CN's treatment of Ben 10
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@Rexfan1333 That "it's a kids show" excuse is really just such a terrible and cheap way to shut people's opinions up really. At least it is to me. CN doesn't even understand what kids are really like. It's like CN just thinks that "oh, kids are kids and kids have a terrible attention span" or something of the likes. CN is making the Ben 10 reboot episodes 11 minutes long each because kids like shorter content and the same is for the Justice League Action show because it's to get children viewers right into the action. There's also just how absurdly bombed down Teen Titans Go! is just because of kid viewers. It's such obvious and absolute bullshit. Kids are kids and kids are learning what is good and bad and what is right and wrong. They are learning to understand things better and even then, there are many various examples of movies, tv shows, etc that have great and well in-depth stories, settings, characters, etc and kids just absolutely love those works because of the reasons that I listed. Examples include The Lego Movie, The Peanuts Movie, Up, Wall-E, Star Wars, the Avatar shows, the Ben 10 Original Series, the original Teen Titans and the list goes on and on. Heck, we are all living examples of what I'm describing here.
I believe CN doesn't want a Japanese company/studio to work on Ben 10 is that well, it's Japan and Japan has a different culture from that of the US. My "Bwen" topic page and the cousin romance concept that I describe, fully acceptable and allowed in Japan. Studios in Japan are not that afraid to do some pretty ballsy concepts because, well, that's Japan for you. Just take a look at their anime. I bet that CN would find that unacceptable for kid viewers even though CN doesn't understand that it's really just cultural differences and thus they shouldn't even worry at all about it. Heck, I guarantee you that a Japanese studio would most likely implement the Bwen concept into Ben 10. At least this is my take on it but it's a reason why I like Japanese culture and works so much. Because Japan is Japan and they are more willing to get a lot more creative, most of the time, it leads to some really creative and unique works of literature and entertainment media that is just not seen much from other companies; especially in the US. Heck, Dragonball Z is a kid-friendly anime show and look how crazy and extreme that show is, even when CN tried to tone down all that extreme stuff for their US viewers.
There's also the reason that CN is just being cheap and want to make their shows in the most cheap and lazy way possible and rely more on the profits that their toy lines would bring in. To them, it's all about money at this point and having a Japanese studio work on Ben 10 would probably be expensive to do. A part of me feels as if this reboot should fail just so Man of Action can get the Ben 10 series away from CN and find a better and much more suitable company to work on the series. A company that would give Ben 10 much more respect, passion, effort, and care than CN. That is if Man of Action can play their cards right.
@Tactical-Ochoa gotta love Japan, they know what people want, to see Ben 10 get animated by those amazing studios would be amazing, I can see Bwen happen as well if they make it. It would be cool to see Toonami show it as well. (I'm so happy they brought it back)
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if the reboot fails i really do hope that man of action takes ben 10 away from cn i dont want to see cartoon networks failure end the ben 10 franchise forever.
@Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I feel Ben 10 has so much potential to be one of the most amazing shows out there if done right. (Anime always has the most beautiful stories and are not afraid to hold back on cool action scenes)
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@Tactical-Ochoa gotta love Japan, they know what people want, to see Ben 10 get animated by those amazing studios would be amazing, I can see Bwen happen as well if they make it. It would be cool to see Toonami show it as well. (I'm so happy they brought it back)
@Rexfan1333 Heck, one of the reasons I want to work with PlatinumGames on my Ben 10 video game idea is because I feel that I want to work with a Japanese game studio. Because of the Japanese culture and its influence on their literature and entertainment media works, I feel that I would have the most creative freedom and capability working in a Japanese game production studio than a game studio in the US and anywhere else.
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I agree I hope man of action leaves cartoonetwork also the reason I like studio madhouse they made a anime I like called hellsing
@KorseBLI-ND loved Hellsing Ultimate.
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@Rexfan1333 Heck, one of the reasons I want to work with PlatinumGames on my Ben 10 video game idea is because I feel that I want to work with a Japanese game studio. Because of the Japanese culture and its influence on their literature and entertainment media works, I feel that I would have the most creative freedom and capability working in a Japanese game production studio than a game studio in the US and anywhere else.
