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    Do people really care about Samurai coming back

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    Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun

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  • Ultimate OmniTriU

    Man that episode was great.

    10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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  • Tactical OchoaT

    Episode 2 came out last night. Any thoughts?

    For me, damn. Just...damn.

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  • Tactical OchoaT Tactical Ochoa

    Episode 2 came out last night. Any thoughts?

    For me, damn. Just...damn.

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    @Tactical-Ochoa Man that was Epic.

    Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun

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  • Tactical OchoaT

    It's really neat seeing Aku again as well. Greg Baldwin does do a good enough job with the role. The only criticism I can really give with his performance as Aku is that the voice sounds a little deeper than the original but that's just really it. Considering that the original Aku voice actor, Makoto Iwamatsu, passed away, it was clear that we're obviously not going to have the original voice back, which is a shame. Still, it was a good call to bring in Greg Baldwin since that he's pretty much the next best choice for Aku due to him taking over for Mako's other voice roles. Again, he does a good enough job making sure to make the writing work and thus still be able to make sure that Aku is still the same Aku we all know and love. Also, god that segment of the episode with Aku is freakin hilarious. I busted up.

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  • Tactical OchoaT Tactical Ochoa

    It's really neat seeing Aku again as well. Greg Baldwin does do a good enough job with the role. The only criticism I can really give with his performance as Aku is that the voice sounds a little deeper than the original but that's just really it. Considering that the original Aku voice actor, Makoto Iwamatsu, passed away, it was clear that we're obviously not going to have the original voice back, which is a shame. Still, it was a good call to bring in Greg Baldwin since that he's pretty much the next best choice for Aku due to him taking over for Mako's other voice roles. Again, he does a good enough job making sure to make the writing work and thus still be able to make sure that Aku is still the same Aku we all know and love. Also, god that segment of the episode with Aku is freakin hilarious. I busted up.

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    @Tactical-Ochoa The Aku scene was the funniest scene during the whole episode.

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  • ? A Former User

    @Tactical-Ochoa The Aku scene was the funniest scene during the whole episode.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 Yeah, like I said, I busted up into laughter. It's such an Aku moment and it was great.

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  • EbomnitrixE

    Actually something you should know
    Greg plays Aku in Fusionfall as him, so technically its like he reprised his role in a way.
    Also I'm so glad that Aku is still the same villain he was before, I mean despite the show has turned darker in a unique way, which we all love, Aku is still the cartoony Aku he was before... only he's just now depressed that he's still alive.

    It's Action Time!

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  • EbomnitrixE Ebomnitrix

    Actually something you should know
    Greg plays Aku in Fusionfall as him, so technically its like he reprised his role in a way.
    Also I'm so glad that Aku is still the same villain he was before, I mean despite the show has turned darker in a unique way, which we all love, Aku is still the cartoony Aku he was before... only he's just now depressed that he's still alive.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Ebomnitrix Well, he wouldn't be Aku if that wasn't the case. If you're going to have Aku in Samurai Jack, he has to be freakin Aku.

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  • ?

    What do you guys think will happen this season? I think that Jack somehow will get his sword back and fight that mysterious horse figure in the middle of the season. I also think Ashi and Jack will join forces, and maybe that wolf or whatever it was will survive and join Jack too. And I think Jack and Aku will have a showdown in episode 9 and Jack going back to the past and destroys Aku in one final battle in episode 10.

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  • ? A Former User

    What do you guys think will happen this season? I think that Jack somehow will get his sword back and fight that mysterious horse figure in the middle of the season. I also think Ashi and Jack will join forces, and maybe that wolf or whatever it was will survive and join Jack too. And I think Jack and Aku will have a showdown in episode 9 and Jack going back to the past and destroys Aku in one final battle in episode 10.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 In regards to the mysterious horse figure, I don't think that's something that Jack is going to fight physically but instead mentally. I think that mysterious horse figure is just part of Jack's mental instability, symbolizing how Jack lost his ways or something. Maybe the mysterious horse figure is supposed to symbolize Jack's destiny calling back to him or something.

    Maybe Ashi and Jack could team up. That's a possibility that came to mind for me. I doubt the wolf is going to survive though.

    As for the final showdown, that depends. Aku mentioned that he destroyed all of the portals that lead back to the past and even Jack is aware of this. Now did Aku destroy all of them? Maybe. The one that the Guardian was protecting could still be up and both Jack and Aku aren't aware of this. Plus, Jack is destined to use that very time portal.

    For me, I'm not entirely sure how this season is going to end. It could end with Jack finally returning back to the past and therefore we get more of a happy ending or he could remain stuck in the future and therefore could die after finally defeating Aku. Those are the two best directions that I thought of that they could go and it feels like this season is setting itself up for that.

