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Ben 10 reboot discussion: Season 3

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  • @tactical-ochoa kinda hard to do so.

    @offbeatcat Well, try harder. Be more like Oddball. Dig just how beautiful it is out there. Say something more righteous and hopeful. Lol.

  • @offbeatcat Well, try harder. Be more like Oddball. Dig just how beautiful it is out there. Say something more righteous and hopeful. Lol.

    @tactical-ochoa I can't figure you out. half the time you're a stone cold critic who doesn't wanna hear my misplaced optimism, but somehow when i start getting cynical you're an optimist.

  • Say I wonder when they're release more new episodes of Ben 10 Reboot season 3? Like to see a new episode when Grandpa Max tells Ben and Gwen how he spend his college days at State University with his friends. And that episode of Ben and Gwen and Max at a family or a friend's wedding episode.

  • When they ever aired more new episodes of Ben 10 Reboot season 3 including King Of The Castle and Big in Japan soon?

  • Omni-Kix Diamondhead, Heatblast, and Humungousaur were shown off at the NY Toy Fair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qaAZwo-EEU&frags=pl%2Cwn (they are at 2:05). In my opinion, Omni-Kix only exists just so the reboot can sell more toys. When looking at the video, I honestly couldn't even tell that Humungousaur was the middle figure -- I thought it was just a new alien.

  • Omni-Kix Diamondhead, Heatblast, and Humungousaur were shown off at the NY Toy Fair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qaAZwo-EEU&frags=pl%2Cwn (they are at 2:05). In my opinion, Omni-Kix only exists just so the reboot can sell more toys. When looking at the video, I honestly couldn't even tell that Humungousaur was the middle figure -- I thought it was just a new alien.

    @cooljay7 Of course it only exists just to sell more toys. The same went with Omni-Enhancements. The whole reason and purpose for the reboot show overall to exist is to sell toys.

  • So Kevin is getting his own spinoff series

  • Geez, we've barely even started on season 3 and they're already developing a season 4 AND a spinoff? They're starting to get a little in over their head...

  • Well, this confirms the theory. They're building the new seasons around merchandise, and they begin development of a new season before a season even finishes.

  • I suspect a burnout could be in the future if they keep rushing like this.

  • I suspect a burnout could be in the future if they keep rushing like this.

    @Offbeatcat Same here. A burnout from both fans and viewers and likely the people working on Ben 10 as well. No one asked for this. No one asked for a show based around Kevin.

  • Well, what do you think it's going to be like? Do you think that the formula will be any different?

  • Well, what do you think it's going to be like? Do you think that the formula will be any different?

    @Offbeatcat If they're going with the reboot version of Kevin, I feel as if it's not really going to be much different from reboot Ben considering that Kevin (for some stupid and unnecessary reason) now has his own Omnitrix instead of his original abilities. Granted, Kevin'll likely be even worse than Ben considering how Kevin acts like such a childish brat that intentionally bullies others and finds enjoyment out of it. Why should people root for someone like him in his own spin-off show? Even then, I just find it to be unnecessary overall. Kevin (old and new version) isn't the type of character that's really deserving of his own spin-off.

  • @Offbeatcat If they're going with the reboot version of Kevin, I feel as if it's not really going to be much different from reboot Ben considering that Kevin (for some stupid and unnecessary reason) now has his own Omnitrix instead of his original abilities. Granted, Kevin'll likely be even worse than Ben considering how Kevin acts like such a childish brat that intentionally bullies others and finds enjoyment out of it. Why should people root for someone like him in his own spin-off show? Even then, I just find it to be unnecessary overall. Kevin (old and new version) isn't the type of character that's really deserving of his own spin-off.

    @Tactical-Ochoa It prob is reboot Kevin but it would be awesome if it was the og Kevin.

  • If it was the OS Kevin we could see a lot more screen time of the villains from Ben 10.

  • If it was the OS Kevin we could see a lot more screen time of the villains from Ben 10.

    @cooljay7 Well, like I said, I don't find old and new version of Kevin to really be the type of character to deserve a spin-off show based around him. At least to me, I don't really care about giving more screen time to the villains of the franchise. I care more about fulfilling that potential that the franchise still has and further developing Ben and Gwen as characters as well as Ken and Devlin. I care more about going for that Ben 10,000 direction. Etc. That's something that the franchise actually needs. Not some unnecessary spin-off of Kevin.

