Ben 10: My Ideal Roster of Ben's Aliens
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@csgt Ebomnitrix also mentioned those two aliens on this page on Deviant-art as well. I'll just copy and paste my response on here.
"Why use Water Hazard to spray villains with water when Ben could just use Arctiguana to freeze said aliens instead? Water isn't that useful of a weapon/tool for combat...because it's water. It would be better for Ben to just have an alien that can freeze his enemies instead of an alien that's basically just a big, living, breathing squirt gun."
"I also don't find Whampire that interesting and unique to be on this list either. Plus, there is also factoring in that he is vulnerable to ultraviolet rays so I find him too weak to be on this list as well. Yes, the same goes for Ghostfreak but at least that alien has an over layer to protect him from said ultraviolet rays as well as also being able to go intangible. Plus, I think we've already had enough of a fair share of Halloween themed aliens. Like I said, Benvicktor and Benmummy are likely not going to be used that often since that Ben does have other, better options that fulfill their roles. These are my reasons for not including Whampire into my list."
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@tactical-ochoa To be honest, if I were to make a list of my own, I would probably not include any Halloween themed alien.
I wouldn't like to see Ghostfreak back in the Omnitrix
Benvicktor is like Buzzshock (eletric powers) + Four Arms (brute force)
Benwolf overshadows Wildmutt being an canine alien but stronger and with sonic powers (in my opinion, it's just like the way Echo Echo overshadows Ditto)
Wildvine can be used instead of Benmummy (as you said)
I would actually prefer to see an Alternate Universe Ben with a Monstertrix/Supernaturaltrix, allowing him to turn into supernatural creatures, like ghost, werewolf, vampire, mummy, frankenstein, sorcerer (getting magical powers like OS Gwen), fairy (Pesky Dust), ... [I will probably use this for my fanfic LOL]About Overflow, I think he could still be useful in some situations. Like, a few examples:
1 - To put out fires. If Ben sees a person on fire, it's better to use water than freezing the person, for example.
2 - If Ben is inside a sinking ship, he could use Overflow to keep the ship floating and led it to safety.
3 - If Ben is being attacked by multiple enemies underwater, he could use Overflow to keep them away, controlling the water around them.
I'm sure there are other ways to get out of this situations, but I still consider Overflow useful enough. -
What about chromastone i don't recall any aliens having similar powers as him
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Actually why not Pesky Dust? PD has powers over putting people to sleep and messing with their dreams, it is a new power after all.
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@jrphilgene Chromastone shoots laser beams. So does Eyeguy, who is already in my list. Also, there's already a crystal-based alien in my list as well, which is Diamondhead. Chromastone can also absorb energy but I already have Buzzshock in my list.
@Ebomnitrix I don't know about Pesky Dust. I don't really like the design of Pesky Dust as it doesn't feel unique and alien. Making people go to sleep and messing with their dreams could work for the purpose of interrogations and thus get information out of Ben's enemies. However, since that Ghostfreak can possess people, I'd imagine that he could get inside their minds as well, thus getting information out of them that way. I'm not sure if this was ever confirmed to be the case but I'd say that it is likely. Even then, I'd also imagine that with Gutrot being on my list, Ben could just use Gutrot to create some truth serum gas for interrogations as well. If I do decide to keep Toepick, that alien would be useful for interrogations as well. Information gathering is really where I would find Pesky Dust to be at his most useful and balanced but there are already other aliens on this list that already fulfill that very role so, no on Pesky Dust for my list. Also thinking about it, Pesky Dust could also end up making many of Ben's fights too easy as all he would have to do with Pesky Dust is spray the sleeping dust onto his enemies and thus knock them out instantly. There are exceptions to this but still.
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Also, another new alien that comes to my mind is Lenopan / Sludgepuppy / Lucy's species. Have you thought about including a Lenopan for undercover mission purposes?
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@csgt Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That's right. That might be a better choice for a new alien than a Protost alien. Or I could keep the Protost alien and include the Lenopan alien to my list for, as you stated, undercover/infiltration missions. Great call there. I'll make an edit to include the Lenopan to my list.