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  • ?

    Anyone seen episode 3? I think the episode was fantastic. I knew the wolf would survive and I really believe Ahsi will join Jack after a while now. The fight against the sisters was intense. And maybe your right Tactical Ochoa, the mysterious horse figure is most probably something Jack has to fight mentally. Overall this is the best episode I have seen so far.

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  • ? A Former User

    Anyone seen episode 3? I think the episode was fantastic. I knew the wolf would survive and I really believe Ahsi will join Jack after a while now. The fight against the sisters was intense. And maybe your right Tactical Ochoa, the mysterious horse figure is most probably something Jack has to fight mentally. Overall this is the best episode I have seen so far.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 Well, look at that. The wolf did survive after all. Nice. And hold up there buddy. There's still 7 more episodes left. Who knows what's nest that they have planned in store for us.

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  • Tactical OchoaT

    So I looked up the Daughters of Aku and apparently Tara Strong voiced Ashi and Avi while Kari Dahlgren voiced Ami and Aki.

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  • ?

    Im looking forward too see The Scotsman again.

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  • ? A Former User

    Im looking forward too see The Scotsman again.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 Season 5 takes place 50 years after season 4. I doubt the Scotsman's coming back.

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  • ?

    But I saw him in a trailer.

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  • ? A Former User

    But I saw him in a trailer.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 Really? I didn't notice him. Link?

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  • ? A Former User

    But I saw him in a trailer.

    Tactical OchoaT

    @Mortie-10 Saw the trailer and looked up the Scotsman on the Samurai Jack wiki. Huh, I guess he is going to be in Season 5. Cool.

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  • ?

    An interview with Greg Baldwin about Aku.
    https://dotandline.net/samurai-jack-greg-baldwin-new-aku-interview-mako-21ee0139bd34

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  • npzmanN

    5 Years Later

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    @Tactical-Ochoa I read the series about a year ago and I must say that it is incredibly well written especially considering that it is a fanfiction. While I’m personally not a Bwen shipper (I always saw their relationship akin to a bond between close siblings) the entire Little Moments universe is incredibly well written and there are little things in it which just contribute so much to the narrative (eg. Ben’s relationship with his parents, something I really thought should’ve been explored in Alien Force). I’ve been thinking for a while about starting on a fan comic exploring an alternate timeline of the events of Alien Force. The Highbreed arc would still happen similarly and Ben would have to don the Omnitrix for the first time in years. There would be a few differences though - the first of which being that I’d try and explore the possibilities of Charmcaster being the one to (at first grudgingly) have to work with Ben and Gwen but eventually softening and becoming a better person over time despite being haunted by her past. I always thought that it would be an interesting idea to have Kevin as a vigilante or even a villain - I’ve been reading some Batman comics recently and I really think that Ben and Kevin could have an interesting Batman-Joker dynamic between them. One of the key themes of Alien Force was meant to be Ben becoming leader but he didn’t really have a proper team to lead for the majority of the time, so I thought that involving Cooper and Alan in the story could work well - with the other Plumber’s kids being introduced later down the line. I’m not a super talented artist (though I can draw decently and have done a few concept sketches ) and while I have written decent short stories for fun before this would be way tougher. Everything is just ideas and brainstorms right now given that I don’t have too much time on my hands at the moment.. Just thought that I’d share the idea.
  • OffbeatcatO

    Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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    I'm pretty neutral on my thoughts about the reboot. It's not for me and I understand that some people have enjoyed watching it so I don't like to constantly whine and complain about it. But for me it does not match up to the writing in the Prime continuity, especially not to the original series which the reboot shares so many characters and concepts with. I was looking at parent reviews of OS Ben 10 on the slightly infamous site "Common Sense Media" out of boredom today since I only have one exam left. And what I read has led me to believe that there is a huge reason why the reboot seems to be restraining itself when it comes to everything to storytelling to character development to the transformation sequences and even the art style: because CN don't want the parents to be concerned and then ban their kids from watching the show (which would lead to less toy sales and profit). I will say that there are a great deal of parents who do approve of and highly recommend the show and deem it perfectly watchable for kids, although sometimes it may be worth having the parents watch it with them. However, there are also some parents who do not like the OS at all. Many seemed to be concerned that because the show had so many action scenes and admittedly brutal fight scenes, it would lead to their kids becoming violent because the kids couldn't differentiate between reality and fiction. They also seemed to despise how the relationship between Ben and Gwen was presented and how Ben was not a good role model for children due to his cockiness and immaturity. The alien designs also seemed to strike a nerve because they looked like (I quote) "something straight out of hell" and apparently some were far too scary. To all of that, my main response would be that Ben 10 was never meant to be a show just for kids, which seems to be a mistaken impression shared by many parents. It was made first and foremost to be an engaging and compelling show for all ages, with the main target demographic being 10-14 year olds - so not little kids. Yes there is violence but it is not graphic and in my view is necessary to an extent given that it is an action show. The relationship between Gwen and Ben is presented in a very realistic way rather than a 'candy' way (as I read someone saying on the website in defence of the show). They argue and bicker like siblings and are indeed imperfect characters but they do grow throughout the show and actually end up being more relateable for those watching who also aren't perfect. As for the alien designs, well, they're meant to be aliens and not superheroes in suits. Of course they're going to be weird looking and occasionally intimidating. I always thought that the designs were great even when I was much younger. So my conclusion from this? The opinions of a significant portion of parents (as I imagine that these views would be echoed outside of review websites) explain A LOT of the changes which we saw the reboot. The alien designs were changed to look more humanoid and less alien looking and "scary", and the art style was made simpler with a brighter colour pallet to stop younger kids getting scared. Ben and Gwen's relationship showed them getting along for the vast majority of the time to apparently set a better example to kids. The fight scenes are far more toned down and less creative than the original series. The villains are not as intimidating and there aren't significant consequences. One of the major reasons for so many of the reboot's changes is because the network wanted to cash in on the viewership of the younger end of their demographic of 5-10 years old, and so toned down the show so that their parents did not prevent them from watching. This might explain why a lot of Cartoon Network's shows are toning it down these days especially when compared to the mid 200s era. I'm really not trying to diss the parents here and I totally empathise with their concern for their children's wellbeing. Parenting can be rough at times (or so I am told by my parents). For me the solution would be to have sensible discussion with the kids and allow them to understand that lets say, Ben only fights against criminals or other really bad people and never used his aliens to attack anyone else . The misconception of 'all cartoons being for kids' often leads parents to make the mistake of allowing their young children to watch animated programmes which may be too complex or dark for their age, and then with the parents subsequently blaming the programme, it leads to CN making things more younger kid friendly at the cost of alienating the older side of their fanbase. For me, my parents were always cool with me watching Ben 10 as long as I didn't watch too much TV and as far as I remember I never developed behaviour problems while watching the show. In fact I'd think it's the opposite - I thought of Ben as a great role model while growing up, and the fact that he was imperfect only made me relate to him more.
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    The reboot's second season

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    I loved it. Then again in love everything Marvel.
  • EbomnitrixE

    Ben 10 Reboot Trailer & Footage Discussion

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    @Rexfan1333 That's another thing. I don't hate the reboot's art style either. I just don't like it and I just give it a lot of criticism. With Cartoon Network, we're now at a point where this is just unacceptable because like you said, Cartoon Network's reasons for wanting to go for these types of art styles is bullshit and they and their artists and animators are really just being cheap and lazy here. Like I said, it likely won't even matter that much to many if the story and writing is at least going to be good because the artwork and animation quality alone can turn many viewers away from the reboot. Having a strong story and writing is very much important but so is having some great quality artwork and animations. Artwork that can set the stage for the settings, environments, characters, etc. Animations that can deliver on many of the scenes that we're going to be seeing here. How are viewers supposed to be able to get invested with Ben developing as a character when he looks like crap? How are viewers going to be able to get invested in Ben's aliens if at least some of them look ugly and/or don't even look that much alien at all? How are any of the action scenes going to be good and memorable if the animation quality doesn't back them up? Yes I know we haven't seen any action scenes yet. It's just a point that I want to make. Overall, if they're going to have a strong and memorable story, setting, characters, scenes, etc, then they need to be able to be backed up well by a good quality art style and animations. Otherwise, there would be a chance that things can fall flat pretty badly. Just imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra looking like the Ben 10 reboot or the PPG reboot or Teen Titans Go! or Clarence. Imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra having the lower quality animation work that Cartoon Network Studios is being more known of making. Even with a strong story and characters and all that stuff, those two shows would fall flat pretty badly. Imagine the Ben 10 Original Series having this type of art style and/or this quality of animations. We would more likely not be looking up to the Original Series as much as we did back then and still do and Ben 10 would more likely not have been able to be as successful as it was back then. Omniverse had some good story aspects and moments to it but the art style and animation quality doesn't help to hold those good story aspects and moments up that well. I previously thought that story, writing, characters and all that stuff are more important than visuals but really the visuals of a show, movie, video game, etc are really just as equally important. Everything needs to be able to work and blend together seamlessly and very well. If one of those seams hits a snag and breaks, chances are that everything can fall apart either quickly or eventually. Just something that I want to point out. A strong story is very much important but just as equally so does that apply to having strong visuals and animations as well.