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Did anyone else find a lot of Omniverse’s character and alien designs goofy?

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  • I quite enjoy watching Omniverse and I will not deny that there is a lot of effort put into the art, and I love how the artstyle allows for great character expression and smooth animation. I still think that the classic artstyle is the best artstyle in every way and suits the series more, but Omniverse is good as well.

    However, what stood out to me was the alien redesigns. A lot of them just looked so goofy and hard to take seriously. With OS and even in Alien Force/Ultimate Alien, they were designed with a sense of “realism” and were so much more believable as actual alien beings despite being such diverse and crazy concepts on paper (aside from exceptions like Fasttrack and Rath). Omniverse stylised their aliens too much, giving many aliens a huge chin and/or buff bodies. It works for some I guess, but most of them look silly. Its good how they are now less humanoid which was a problem with some UAF designs, but the proportions are sometimes exaggerated. For instance, how does Four Arms even manage to support his large body mass on legs which look like sticks? Why is Alien X’s chin bigger than the rest of his head? And the clothing isn’t as well
    implemented as the OS clothing, usually with a green belt with an Omnitrix slapped onto the alien.

    Shocksquatch is a good example of what I’m taking about here:

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    This is what he looked like in his debut in the Heroes United Crossover.

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    This is what he looked like in Omniverse. Can’t help but feel that they overdid the electric theme here to the point of even giving him a lightning shaped crest on his head, and he looks more like a buff guy in a fur suit here. The Heroes United one looks far more believable as an actual alien being which resembles a yeti.

  • I quite enjoy watching Omniverse and I will not deny that there is a lot of effort put into the art, and I love how the artstyle allows for great character expression and smooth animation. I still think that the classic artstyle is the best artstyle in every way and suits the series more, but Omniverse is good as well.

    However, what stood out to me was the alien redesigns. A lot of them just looked so goofy and hard to take seriously. With OS and even in Alien Force/Ultimate Alien, they were designed with a sense of “realism” and were so much more believable as actual alien beings despite being such diverse and crazy concepts on paper (aside from exceptions like Fasttrack and Rath). Omniverse stylised their aliens too much, giving many aliens a huge chin and/or buff bodies. It works for some I guess, but most of them look silly. Its good how they are now less humanoid which was a problem with some UAF designs, but the proportions are sometimes exaggerated. For instance, how does Four Arms even manage to support his large body mass on legs which look like sticks? Why is Alien X’s chin bigger than the rest of his head? And the clothing isn’t as well
    implemented as the OS clothing, usually with a green belt with an Omnitrix slapped onto the alien.

    Shocksquatch is a good example of what I’m taking about here:

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    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/8/85/HU_(996c).png/revision/latest?cb=20190412113935

    This is what he looked like in his debut in the Heroes United Crossover.

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    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/a/a6/Shocksquatch_omniverse_official.png/revision/latest?cb=20210515162700

    This is what he looked like in Omniverse. Can’t help but feel that they overdid the electric theme here to the point of even giving him a lightning shaped crest on his head, and he looks more like a buff guy in a fur suit here. The Heroes United one looks far more believable as an actual alien being which resembles a yeti.

    @KineceleranGirl Well, where do I start? Stinkfly is for some reason fat, same goes for Big Chill, and Four Arms upper body looks to big for his small feet. And Shocksquatch doesnt even look like himself. Eatle looks too weird. But some designs I do like, like Clockwork, Humungousaur and Swampfire. And Heatblast doesnt really change at all during the show. But I have to say: Most of the Omniverse designs are too goofy for their own good, and we have the that stupid DJW to thank for that.

  • Cartoon Network labeled Shocksquatch as a brand new alien for Omniverse. Back when they were advertising for the then-new Ben 10 show. Yes I do watch a lot of the Ben 10 promos recorded off tv that gets posted on youtube.

  • @Mortie-10 Some of the redesigns were fine because they didn’t overstylise the aliens. Aliens like NRG and Clockwork are made more detailed in Omniverse which is nice, and Omniverse Ripjaws is infinitely better than the UAF catfish Ripjaws imo.

    The Big Chill design turns him from an elegant yet creepy moth-like alien into a body builder who skipped leg day. Wildmutt has a massive chin for some reason and a dog collar of all things. Of all the new aliens in Omniverse, only Feedback and Gravattack looked convincing for me.

    I respect DJWs artistic ability and his style of drawing is good by all means (it works very well in the 2003 Teen Titans), but I just don’t think that his alien designs work for Ben 10. Nobody beats Tom Perkins and the other original series artists in that regard, and honestly I would’ve liked to see some of Perkins’ non canon alien designs which imo look far better than many of the canon alien designs which we got.

  • @Mortie-10 Some of the redesigns were fine because they didn’t overstylise the aliens. Aliens like NRG and Clockwork are made more detailed in Omniverse which is nice, and Omniverse Ripjaws is infinitely better than the UAF catfish Ripjaws imo.

    The Big Chill design turns him from an elegant yet creepy moth-like alien into a body builder who skipped leg day. Wildmutt has a massive chin for some reason and a dog collar of all things. Of all the new aliens in Omniverse, only Feedback and Gravattack looked convincing for me.

    I respect DJWs artistic ability and his style of drawing is good by all means (it works very well in the 2003 Teen Titans), but I just don’t think that his alien designs work for Ben 10. Nobody beats Tom Perkins and the other original series artists in that regard, and honestly I would’ve liked to see some of Perkins’ non canon alien designs which imo look far better than many of the canon alien designs which we got.

