I met the creators of ben 10 today at new york comic con 2017.

[Oldtaku_dd]

@tactical-ochoa

I've never heard the brother sister thing either but hay I'm sure a bunch of stuff got tossed around before the show aired. I mean who caes what they through beforehand what aired is all that really matters.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@oldtaku_dd Still though, it's been stated for over 10 years that Ben and Gwen were originally supposed to be friends and classmates yet according to @Bwen329, MOA said that that's really misinformation and that Ben and Gwen were really supposed to be brother and sister. Over 10 years now and this info was never corrected? If this really is true, that's so weird that it was never corrected.

[Ultimate OmniTri]

@tactical-ochoa said in I met the creators of ben 10 today at new york comic con 2017.:

@oldtaku_dd Still though, it's been stated for over 10 years that Ben and Gwen were originally supposed to be friends and classmates yet according to @Bwen329, MOA said that that's really misinformation and that Ben and Gwen were really supposed to be brother and sister. Over 10 years now and this info was never corrected? If this really is true, that's so weird that it was never corrected.

You're looking to far into it.

[Bwen329]

Yeah i do find it odd they said that the subtext between ben and gwen was never there in the canon. I even mention to them that in a old commentary ben 10 dvd video they state that gwen was not related at first hence the weird tension between them. But they said none of that is true same goes for the whole ben 10 pilot episode existing. They said ben 10 never had any romance since kids wouldn't interested in it it was more about family action and adventure. If thats the case then why have gwen have subtle affection for ben here and there and have one episode were ben has a crush on kai?

[Bwen329]

if any of you guys buy the first ben 10 dvd volume one it has that commentary of episode 1 were they mention gwen not being related.

[Bwen329]

@ben-10-fan I asked them if they are going to make a adult ben 10 on Netflix they said maybe if the recent cartoons trends get serious and dark again there more focused on the reboot. Steven would love to make more stories about ben 100000.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@bwen329 Like people that were working on the original Ben 10 show stated in the commentary that Ben and Gwen were originally classmates? Not fans?

[Bwen329]

@tactical-ochoa yeah it was the creators that said that in the commmentary video of episode 1.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@bwen329 Man of Action?! Man of Action stated that in the commentary video?

[Bwen329]

@tactical-ochoa yeah i get the vibe that there lieing about the whole unrelated subtext thing. If thats the case thats not good why dig yourself a hole like that. Fans are smarter than that.

[Bwen329]

@tactical-ochoa yeah i get the vibe that there lieing about the whole unrelated subtext thing. If thats the case thats not good why dig yourself a hole like that? Fans are smarter than that. Im not just talking about the romantic sense of bwen even in platonic sense theres a few episodes were gwen feels a bit left out of the tennyson family. One episode had ben say your just jealous because your not part of the family business. And another episode when grandpa max got put into a hospital ben seems way more concerned about his condition then gwen is.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@bwen329 Did you record your conversation with MOA and do you still have the dvd with the commentary on it?

[Bwen329]

i dont have the dvd with me but i did watch it a long time ago on youtube before it was taken down. you could watch it yourself.

[Bwen329]

you dont even need to watch the dvd commentary to know about the odd subtext its there in the show. I go by what was shown and not what was said.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@bwen329 I'm having trouble finding a video on it but the Ben 10 Planet wiki does state that the season 1 dvd does have commentary by the creators. Maybe soon I'll order each season of the original show up on Amazon. And yeah, I know that I don't need to see the commentary to know about the subtext but still, it's very odd that MOA stated on the commentary for season 1 of the original show that Ben and Gwen were originally supposed to be classmates and then suddenly now change that to Ben and Gwen originally being siblings.

[Bwen329]

@tactical-ochoa to me there hiding something and dont want to tell the actual truth which i find very odd. Maybe telling the truth might upset fans even more? They are aware many bwen shippers have asked them about the subtext there okay with people shipping it but its completely fanon to them.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@bwen329 Maybe they're hiding something. I'm not sure about that myself. If they really did tell you that Ben and Gwen were originally meant to be siblings yet they said before that Ben and Gwen were originally meant to be classmates, I just find that odd that they would do that. That's just really it so far with what I think about this.

[Bwen329]

Man of action in the past has the tendency to say controversal stuff in the past so i wouldnt be surprised if they made up excuses of the odd subtext and say that it was never there despite what was shown.

[ultraalien]

You since Gwen and Ben were born only minutes apart on the same day. It would make sense in making the two being twin siblings.

[Bwen329]

@ultraalien That was one episode were they mention about ben and gwen being born the same days. But many other episodes still had weird unrelated family vibes to it.