the story and characters enough (which they don't, they haven't done any thing for the 10 year Omniversary) the series would be great like it was before the sequels.

    @Rexfan1333 Agree. Even the fact that CN did nothing for the 10th Anniversary of the Ben 10 series shows just how much CN doesn't care about Ben 10. I mean like a great way to celebrate the 10th Anniversary would be to do a marathon of the Ben 10 Original Series. At least that's my way to celebrate Ben 10. Hell, the Ben 10 Club celebrated the 10th Anniversary with a live stream Anniversary Event on YouTube. We could of even had someone from MOA participate in the interview. At least that's what the Ben 10 Club tried to set up but unfortunately it wasn't able to happen. At least I got a chance to participate in an interview for the event. Either way, this series just needs to be taken out of CN's hands because they just don't treat it well anymore yet the Ben 10 Club is one of the many prominent examples that shows that there are still a lot of fans that truly care for this series and only want the best for Ben 10.

    Hell, you guys want a much better sequel to the Original Series that gives Ben 10 the justice and respect it needs and deserves, look up those Ben 10 fan fiction stories that I linked on this website. Trust me, you will be in for one hell of a great treat.

  • @Omni-Triforcer I love the idea of Ben 10 comics done in DC Comics, would be even cooler to have crossovers with DC heroes like Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. (I can see Gwen being a WW fan girl as well)

    @Rexfan1333 ive always wanted to see a ben 10 vs beast boy fight. I also just realized the Man Of Action should try to get the rights to generator rex back to.

  • I don't know if this thread is the right place to post it but this Tumblr user basically said everything I think about the haters of this reboot who keep annoying other people who want to give it a chance and probably are annoying CN and MOA too:
    Dear small minority of the Ben 10 fandom, they’re not going to cancel the reboot just because you hate it. Stop humiliating yourselves and just give up! Whether you want it or not, it will happen and the new generation of children are going to like it.

    And here's another post from the same user who describes quite well what I feel:
    Why so many people can’t understand that the reboot won’t be canceled just because they want something darker and edgier? Cartoon Network has a lot of money and they won’t stop making more just because you’ll stop watching them. Some fans genuinely like the reboot (like me) and don’t care if it’ll be lighter and sofrer or not. Many new fans are going to appear and no one is going to miss you haters! The reboot will premiere this year in most countries, just deal with it. Cartoon Network and Man of Action aren’t hearing the haters, they are following their own opinions. So… Um… Just shut up, nothing is gonna change!

    I know, he was kinda rude at the end of the text but I think he was completely right! Stop saying bad things about the reboot and just wait until October. If you hate it, just don't watch! You don't need to ruin the fun of the ones who want this reboot to succeed.

  • Ben 10: Restructuring Ben's Alien Roster

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  • Ben 10: My Idea for Malware

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    @coreofthesun Venom is a better comparison to Kevin. I wouldn't be surprised either if the creation of Ben was inspired by Peter. Makes sense to me since that Man of Action were former Marvel writers before they formed Man of Action. That's one of the things that made Ben at his best. When he's being cocky and fun-loving yet also mature and serious. This is something that I think the Original Series did well with and the sequel shows and the reboot show often fell short on. Ben was either too serious and therefore boring and uninteresting to watch or too much of a goofball and therefore became annoying and unlikable. I felt that the Original Series had a good balance between the two sides of Ben. In fact, I say that the Original Series had a good balance of a lot of things. The characters, the tone, etc. I think it also helps that Ben had Gwen by his side. I think one of Omniverse's biggest mistakes was separating Ben and Gwen. Those two just work so well together. They balance each other out. They keep each other in check. They're like Batman and Robin, or on the topic of Spider Man, like Peter Parker and Mary Jane. I think Ben doesn't work well as a character without Gwen and vice versa. It's why I don't think Ben worked well as a character in Omniverse and it's why I don't think a Gwen spin-off show would work either.
  • Ben 10: My Ideal Roster of Ben's Aliens

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    Thinking more about AmpFibian, there is a big issue with this alien that I recently realized. As I stated before, I am going to start implementing the realism factor to my list and my reason as to why. Therefore, I'm thinking of making a new page where I revise my list to factor in the realistic and believable aspect of Ben's aliens. In regards to AmpFibian, this alien has the ability to fly and float. The issue is that he looks like a jellyfish. There's no wings that he uses. There's no gliders. There's nothing that explains in a reasonable and sensible way what allows AmpFibian to fly and float in air as if he's in water. Therefore, it doesn't make AmpFibian a realistic and believable alien due to this ludicrous characteristic. If AmpFibian is fully aquatic and therefore ONLY has mobility in big enough bodies of water, then the problem is pretty much solved...except I already have Ripjaws in this list and even if Ripjaws needs water to breathe, he's still able to go out onto land while this fix for AmpFibian would greatly limit his mobility on land. I believe I stated this before as well, AmpFibian's electrical abilities would also likely cause some significant collateral damage if used in water. Hell, AmpFibian can even shock himself if he comes into contact with water. Therefore, AmpFibian is out and I'd rather keep Buzzshock in my list.
  • Ben 10 in lego dimensions?

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    @Omni-Triforcer Oh totally. I already have the game because for Back to the Future. Having Ben 10 in it would be the best thing ever.
  • My Ben 10 Video Game Idea

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    @Omni-Triforcer And I don't think and feel that the next Ben 10 show will be any good and even if it does turn out to be good, I don't think it'll end up successful enough in merchandise sales for Cartoon Network to keep it on the air and it's most likely that it'll last one or two seasons and I back that very claim up with valid evidence that greatly helps back up that claim, even though we know little about the show. There is evidence that can back up your claim but you either aren't looking hard enough or you're not even bothering to look around. Again, I don't just want to know the "what" of your argument. I want to know the "why" as well. I am giving you a guide here that can help you out. I'm getting sick and tired of you giving all these claims yet giving very little to no explanation and information to back them up and a lot of what you do explain is sheer bullshit. What makes you think that regardless of how good my game is, it'll probably have the same amount of sales? What makes you think that PlatinumGames and I will even make this game just for kids especially when 26% of all gamers are under the age of 18? What about all the Ben 10 and PlatinumGames fans out there that this game would be marketed to the most? http://www.theesa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/ESA-Essential-Facts-2015.pdf What about the next Ben 10 show? Why do you think that the next Ben 10 show will turn out to be good? Yes you can back that claim up even though there is little information that we know about the show. Why should I stop being so negative even though I provided a valid and persuasive argument on the Ben 10 remake? I made an entire page for the purpose of backing up my argument. Make an argument that can convince me that the next Ben 10 show will be good and will stay on the air even with low toy sales. What I want from you is for you to convince me. If you just want to give out the "whats," if you just want to make claims and not back them up with evidence, then ok, that's fine but it's not going to do you much good, if not no good at all. It's not going to convince many and more often than not, there's going to be many individuals out there that's going to rip your claims apart and greatly discredit them because you don't back up your claim properly and thus give it any sort of defense from that. Overall, I'm just giving you some advice that can help you a lot in the future. Edit: My problem with you isn't the very claim that you made but it's that you don't back you claims up enough. That's why I'm giving you this very advice to help you out here.