    @KineceleranGirl Yup. I can agree that the designs look too goofy. I do think the art style is good. It just doesn't fit well into Ben 10, and the alien designs are a good example that proves that. Omniverse also tends to have an issue with being too goofy and comedic in general. Many moments that should've been handled pretty seriously are often played off in a comedic manner, which pretty much ruins them.

  • I quite enjoy watching Omniverse and I will not deny that there is a lot of effort put into the art, and I love how the artstyle allows for great character expression and smooth animation. I still think that the classic artstyle is the best artstyle in every way and suits the series more, but Omniverse is good as well.

    However, what stood out to me was the alien redesigns. A lot of them just looked so goofy and hard to take seriously. With OS and even in Alien Force/Ultimate Alien, they were designed with a sense of “realism” and were so much more believable as actual alien beings despite being such diverse and crazy concepts on paper (aside from exceptions like Fasttrack and Rath). Omniverse stylised their aliens too much, giving many aliens a huge chin and/or buff bodies. It works for some I guess, but most of them look silly. Its good how they are now less humanoid which was a problem with some UAF designs, but the proportions are sometimes exaggerated. For instance, how does Four Arms even manage to support his large body mass on legs which look like sticks? Why is Alien X’s chin bigger than the rest of his head? And the clothing isn’t as well
    implemented as the OS clothing, usually with a green belt with an Omnitrix slapped onto the alien.

    Shocksquatch is a good example of what I’m taking about here:

    2fddd115-78f3-47f8-9567-43dfe27827e6-image.png
    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/8/85/HU_(996c).png/revision/latest?cb=20190412113935

    This is what he looked like in his debut in the Heroes United Crossover.

    1847a39e-1fb9-4bf8-818f-612bb2694a32-image.png
    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/a/a6/Shocksquatch_omniverse_official.png/revision/latest?cb=20210515162700

    This is what he looked like in Omniverse. Can’t help but feel that they overdid the electric theme here to the point of even giving him a lightning shaped crest on his head, and he looks more like a buff guy in a fur suit here. The Heroes United one looks far more believable as an actual alien being which resembles a yeti.

    I like Omniverse’s artstyle in general and the background art in particular is superb although I prefer the Classic’s artstyle. But yeah the aliens can sometimes look ridiculous and not in a good way. As a young kid I remember seeing Big Chill for the first time in Omniverse and being horrified at what they’d done to his appearance, especially since that he was aesthetically the best looking alien from UAF imo and then they turned him into a bodybuilder. The stylisation works on some designs admittedly well though.

    @KineceleranGirl I love all of Perkins’ aliens as well but a few of them are probably too freaky even for Ben 10.

  • My least favorite Ben 10 character: Rook Blonko

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    @mortie-10 It's been a while since I've seen Omniverse, but from what I recall, Rook did contribute significantly in a lot of the stuff that went on in the show. He's not a bad character and a lot of the stuff that you say about him is flat out wrong. Like what do you mean by he's completely fine with the retcons and some of the retcons wouldn't be there if he didn't talk about them. The show's retcons are not on Rook. That's on the crew that made Omniverse. Also, secretly evil and working for the Rooters? Seriously? Come on, man. That's freakin ridiculous and makes it seem like you're blindly disliking Omniverse. I don't consider Omniverse to be a good show, but I wouldn't go that far with Rook. There is one thing that I do agree on the most, and that's Rook replacing Gwen and Kevin. Mainly Gwen though. Ben and Gwen work very well together. They have pretty much the best and most dynamic relationship in Ben 10. They fit each other like a glove so much that Gwen just doesn't seem like the type of character that should be replaced as Ben's partner. Rook doesn't feel like a proper replacement either. He seems better off as a side character than a main character. I don't mind Rook being introduced into the Ben 10 franchise, but he most definitely shouldn't have replaced Gwen and shouldn't have been a main character.
  • My Ben 10 aliens playlist

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    @Mortie-10 Here's mine [image: 1619813967998-playlist.png] I believe that it is a really balanced playlist with a range of different aliens, none of whom are too overpowered meaning that they are all of equal importance in my eyes. People may question why I have Rath in there instead of a proper strength alien like Four Arms or Humungousaur for melee combat, but the reason is that the Appolexian transformation would help me be fearless in battle. I'm by nature a quiet person who isn't the first one to put their hand up for a fight and I'd definitely be terrified if I had to engage in hand to hand combat, and Rath's personality would help me overcome that. Or else I could just swap him with Four Arms. Buzzshock and Feedback are also argued to be similar but I think that Feedback is more general when it comes to energy absorption and, well, feedback and is my personal favourite out of all the absorbing aliens. Buzzshock however is more electricity-specific and has powers which Feedback doesn't which makes me have him on my roster. I tried my best not to include any "fusion" aliens like Echo Echo or Jetray (especially not Jetray) as I find that they're too overpowered. Big Chill is the exception here, but only really because I would be worried about using Ghostfreak because of the Ectonourite personality thing. I also tried to include my favourite canon designs of all of them. Granted Pesky Dust's design is a bit unrealistic for me even though I like the idea of the alien, but it's the only one we ever got.
  • A Look At Unreleased Ben 10 Aliens

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    @cooljay7 I would like to see new aliens done in the UAF style.
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    ah with me I did not like alien force and ultimate alien because with alien force they had ben working with kevin and gwen falling in love with him and also with ultimate alien what they did to vilgax
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    i have that feeling to although i really dont want it i want to see his orgin in this universe