@Tactical-Ochoa Hope you get the chance on this game, a lot of fans would love to see it happen. (me included)
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@Tactical-Ochoa Hope you get the chance on this game, a lot of fans would love to see it happen. (me included)
@Rexfan1333 Well, at the moment, I just have to learn to speak and understand Japanese in order to fulfill the minimum requirements to be able to apply at PlatinumGames. Trying to gather up some resources to help get me started. It'll take a while but it's definitely a goal that I really want to pull off and succeed in achieving here.
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@Rexfan1333 Well, at the moment, I just have to learn to speak and understand Japanese in order to fulfill the minimum requirements to be able to apply at PlatinumGames. Trying to gather up some resources to help get me started. It'll take a while but it's definitely a goal that I really want to pull off and succeed in achieving here.
@Tactical-Ochoa Good luck, I'm pretty sure you can get the language. You seem really dedicated and I like that.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Good luck, I'm pretty sure you can get the language. You seem really dedicated and I like that.
@Rexfan1333 Yeah. I just got to find the time in between my school and work schedule to put in the effort to learn the language.
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@Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.
@Rexfan1333 said:
@Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.
I'm 47 and still a big animation fan.
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I know it not much of a idea, but Ben 10 makes a lot of money and can hire amazing Artist (nothing against the Derrick Wyatt, but his styles just didn't work for Ben 10 IMO, but I respect him as a artist), but CN seem is so cheap to do so, I have nothing against the reboot, but I wonder why CN never hire artist like Phil Bourassa or even the artist for Generator Rex to do Omniverse is beyond me or even a Japanese company like Madhouse Studios or Bones studios can make Ben 10 even more amazing. (the Japanese know how to market to kids and are amazing character designers IMO)
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@Rexfan1333
While I'm generally not a big fan of Japanese animation I"d give it a chance....They can't do worse than CN has so far. -
@car54 Yeah, I'm pretty sure any company can make Ben 10 epic. CN just became super greedy and only want money, they don't care about animation anymore.
@Rexfan1333 Agree.
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Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
What companies do you guys think would best suit ben 10?10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
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Agree i feel just about anyone can do better then what cn has been doing. Heck i would be fine with disney taking on Ben 10 and going the gravity falls route (although i wouldnt prefer it). I would love to see a japanese company take on ben 10. It would also be cool to see ben 10 in dc comics since his comics were published under dc i believe.
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really! I have always said ben 10 has so much potential for great stories, great characters, and a great universe overall it just needs to get into the hands of someone who will actually care for it.
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@Omni-Triforcer
A Disney style version of them would be interesting, but I really like the DC idea.
There are a lot of Ben 10 pics on deviantart that are better than what CN has done since the end of the original series.@car54 Hell, I've seen Ben 10 fan art that's even better than the Original Series artwork.
@Omni-Triforcer I know. That's something that I really want for Ben 10. To get it out of CN's hands and be put into a different network company that will give the series much more respect, passion, effort, and care into it. Ben 10 always had a lot of potential. The problem is that CN isn't properly utilizing that potential. I've even said it over and over again. Make a reboot that acts as a sequel to the Original Series. Let Man of Action take the series down the route that they intended for it to take. If CN isn't going to give Ben 10 the proper treatment it needs, then like I said before, it would probably be better for the reboot to fail anyways so that if MOA plays their cards right, they could get the series out of CN's hands and go make Ben 10 great again.
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im thinking how exactly would MOA get the rights to ben 10 back? i highly doubt CN would give the rights to a potentially great show that is ben 10 and if the reboot fails whats stopping them from trying again and again (besides what fans want and lets be honest they arent listening to fans anymore)
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@car54 Hell, I've seen Ben 10 fan art that's even better than the Original Series artwork.
@Omni-Triforcer I know. That's something that I really want for Ben 10. To get it out of CN's hands and be put into a different network company that will give the series much more respect, passion, effort, and care into it. Ben 10 always had a lot of potential. The problem is that CN isn't properly utilizing that potential. I've even said it over and over again. Make a reboot that acts as a sequel to the Original Series. Let Man of Action take the series down the route that they intended for it to take. If CN isn't going to give Ben 10 the proper treatment it needs, then like I said before, it would probably be better for the reboot to fail anyways so that if MOA plays their cards right, they could get the series out of CN's hands and go make Ben 10 great again.
@Tactical-Ochoa
I agree some of the art is even better than the original series. and a lot of the pics of them as teens look more like the original characters aged up than what we saw in AF.
I'd love to see MoA follow through with their original plan for a sequel series.
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