CN's treatment of Ben 10
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@Rexfan1333 At this point, CN just cares more about their freakin toy lines than the actual shows themselves. If a toy line doesn't succeed, then the show gets cancelled, regardless of how good it is. If a toy line does succeed and bring in the money for CN, then they will just keep airing more and more episodes regardless of how bad a show is. Teen Titans Go! for example.
In my opinion, Ben 10 needs to be taken away from CN and brought to a different company that will let Man of Action have much better freedom and control to make the Ben 10 show that they truly want to make. A suitable enough Japanese network company could work and is one of my recommended choices. Some of my other choices would be Disney, because of the Avengers series and Star Wars and other famous IPs that Disney gives huge respect and passion and effort into them, and Netflix as more of a last resort.
@Tactical-Ochoa I wouldn't mind giving the reboot a chance first, but I agree with on CN only caring for the series toys and not the series it self. I feel any one can do Ben 10 justice instead of CN because they think it's nothing but a kid show. (which is not true, I'm 22 years old and still love the series)
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@Rexfan1333 At this point, CN just cares more about their freakin toy lines than the actual shows themselves. If a toy line doesn't succeed, then the show gets cancelled, regardless of how good it is. If a toy line does succeed and bring in the money for CN, then they will just keep airing more and more episodes regardless of how bad a show is. Teen Titans Go! for example.
In my opinion, Ben 10 needs to be taken away from CN and brought to a different company that will let Man of Action have much better freedom and control to make the Ben 10 show that they truly want to make. A suitable enough Japanese network company could work and is one of my recommended choices. Some of my other choices would be Disney, because of the Avengers series and Star Wars and other famous IPs that Disney gives huge respect and passion and effort into them, and Netflix as more of a last resort.
@Tactical-Ochoa I do wonder why CN will never let japanese company do Ben 10, I'm sure Man of Action would love the idea of Madhoue studios or Studio Bones (any studio would make Ben 10 amazing, I'm just naming my favorite ones) make Ben 10. (they are even working with a anime company to do the new Mega Man series)
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@Tactical-Ochoa I do wonder why CN will never let japanese company do Ben 10, I'm sure Man of Action would love the idea of Madhoue studios or Studio Bones (any studio would make Ben 10 amazing, I'm just naming my favorite ones) make Ben 10. (they are even working with a anime company to do the new Mega Man series)
@Rexfan1333 That "it's a kids show" excuse is really just such a terrible and cheap way to shut people's opinions up really. At least it is to me. CN doesn't even understand what kids are really like. It's like CN just thinks that "oh, kids are kids and kids have a terrible attention span" or something of the likes. CN is making the Ben 10 reboot episodes 11 minutes long each because kids like shorter content and the same is for the Justice League Action show because it's to get children viewers right into the action. There's also just how absurdly bombed down Teen Titans Go! is just because of kid viewers. It's such obvious and absolute bullshit. Kids are kids and kids are learning what is good and bad and what is right and wrong. They are learning to understand things better and even then, there are many various examples of movies, tv shows, etc that have great and well in-depth stories, settings, characters, etc and kids just absolutely love those works because of the reasons that I listed. Examples include The Lego Movie, The Peanuts Movie, Up, Wall-E, Star Wars, the Avatar shows, the Ben 10 Original Series, the original Teen Titans and the list goes on and on. Heck, we are all living examples of what I'm describing here.
I believe CN doesn't want a Japanese company/studio to work on Ben 10 is that well, it's Japan and Japan has a different culture from that of the US. My "Bwen" topic page and the cousin romance concept that I describe, fully acceptable and allowed in Japan. Studios in Japan are not that afraid to do some pretty ballsy concepts because, well, that's Japan for you. Just take a look at their anime. I bet that CN would find that unacceptable for kid viewers even though CN doesn't understand that it's really just cultural differences and thus they shouldn't even worry at all about it. Heck, I guarantee you that a Japanese studio would most likely implement the Bwen concept into Ben 10. At least this is my take on it but it's a reason why I like Japanese culture and works so much. Because Japan is Japan and they are more willing to get a lot more creative, most of the time, it leads to some really creative and unique works of literature and entertainment media that is just not seen much from other companies; especially in the US. Heck, Dragonball Z is a kid-friendly anime show and look how crazy and extreme that show is, even when CN tried to tone down all that extreme stuff for their US viewers.
