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Ben 10 reboot: A positives discussion

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  • OffbeatcatO

    I decided to check in on the place after about a year or so. Shock of shocks, nothing's changed. Ochoa's still a jerk who wants everyone to share his opinion, and tries to make anyone who disagrees feel small and insignificant. This discussion is to talk about the best aspects of this reboot. If you've got a positive thing to say, say it.

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • OffbeatcatO

    The reboot does multiple renditions of the same alien transformation, doing it in different ways for no good reason. This may be a minor detail, but it's a little thing that wasn't required, but was done anyways.

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • Ungrateful-WolfU

    I feel that Ben and Gwen actually are developing. Unlike OS where they were nice to each other rarely and I felt I could watch episodes out of order with how little progress there was in their relationship, I was so relieved and so glad to see not only Gwen feeling genuine remorse and sympathy for Ben when she realized she was wrong about doubting, but Ben genuinely valued her input and support, openly so.
    It's so great to see that they can be cousins, live under the same (car) roof for the summer, bicker like siblings and show care, but OPENLY show care, and episodes like the S1 finale show they care about each other JUST AS MUCH as in OG, if not more.

    Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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  • OffbeatcatO

    I appreciate Ben's reckless upgrading of the omnitrix having long term consequences. in a sense, vilgax was right. Ben couldn't control shock rock, and paid the price, almost losing everything.

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • OffbeatcatO

    Something positive is that the reboot has given us a vague idea of how the omnitrix functions. May not be super clear, but we have some things to use in drawing our own conclusions.

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • OffbeatcatO Offbeatcat

    Something positive is that the reboot has given us a vague idea of how the omnitrix functions. May not be super clear, but we have some things to use in drawing our own conclusions.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @offbeatcat And none of the other Ben 10 shows didn't do this already?

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  • Tactical OchoaT Tactical Ochoa

    @offbeatcat And none of the other Ben 10 shows didn't do this already?

    OffbeatcatO

    @tactical-ochoa In this canon. This is meant to be a POSITIVE channel

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • OffbeatcatO Offbeatcat

    @tactical-ochoa In this canon. This is meant to be a POSITIVE channel

    Tactical OchoaT

    @offbeatcat It's still nothing new in this franchise. We've already got vague ideas on how the Omnitrix functions in the previous Ben 10 shows. The previous Ben 10 shows already tackled Ben's recklessness and the negative consequences that they create. The difference is that in the reboot, Ben either barely or never learns from his actions as he makes a trend of often making the same mistakes over and over. The reboot doing multiple renditions of the same alien transformations? Pretty sure that was already done before in the other Ben 10 shows. Ungrateful-Wolf stating how he felt that Ben and Gwen actually are developing? Pretty much everything that he described has already been done before in the previous shows. Just on a much better level because no Ben and Gwen don't actually develop and grow as characters in the reboot. They still remain in the same state as characters that they started off at back when the reboot first premiered. Again, Ben keeps repeating the same mistakes and keeps behaving the same way since the very first episode. A character that does that didn't go through proper character development and growth. It doesn't matter if the reboot is in a different canon. These things have already been done before and done so in a much better way.

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  • Tactical OchoaT Tactical Ochoa

    @offbeatcat It's still nothing new in this franchise. We've already got vague ideas on how the Omnitrix functions in the previous Ben 10 shows. The previous Ben 10 shows already tackled Ben's recklessness and the negative consequences that they create. The difference is that in the reboot, Ben either barely or never learns from his actions as he makes a trend of often making the same mistakes over and over. The reboot doing multiple renditions of the same alien transformations? Pretty sure that was already done before in the other Ben 10 shows. Ungrateful-Wolf stating how he felt that Ben and Gwen actually are developing? Pretty much everything that he described has already been done before in the previous shows. Just on a much better level because no Ben and Gwen don't actually develop and grow as characters in the reboot. They still remain in the same state as characters that they started off at back when the reboot first premiered. Again, Ben keeps repeating the same mistakes and keeps behaving the same way since the very first episode. A character that does that didn't go through proper character development and growth. It doesn't matter if the reboot is in a different canon. These things have already been done before and done so in a much better way.

    OffbeatcatO

    @tactical-ochoa This is a positivity channel. Keep your negative remarks in some other channel.

    Nobody gets to choose how it happens.

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  • npzmanN

    Should the Ben 10 reboot be a in-universe fictional accounts of the original Ben 10 Continuity ?

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    npzmanN
    It could be a very inaccurate retelling of the original series with a few twists and turns. The reboot show could be a thing long after Ben Prime's death or during Ben 10k where Ben wouldn't be cocky and would give information and stuff for the show.
  • ?

    Is Ben 10 dead?

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    @Ben-10-Fan I still think they can turn it around and improve the reboot, I'm still not sure that the Gwen spin off is even being made, but I hope so. It might help the franchise.
  • ?

    Whats going on with Ben 10 Reboot Rocks?

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    EbomnitrixE
    Its like they're trying to take what little Ben 10 fanbase has left, like legit we need a place to express our opinions and everything for the show. So if this site goes, then so does one of its groups of remaining fandom it has left, aside Ben10FanFiction.
  • ?

    Will the Reboot be the last Ben 10 series?

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    KorseBLI-NDK
    with me the reason I did not like alien force and ultimate alien was it seem like they did not watch the original series plus the gwevin pairing plus have kevin as a good guy
  • Tactical OchoaT

    The Ben 10 Series

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    @chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important. Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that. That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network. As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.