Ben 10: My Ideal Roster of Ben's Aliens

[csgt]

Also, another new alien that comes to my mind is Lenopan / Sludgepuppy / Lucy's species. Have you thought about including a Lenopan for undercover mission purposes?

[Tactical Ochoa]

@csgt Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's right. That might be a better choice for a new alien than a Protost alien. Or I could keep the Protost alien and include the Lenopan alien to my list for, as you stated, undercover/infiltration missions. Great call there. I'll make an edit to include the Lenopan to my list.

[Tactical Ochoa]

Alright, I made an update to add the Lenopan to my list. It'll be under the "New Aliens" category.

[Tactical Ochoa]

I made an update to this page where I removed some aliens from my list. Everything that covers what I did is located in "Note:" at the beginning of the page that covers what aliens I removed and "Edit 2:" near the end of the page that covers my reasons as to why.

[Ebomnitrix]

I wanna ask you a question, why do you have Gluto instead of Goop? Because they both have the same powers entirely, they're voice is almost identical too without the vocal effects, I'm just curious why's he's there is all?

[Tactical Ochoa]

@ebomnitrix I explained why on the page itself. Spitter already covers Goop's acidic ability and the Protost alien (Gluto) covers Goop's shapeshifting abilities. What I didn't mention though is that Goop is reliant on that anti gravity (or something of the likes) device to remain effective as that is his primary means of mobility and maintaining and manipulating his shape. A very blatant, obvious, and easily exploitable weakness. The Protost alien doesn't have to rely on any device in order to maintain and manipulate his shape and mobility. I also like how more visually interesting and unique the Protost alien looks compared to Goop.

[Offbeatcat]

Personally, I feel the way you organized this list creates problems. Most prominently, the fact it is in chronological unlock order. Now, this doesn't mean all of your choices need to be changed, but it does mean it's not exactly the best lineup. I personally feel that there are many other electric aliens simply better then buzzshock. Feedback is a bit overpowered, and Buzzshock is just weak. Ben has many electric aliens, and i think that Ampfibian is a better choice for the electric power.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@andrew42 AmpFibian could be an interesting choice if not Buzzshock and Feedback. Granted, if I were to include AmpFibian into my list, I would remove his ability to go intangible since that I already have Ghostfreak in my list. However, since that AmpFibian can read other people's minds by sensing the electrical pulses in their minds, AmpFibian could be a good choice for interrogation in intel gathering purposes as well.

I don't really find Buzzshock to be weak. Like I said, I've read up on both Buzzshock and Feedback and I find Buzzshock to be the better alien. Buzzshock can very much do what Feedback can do but there are certain things that Buzzshock can also do that Feedback can't do. If you read up on both of these aliens on the Ben 10 Planet Wiki, you could see what I mean by that.

[Offbeatcat]

I have a few contributions i'd like to make for your new Aliens section.
#1: Slimebiote
Now, i understand this list already has a slime alien, but hear me out. A slimebiote would be really effective if used correctly. Skurd showed the power to latch onto any species, and to use their dna for himself. An example was giving liam an extra hand. This also seems to imply slimebiotes can control people to a limited degree. I think this could be an interesting and effective power for combat, depending on the situation.
#2: Argit's species
Argit's species has a pretty good set of abilities, which Argit doesn't seem to use too often. For starters, his quills can be launched as darts, which can knockout armored aliens like andreas. Also, as demonstrated by pierce, the quills can be removed and used as weapons for hand to hand. Most interestingly though, Argit's species can shut down their pulse. This would be great for a fake out in the middle of a fight, to catch enemies off guard.
Anyways, that's my list.

[Offbeatcat]

@tactical-ochoa I have, and i see what you mean. Overall though, I kinda feel Ampfibian can do most of the same things, and a bit more. Buzzshock is just a bit more frail in close combat, which seems kind of problematic.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@andrew42 An alien that can duplicate himself when severed is...frail. I don't really buy that.

I'm not entirely sure about your suggestion for new aliens. Maybe the Argit species alien could be pretty use. I'll have to think about them more. Thanks for the suggestions though. I'll also think about AmpFibian some more as well.