There's also the reason that CN is just being cheap and want to make their shows in the most cheap and lazy way possible and rely more on the profits that their toy lines would bring in. To them, it's all about money at this point and having a Japanese studio work on Ben 10 would probably be expensive to do. A part of me feels as if this reboot should fail just so Man of Action can get the Ben 10 series away from CN and find a better and much more suitable company to work on the series. A company that would give Ben 10 much more respect, passion, effort, and care than CN. That is if Man of Action can play their cards right.
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I agree I hope man of action leaves cartoonetwork also the reason I like studio madhouse they made a anime I like called hellsing
Keep running
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I agree I hope man of action leaves cartoonetwork also the reason I like studio madhouse they made a anime I like called hellsing
@KorseBLI-ND Well, Man of Action needs to make sure that they leave with Ben 10 in their hands. That when they leave CN, they take Ben 10 with them. Heck, I mean like I wouldn't even be surprised if Man of Action made the Ben 10 reboot terrible on purpose just so CN can cancel the series and thus give Man of Action the leeway they need to get the Ben 10 series out of CN's hands and take it to a different and more suitable company.
@Omni-Triforcer In my opinion and at least for the most part, there is no such thing as a kids show. Instead, kids shows should be considered as kid-friendly shows instead because anyone of any age can enjoy any piece of literature and entertainment media works, regardless of what it is and what it contains.
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very true there really is no kid shows thanks for pointing that out.
That would be genius if moa made the show bad on purpose but idk i dont think theyd do that.@Omni-Triforcer You never know. MOA witness CN nearly destroy Ben 10, their very own creation. If you were in MOA's shoes, would you trust CN in Ben 10 anymore or would you rather find some way to get Ben 10 out of CN's hands and find a different company that will give you more freedom and control of the series and thus allow you to make Ben 10 in the very way that you envisioned it as? Alien Force was strike one. Ultimate Alien was strike two. Omniverse was strike three. There's also CN's treatment of Teen Titans Go! and their approach towards trying to build a trend in comedy shows and there's also CN being more focused in profiting off of their toy lines. Heck, CN has been losing quite a lot of viewers because of what they did in recent years. I certainly don't trust CN with Ben 10 anymore and the same goes for many other fans and viewers. Why should Man of Action trust CN with Ben 10?
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I agree I hope man of action leaves cartoonetwork also the reason I like studio madhouse they made a anime I like called hellsing
@KorseBLI-ND if the reboot fails, I do hope MOA will leave and take the rights for both Ben 10 and Generator Rex. (would be awesome to see a real sequel to the crossover with better animation)
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the its a kid show excuse is so dumb. Comics were for kids to and now look at them.
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@Rexfan1333 That "it's a kids show" excuse is really just such a terrible and cheap way to shut people's opinions up really. At least it is to me. CN doesn't even understand what kids are really like. It's like CN just thinks that "oh, kids are kids and kids have a terrible attention span" or something of the likes. CN is making the Ben 10 reboot episodes 11 minutes long each because kids like shorter content and the same is for the Justice League Action show because it's to get children viewers right into the action. There's also just how absurdly bombed down Teen Titans Go! is just because of kid viewers. It's such obvious and absolute bullshit. Kids are kids and kids are learning what is good and bad and what is right and wrong. They are learning to understand things better and even then, there are many various examples of movies, tv shows, etc that have great and well in-depth stories, settings, characters, etc and kids just absolutely love those works because of the reasons that I listed. Examples include The Lego Movie, The Peanuts Movie, Up, Wall-E, Star Wars, the Avatar shows, the Ben 10 Original Series, the original Teen Titans and the list goes on and on. Heck, we are all living examples of what I'm describing here.
