Artwork and a New Alien
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reboot wins in the coolness contest
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@chronosapien234 Which looks better? Not cooler. Better.
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I say that they both look really cool, and neither one is better
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@chronosapien234 You said that the reboot looks cooler. Now you say that both look really cool. Let me ask this again. Which art design looks better? I'm not accepting neither as an answer. Here's another thing. What about other fans? How would other fans react to the reboot artwork? What would other fans say looks better? I have seen the responses of many other fans and most of the responses to the art design of the reboot are negative. Again, neither is an acceptable answer for me. Even by the slimmest margin, which art design is better? The reboot or the Original Series?
Here's another point to make. Cartoon Network wants to make a reboot of the Ben 10 Original Series. Cartoon Network wants to make a reboot of a multi-billion dollar, Emmy award winning cartoon show that was marked as one of Cartoon Network's best shows on the channel. If that's what Cartoon Network wants to do, then this reboot better very much impress viewers. I don't think it even matters if this reboot turns out to be good. If it ends up being worse than the Original Series, there is a highly likely chance that there's going to be problems that are going to spark here. If this reboot does not deliver, and it's very likely to be the case, hen it is going to backfire on Cartoon Network pretty badly. That is one of the major reasons why I'm arguing for a reboot of the Ben 10 sequels. A reboot of Alien Force. To convince Cartoon Network to let Man of Action make Ben 10 Hero Generation. That approach grants better opportunities and more benefits than rebooting the Original Series. It's the right approach for Ben 10.
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well if you want me to be honest, I would say that the new artwork makes the aliens look a little better
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@chronosapien234 Ok. I'm fine with your opinion then. I don't agree with it but I'm fine with it. To me, the reboot art design doesn't look bad but it is not suitable and fitting for Ben 10. It doesn't look bad but it doesn't look good either. The flash art approach of this design is not going to work with this show and its elements. If you like it, that's fine but most fans don't like this reboot art design and are even negative towards it. Not even Man of Action likes this reboot and wants to make it. As I stated in chat, Man of Action agrees with me. They don't want to make this reboot. They don't like the approach that's being taken. If the creators of Ben 10 don't like this reboot themselves and agree with my argument, then that will just further factor into the likelihood that this reboot will fail.
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I agree tactical the style would not fit ben 10
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Exactly and here's another thing. While I am willing to take chronosapien234's words on the information of the artwork for the reboot and credit him for the info until I see the artwork myself (either from him or anyone else), I'm still not giving a full 100% confirmation that this information about the artwork is true. It's highly likely to be true and it does sound right for the reboot but I'm still not granting a full 100% confirmation. I would still encourage anyone that reads this topic page to take the information with a grain of salt. To announce the information to others but at the same time warn them of the possibilities that this information of the artwork is false. I'm not trying to be mean here. That is just how I operate when it comes to information and news. I don't accept this as confirmed until I get something that officially confirms the information. If chronosapien234 doesn't want to show the artwork, that's fine but again, I'm not giving it a full confirmation. In regards to the reboot artwork, I need to see it for myself to know whether or not it's actually true and right.
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That is what I am doing I am taking the info with a salt shaker just I don't really want to get my hopes up
Keep running
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@KorseBLI-ND There is a high chance that this information about the artwork is true but it's just not a full 100% yet. Just exercise caution with it yet still be optimistic. That's really all I want to recommend that people should do.
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Okay will do
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I am telling you that it is the truth!!!
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@chronosapien234 Dude, again, I'm willing to take your word for it but just saying that the information is true is not enough. Until I see the artwork for myself (again, either from you or another source), I'm not giving a full 100% confirmation that it is true. Saying that it is true is not enough for me and therefore, I am just going to notify people to be cautious of your info and inform and warn them that there is a possibility that the info isn't true. That is just how I am. Until I see the actual official artwork from someone, I am not giving a full 100% confirmation that your information is true. That is just how I am. If anyone else believes that your info is true, then that's fine with me because that's their choice. Me, I'm just being cautious yet optimistic here.
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@chronosapien234 You know what, I missed one more thing that I wanted to ask you about. You say that the reboot artwork looks cooler and makes the aliens look a little better. Why? Why does the new artwork for the reboot look cooler that the art design of the Original Series? Why does making the aliens look more human in the reboot make them look a little better when compared to their designs in the Original Series? Why? Why do you think that the reboot art design is better than that of the Original Series?
Again, I'm fine if you like the reboot artwork better. I just want to know why. Don't just give me a "just because" answer either. Be a critic. Be an analyzer. Build your argument. Think carefully on your response and answer.
What I would also like to know is that since you like the reboot artwork better than the Original Series art design, how does the flash art approach to the reboot's art design prove to be better than the western animation used for the Original Series that was based off of Japanese anime? How is flash art better than western anime? Feel free to read my response to GoodVibes1999 where I argue why western anime is better to use for Ben 10 than flash art and again, think carefully and thoroughly on building your argument up.
Take your time and I don't mind if your response is long. Even if I disagree with you, at least I will have a better understanding of your views.
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To be honest, I think that the new artwork kind of does what our animation did to original pokemon.
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@chronosapien234 Pokemon? What do you mean by that and what does Pokemon have to do with Ben 10? Can you please further explain this if you can?
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@chronosapien234 So are you saying that you like the Ben 10 Reboot artwork because it looks like the Pokemon cartoon show?
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No @Tactical-Ochoa , I am saying that the new series makes things look more simplistic.
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@chronosapien234 Ok so what, are you implying that the Original Series and the Ben 10 sequels were not simplistic? Pokemon is simplistic? Just so you know, Pokemon is a lot more complex than you think; especially considering the sheer and very large variety of the various Pokemon that scatter the world. Here's another thing, this is Ben 10. It is simplistic yet very much complex. In fact, in regards to the art design, as I stated before, the reboot art design is too cartoony. For an action show, you don't really want an art design that is simplistic that much because as I stated before flash art does not work with most action shows. Especially when it comes to Ben 10. It needs the more complex yet very flexible western anime yet western anime is also surprisingly simplistic as well. It's fine if the reboot art design wants to be simplistic but the problem here is that it's too simplistic. The Original Series art design may be complex but it is also simplistic as well. Again, western anime is flexible and is able to be both complex and simplistic. Flash art is just mostly simplistic. The reboot art design is too simplistic for Ben 10.
Again, I'm fine with what your views are. I disagree with them but I also understand them. Ben 10 is supposed to be both complex and simplistic. To have a style and elements that are complex yet easy to understand. It needs an art design that works with both complexity and simplicity and that is what western animation is there for and that is why the reboot art design (flash art or not) doesn't and can't work for the reboot show.
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