  • @cooljay7 Well, like I said, I don't find old and new version of Kevin to really be the type of character to deserve a spin-off show based around him. At least to me, I don't really care about giving more screen time to the villains of the franchise. I care more about fulfilling that potential that the franchise still has and further developing Ben and Gwen as characters as well as Ken and Devlin. I care more about going for that Ben 10,000 direction. Etc. That's something that the franchise actually needs. Not some unnecessary spin-off of Kevin.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Same I would much rather have a Ben 10,000 series than a Kevin spin-off but at this point I'd rather have an OS Kevin spin-off than nothing for the original timeline.

  • To be honest, what i think the reboot needs is more time with a story. Story has always been the afterthought of each season. They need to chill with the seasons and merch, and just put more time into a season. plan things out.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa Same I would much rather have a Ben 10,000 series than a Kevin spin-off but at this point I'd rather have an OS Kevin spin-off than nothing for the original timeline.

    @cooljay7 That is if the spin-off is going to involve OS Kevin, which I doubt is going to be the case. If this spin-off show really is going to happen, it's more likely going to involve reboot Kevin since that the reboot is what's currently going on right now. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Kevin spin-off show is being made just to sell more toys and merchandise too.

  • @cooljay7 That is if the spin-off is going to involve OS Kevin, which I doubt is going to be the case. If this spin-off show really is going to happen, it's more likely going to involve reboot Kevin since that the reboot is what's currently going on right now. I wouldn't even be surprised if the Kevin spin-off show is being made just to sell more toys and merchandise too.

    @Tactical-Ochoa It's all but confirmed that it is, as shown by the pattern. Here's hoping the show at least gets a different team of writers.

  • Ben 10 reboot: A positives discussion

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    @tactical-ochoa This is a positivity channel. Keep your negative remarks in some other channel.
  • Will the Reboot be the last Ben 10 series?

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    with me the reason I did not like alien force and ultimate alien was it seem like they did not watch the original series plus the gwevin pairing plus have kevin as a good guy
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    @Rexfan1333 That's another thing. I don't hate the reboot's art style either. I just don't like it and I just give it a lot of criticism. With Cartoon Network, we're now at a point where this is just unacceptable because like you said, Cartoon Network's reasons for wanting to go for these types of art styles is bullshit and they and their artists and animators are really just being cheap and lazy here. Like I said, it likely won't even matter that much to many if the story and writing is at least going to be good because the artwork and animation quality alone can turn many viewers away from the reboot. Having a strong story and writing is very much important but so is having some great quality artwork and animations. Artwork that can set the stage for the settings, environments, characters, etc. Animations that can deliver on many of the scenes that we're going to be seeing here. How are viewers supposed to be able to get invested with Ben developing as a character when he looks like crap? How are viewers going to be able to get invested in Ben's aliens if at least some of them look ugly and/or don't even look that much alien at all? How are any of the action scenes going to be good and memorable if the animation quality doesn't back them up? Yes I know we haven't seen any action scenes yet. It's just a point that I want to make. Overall, if they're going to have a strong and memorable story, setting, characters, scenes, etc, then they need to be able to be backed up well by a good quality art style and animations. Otherwise, there would be a chance that things can fall flat pretty badly. Just imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra looking like the Ben 10 reboot or the PPG reboot or Teen Titans Go! or Clarence. Imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra having the lower quality animation work that Cartoon Network Studios is being more known of making. Even with a strong story and characters and all that stuff, those two shows would fall flat pretty badly. Imagine the Ben 10 Original Series having this type of art style and/or this quality of animations. We would more likely not be looking up to the Original Series as much as we did back then and still do and Ben 10 would more likely not have been able to be as successful as it was back then. Omniverse had some good story aspects and moments to it but the art style and animation quality doesn't help to hold those good story aspects and moments up that well. I previously thought that story, writing, characters and all that stuff are more important than visuals but really the visuals of a show, movie, video game, etc are really just as equally important. Everything needs to be able to work and blend together seamlessly and very well. If one of those seams hits a snag and breaks, chances are that everything can fall apart either quickly or eventually. Just something that I want to point out. A strong story is very much important but just as equally so does that apply to having strong visuals and animations as well.
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    id say that new york toy fair is a pretty safe bet
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    they should an entire series about ken 10 and devlin 11