I believe CN doesn't want a Japanese company/studio to work on Ben 10 is that well, it's Japan and Japan has a different culture from that of the US. My "Bwen" topic page and the cousin romance concept that I describe, fully acceptable and allowed in Japan. Studios in Japan are not that afraid to do some pretty ballsy concepts because, well, that's Japan for you. Just take a look at their anime. I bet that CN would find that unacceptable for kid viewers even though CN doesn't understand that it's really just cultural differences and thus they shouldn't even worry at all about it. Heck, I guarantee you that a Japanese studio would most likely implement the Bwen concept into Ben 10. At least this is my take on it but it's a reason why I like Japanese culture and works so much. Because Japan is Japan and they are more willing to get a lot more creative, most of the time, it leads to some really creative and unique works of literature and entertainment media that is just not seen much from other companies; especially in the US. Heck, Dragonball Z is a kid-friendly anime show and look how crazy and extreme that show is, even when CN tried to tone down all that extreme stuff for their US viewers.
There's also the reason that CN is just being cheap and want to make their shows in the most cheap and lazy way possible and rely more on the profits that their toy lines would bring in. To them, it's all about money at this point and having a Japanese studio work on Ben 10 would probably be expensive to do. A part of me feels as if this reboot should fail just so Man of Action can get the Ben 10 series away from CN and find a better and much more suitable company to work on the series. A company that would give Ben 10 much more respect, passion, effort, and care than CN. That is if Man of Action can play their cards right.
@Tactical-Ochoa gotta love Japan, they know what people want, to see Ben 10 get animated by those amazing studios would be amazing, I can see Bwen happen as well if they make it. It would be cool to see Toonami show it as well. (I'm so happy they brought it back)
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if the reboot fails i really do hope that man of action takes ben 10 away from cn i dont want to see cartoon networks failure end the ben 10 franchise forever.
@Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I feel Ben 10 has so much potential to be one of the most amazing shows out there if done right. (Anime always has the most beautiful stories and are not afraid to hold back on cool action scenes)
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@Tactical-Ochoa gotta love Japan, they know what people want, to see Ben 10 get animated by those amazing studios would be amazing, I can see Bwen happen as well if they make it. It would be cool to see Toonami show it as well. (I'm so happy they brought it back)
@Rexfan1333 Heck, one of the reasons I want to work with PlatinumGames on my Ben 10 video game idea is because I feel that I want to work with a Japanese game studio. Because of the Japanese culture and its influence on their literature and entertainment media works, I feel that I would have the most creative freedom and capability working in a Japanese game production studio than a game studio in the US and anywhere else.
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I agree I hope man of action leaves cartoonetwork also the reason I like studio madhouse they made a anime I like called hellsing
@KorseBLI-ND loved Hellsing Ultimate.
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@Rexfan1333 Heck, one of the reasons I want to work with PlatinumGames on my Ben 10 video game idea is because I feel that I want to work with a Japanese game studio. Because of the Japanese culture and its influence on their literature and entertainment media works, I feel that I would have the most creative freedom and capability working in a Japanese game production studio than a game studio in the US and anywhere else.
@Tactical-Ochoa Hope you get the chance on this game, a lot of fans would love to see it happen. (me included)
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@Tactical-Ochoa Hope you get the chance on this game, a lot of fans would love to see it happen. (me included)
@Rexfan1333 Well, at the moment, I just have to learn to speak and understand Japanese in order to fulfill the minimum requirements to be able to apply at PlatinumGames. Trying to gather up some resources to help get me started. It'll take a while but it's definitely a goal that I really want to pull off and succeed in achieving here.
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@Rexfan1333 Well, at the moment, I just have to learn to speak and understand Japanese in order to fulfill the minimum requirements to be able to apply at PlatinumGames. Trying to gather up some resources to help get me started. It'll take a while but it's definitely a goal that I really want to pull off and succeed in achieving here.
@Tactical-Ochoa Good luck, I'm pretty sure you can get the language. You seem really dedicated and I like that.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Good luck, I'm pretty sure you can get the language. You seem really dedicated and I like that.
@Rexfan1333 Yeah. I just got to find the time in between my school and work schedule to put in the effort to learn the language.
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@Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.
@Rexfan1333 said:
@Omni-Triforcer I agree completely, animation is not just for kids.
I'm 47 and still a big animation fan.
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