[Offbeatcat]

@tactical-ochoa Duplication. That's actually a problem. You talked about how redundant having 2 aliens with the same powers is redundant, but buzzshock's duplication renders ditto irrelevant. I'd advise removing ditto, since buzzshock can duplicate. Also, when i said frail, i meant as in being sent flying easily.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@andrew42 Good point. I'd rather keep Ditto so maybe I could remove Buzzshock and find a different alien or readjust Buzzshock and remove that ability. I have also discussed with some of the aliens on my list the need to rebalance them to make them more suitable for my list, such as Atomix. Also, if that's what you meant by frail, then I guess this can go for most of Ben's other aliens because they can be sent flying easily as well. Also, that's not what frail means. Frail means weak, delicate, easily breakable, fragile, etc.

Granted, unlike Ditto, Buzzshock can be easily defeated if he loses too much of his power supply and I wouldn't imagine that this duplication would be used often either since that Buzzshock has to be physically severed in order for that to happen. I could also imagine with each duplication, Buzzshock's power supply would be cut down as well since that each duplicate would need its own power supply, making them weaker and weaker unless they manage to recharge themselves. As stated on the Ben 10 wiki, fire seems to drain Buzzshock's power supply. It's not really that hard to gain access to fire unless the area is surrounded by water.

[Ebomnitrix]

I also wanna bring something up with Buzzshock, Buzzshock has Echo Echo's powers, with duplication, and sonic screaming, while Blitzwolfer and Ditto can do that separately alone, I believe AmpFibian would be a better choice.
I also recommend to use Armodrillo, because none of Ben's aliens can create earthquakes, or drill or or has a jackhammer or anything like that.
I already tried suggesting Overflow since he has the powers to shoot and control water, but you already said no.
I also would try to suggest Squidstrictor, since no alien can shoot ink nor camouflage themselves underwater, but Ripjaws is already something better to do with.
I wanna ask, how do you feel about Nanomech's ability to shrink, or Humungousaur's power to grow if that would be needed? Or Chromastone's ability to shoot ultra violet rays and absorbing that power and etc, since Chromastone can do it better than Feedback, and since well... Feedback isn't all that needed since Chromastone is more of a conductor and laser shooting alien, compared to being an electric alien like Feedback?
Also I wanted to bring up, Spitter doesn't have acidic powers, he just shoots slime.

[Tactical Ochoa]

@ebomnitrix Nothing in the Ben 10 wiki states that Buzzshock has powers similar to Echo Echo and Benwolf's sonic howl. Can you link to me an example of that?

I already have Armodrillo in my list.

I already explained why Humungousaur isn't included in my list. I also already explained why Chromastone isn't included in my list as well.

I don't believe I mentioned Nanomech but in case I didn't, I didn't find Nanomech to be that useful. Being able to shrink just doesn't seem that appealing and useful since that Ben has other better options.

In regards to Spitter, the Ben 10 wiki states that Spitter's slime can be made acidic. It came from somewhere if not the show itself. The Ben 10 Planet wiki ensures that their information is accurate.

[Ebomnitrix]

Watch Tourist Trap again, you see the Megawhatts using both those powers

[Tactical Ochoa]

@ebomnitrix First off, the episode just made me remember that Upgrade shoots lasers. Another reason why I would rather not include Chromastone or any other laser shooting alien. Second, I guess Buzzshock has the sonic howl ability. Looks more like it would require a combined effort from each of the duplicates. It would make sense though since that sound waves transport electrons and electric signals from one place to another in a semiconductor.

[Tactical Ochoa]

Another thing that I noticed was that the sound wave created by the Nosedeenians in Tourist Trap wasn't directional like how Benwolf and Echo Echo's sonic howl was. It was just a sound wave that went in all directions and unlike the sonic howl, it didn't have enough kinetic energy to cause things to go flying. It shattered glass and rang some eardrums and that was it. It could be a good means of causing disorientation to Ben's enemies but it doesn't work like how the sonic howl ability does. So now thinking about it, this ability that Buzzshock could use doesn't override Benwolf's sonic howl ability.

[Tactical Ochoa]

Going back to AmpFibian, I think it would be at least a little more interesting if AmpFibian maybe instead can sting Ben's enemies. Like an actual jellyfish. Every time AmpFibian stings someone or something, it injects a venom that, if given enough doses, can paralyze and disable them. AmpFibian has a strong resemblance to a jellyfish in appearance and is also aquatic. It could be interesting if Ben has access to an alien that has an ability like this.

[Offbeatcat]

You know, I don't think it's fair to remove abilities or tweak power levels. When you do that, it kinda makes me feel as though you're picking favorites. It takes away from the alien, making it different then the creators intended. I mean, really. Please don't be offended. I'm just trying to make sure this list is accurately balanced, and not swayed by one man's opinion. This website is a group effort, not one person running the whole business.