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Omniverse establishing Ben's original future

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  • Tactical OchoaT

    Thinking back to this aspect of the show, it's quite surprising to me that Omniverse went the most ham on the whole multiverse concept, and yet tried to establish the future shown in the Original Series as Ben's "true future".

    Granted, that's not something that I buy into. One, the sequel shows did so much retconning that it was nonsensical to establish that the future shown in Omniverse is the same future from the Original Series. There's too many holes with that and no, the "time constantly shifting" excuse doesn't work. That is a dumb and lazy excuse there. Two, the whole point of the Ben 10,000 episode was that it changed Ben's future. Ben and Gwen experiencing that future was supposed to act as a warning to convince them NOT to go down that same path. While I do think it's good that Omniverse tried to be more like the Original Series, this is an example of Omniverse course correcting too much back to said original show.

    I think it is smart for the Ben 10 Planet Wiki to call that out and address the issues with Omniverse's attempt to bring back the original future. Although, I also don't buy into Ben's future changing because he gave Max a cake. That's just something that I find to be dumb.

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    @chronosapien234 Yes, true. The Circus Freaks were important with his plan. However, that's just because they're villainous henchmen characters. Even without Zombozo, the Circus Freaks still end up temporarily as the henchmen to another villain. You know, Ghostfreak. Pretty much almost every time we've seen the Circus Freaks, they are serving somebody. Mostly Zombozo. They're just villainous henchmen characters. They helped but they're not really all that important. In fact, I believe that there pretty much wouldn't be a difference at all if they aren't around. Why? Because, again, they're henchmen. They're also basic thugs, too. The Circus Freaks are not that important. Also, this is about Zombozo as a character and villain. What makes Zombozo who he is. Why he is like that. How he executes his plans. What makes Zombozo as Zombozo and he doesn't need the Circus Freaks for that. That is another out of the many problems with Omniverse and even the other sequels. The Original Series was able to do things that not many cartoon shows ever did. The Original Series did something new. The sequels were generic and typical cartoon shows. They barely did anything new if nothing new at all. That episode in Omniverse with Zombozo turning everyone in Bellwood into zombie clowns. If it was a nod to the Original Series, it failed at trying to delivery and do something unique and impressive. No instead, it ended up being another terrible episode due to Ben regaining his fear of clowns and one major plot hole that really ruined that episode, let alone the sheer cartoonish stupidity of it. Does nobody remember that Zombozo and the Circus Freaks are villains? Does nobody remember what they've done in the past? Oh, Ben regained his fear of clowns, huh? Thanks for making Ben conquering his fears in the Original Series pointless now, Cartoon Network. As for the plot hole, ask yourself this question? Those toy teeth that turn people into zombie clowns. Yeah, how is it that those teeth can bite through Plumber armor and hazmat suits let alone BASIC CLOTHING? They're plastic toy teeth. Is Plumber armor really that terrible and not that protective? I thought Stormtrooper armor was bad enough. Plumber armor is even worse. That one plot hole alone makes that entire episode freakin stupid and terrible. It shows how poor and lazy the writing, structuring, and designing of the sequels are. I know it's a cartoon show but again, it needs to make sense and needs to be understandable enough to work.