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Ben 10 reboot: A positives discussion

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  • I decided to check in on the place after about a year or so. Shock of shocks, nothing's changed. Ochoa's still a jerk who wants everyone to share his opinion, and tries to make anyone who disagrees feel small and insignificant. This discussion is to talk about the best aspects of this reboot. If you've got a positive thing to say, say it.

  • The reboot does multiple renditions of the same alien transformation, doing it in different ways for no good reason. This may be a minor detail, but it's a little thing that wasn't required, but was done anyways.

  • I feel that Ben and Gwen actually are developing. Unlike OS where they were nice to each other rarely and I felt I could watch episodes out of order with how little progress there was in their relationship, I was so relieved and so glad to see not only Gwen feeling genuine remorse and sympathy for Ben when she realized she was wrong about doubting, but Ben genuinely valued her input and support, openly so.
    It's so great to see that they can be cousins, live under the same (car) roof for the summer, bicker like siblings and show care, but OPENLY show care, and episodes like the S1 finale show they care about each other JUST AS MUCH as in OG, if not more.

  • I appreciate Ben's reckless upgrading of the omnitrix having long term consequences. in a sense, vilgax was right. Ben couldn't control shock rock, and paid the price, almost losing everything.

  • Something positive is that the reboot has given us a vague idea of how the omnitrix functions. May not be super clear, but we have some things to use in drawing our own conclusions.

  • Something positive is that the reboot has given us a vague idea of how the omnitrix functions. May not be super clear, but we have some things to use in drawing our own conclusions.

    @offbeatcat And none of the other Ben 10 shows didn't do this already?

  • @offbeatcat And none of the other Ben 10 shows didn't do this already?

    @tactical-ochoa In this canon. This is meant to be a POSITIVE channel

  • @tactical-ochoa In this canon. This is meant to be a POSITIVE channel

    @offbeatcat It's still nothing new in this franchise. We've already got vague ideas on how the Omnitrix functions in the previous Ben 10 shows. The previous Ben 10 shows already tackled Ben's recklessness and the negative consequences that they create. The difference is that in the reboot, Ben either barely or never learns from his actions as he makes a trend of often making the same mistakes over and over. The reboot doing multiple renditions of the same alien transformations? Pretty sure that was already done before in the other Ben 10 shows. Ungrateful-Wolf stating how he felt that Ben and Gwen actually are developing? Pretty much everything that he described has already been done before in the previous shows. Just on a much better level because no Ben and Gwen don't actually develop and grow as characters in the reboot. They still remain in the same state as characters that they started off at back when the reboot first premiered. Again, Ben keeps repeating the same mistakes and keeps behaving the same way since the very first episode. A character that does that didn't go through proper character development and growth. It doesn't matter if the reboot is in a different canon. These things have already been done before and done so in a much better way.

  • @offbeatcat It's still nothing new in this franchise. We've already got vague ideas on how the Omnitrix functions in the previous Ben 10 shows. The previous Ben 10 shows already tackled Ben's recklessness and the negative consequences that they create. The difference is that in the reboot, Ben either barely or never learns from his actions as he makes a trend of often making the same mistakes over and over. The reboot doing multiple renditions of the same alien transformations? Pretty sure that was already done before in the other Ben 10 shows. Ungrateful-Wolf stating how he felt that Ben and Gwen actually are developing? Pretty much everything that he described has already been done before in the previous shows. Just on a much better level because no Ben and Gwen don't actually develop and grow as characters in the reboot. They still remain in the same state as characters that they started off at back when the reboot first premiered. Again, Ben keeps repeating the same mistakes and keeps behaving the same way since the very first episode. A character that does that didn't go through proper character development and growth. It doesn't matter if the reboot is in a different canon. These things have already been done before and done so in a much better way.

    @tactical-ochoa This is a positivity channel. Keep your negative remarks in some other channel.

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    @Rexfan1333 That's another thing. I don't hate the reboot's art style either. I just don't like it and I just give it a lot of criticism. With Cartoon Network, we're now at a point where this is just unacceptable because like you said, Cartoon Network's reasons for wanting to go for these types of art styles is bullshit and they and their artists and animators are really just being cheap and lazy here. Like I said, it likely won't even matter that much to many if the story and writing is at least going to be good because the artwork and animation quality alone can turn many viewers away from the reboot. Having a strong story and writing is very much important but so is having some great quality artwork and animations. Artwork that can set the stage for the settings, environments, characters, etc. Animations that can deliver on many of the scenes that we're going to be seeing here. How are viewers supposed to be able to get invested with Ben developing as a character when he looks like crap? How are viewers going to be able to get invested in Ben's aliens if at least some of them look ugly and/or don't even look that much alien at all? How are any of the action scenes going to be good and memorable if the animation quality doesn't back them up? Yes I know we haven't seen any action scenes yet. It's just a point that I want to make. Overall, if they're going to have a strong and memorable story, setting, characters, scenes, etc, then they need to be able to be backed up well by a good quality art style and animations. Otherwise, there would be a chance that things can fall flat pretty badly. Just imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra looking like the Ben 10 reboot or the PPG reboot or Teen Titans Go! or Clarence. Imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra having the lower quality animation work that Cartoon Network Studios is being more known of making. Even with a strong story and characters and all that stuff, those two shows would fall flat pretty badly. Imagine the Ben 10 Original Series having this type of art style and/or this quality of animations. We would more likely not be looking up to the Original Series as much as we did back then and still do and Ben 10 would more likely not have been able to be as successful as it was back then. Omniverse had some good story aspects and moments to it but the art style and animation quality doesn't help to hold those good story aspects and moments up that well. I previously thought that story, writing, characters and all that stuff are more important than visuals but really the visuals of a show, movie, video game, etc are really just as equally important. Everything needs to be able to work and blend together seamlessly and very well. If one of those seams hits a snag and breaks, chances are that everything can fall apart either quickly or eventually. Just something that I want to point out. A strong story is very much important but just as equally so does that apply to having strong visuals and animations as well.
  • Voice actors in the Ben 10 Reboot?

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    @Mortie-10 I'm not sure about Tara and Magen are returning, but I wouldn't mind them returning honestly. I would love to see a different portrayal of Ben and Gwen. It is a reboot after all.