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Alright, I made an update to add the Lenopan to my list. It'll be under the "New Aliens" category.
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I made an update to this page where I removed some aliens from my list. Everything that covers what I did is located in "Note:" at the beginning of the page that covers what aliens I removed and "Edit 2:" near the end of the page that covers my reasons as to why.
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I wanna ask you a question, why do you have Gluto instead of Goop? Because they both have the same powers entirely, they're voice is almost identical too without the vocal effects, I'm just curious why's he's there is all?
It's Action Time!
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@ebomnitrix I explained why on the page itself. Spitter already covers Goop's acidic ability and the Protost alien (Gluto) covers Goop's shapeshifting abilities. What I didn't mention though is that Goop is reliant on that anti gravity (or something of the likes) device to remain effective as that is his primary means of mobility and maintaining and manipulating his shape. A very blatant, obvious, and easily exploitable weakness. The Protost alien doesn't have to rely on any device in order to maintain and manipulate his shape and mobility. I also like how more visually interesting and unique the Protost alien looks compared to Goop.
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Personally, I feel the way you organized this list creates problems. Most prominently, the fact it is in chronological unlock order. Now, this doesn't mean all of your choices need to be changed, but it does mean it's not exactly the best lineup. I personally feel that there are many other electric aliens simply better then buzzshock. Feedback is a bit overpowered, and Buzzshock is just weak. Ben has many electric aliens, and i think that Ampfibian is a better choice for the electric power.
Nobody gets to choose how it happens.
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@andrew42 AmpFibian could be an interesting choice if not Buzzshock and Feedback. Granted, if I were to include AmpFibian into my list, I would remove his ability to go intangible since that I already have Ghostfreak in my list. However, since that AmpFibian can read other people's minds by sensing the electrical pulses in their minds, AmpFibian could be a good choice for interrogation in intel gathering purposes as well.
I don't really find Buzzshock to be weak. Like I said, I've read up on both Buzzshock and Feedback and I find Buzzshock to be the better alien. Buzzshock can very much do what Feedback can do but there are certain things that Buzzshock can also do that Feedback can't do. If you read up on both of these aliens on the Ben 10 Planet Wiki, you could see what I mean by that.
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I have a few contributions i'd like to make for your new Aliens section.
#1: Slimebiote
Now, i understand this list already has a slime alien, but hear me out. A slimebiote would be really effective if used correctly. Skurd showed the power to latch onto any species, and to use their dna for himself. An example was giving liam an extra hand. This also seems to imply slimebiotes can control people to a limited degree. I think this could be an interesting and effective power for combat, depending on the situation.
#2: Argit's species
Argit's species has a pretty good set of abilities, which Argit doesn't seem to use too often. For starters, his quills can be launched as darts, which can knockout armored aliens like andreas. Also, as demonstrated by pierce, the quills can be removed and used as weapons for hand to hand. Most interestingly though, Argit's species can shut down their pulse. This would be great for a fake out in the middle of a fight, to catch enemies off guard.
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@tactical-ochoa I have, and i see what you mean. Overall though, I kinda feel Ampfibian can do most of the same things, and a bit more. Buzzshock is just a bit more frail in close combat, which seems kind of problematic.
Nobody gets to choose how it happens.
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@andrew42 An alien that can duplicate himself when severed is...frail. I don't really buy that.
I'm not entirely sure about your suggestion for new aliens. Maybe the Argit species alien could be pretty use. I'll have to think about them more. Thanks for the suggestions though. I'll also think about AmpFibian some more as well.
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@tactical-ochoa Duplication. That's actually a problem. You talked about how redundant having 2 aliens with the same powers is redundant, but buzzshock's duplication renders ditto irrelevant. I'd advise removing ditto, since buzzshock can duplicate. Also, when i said frail, i meant as in being sent flying easily.
Nobody gets to choose how it happens.
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@andrew42 Good point. I'd rather keep Ditto so maybe I could remove Buzzshock and find a different alien or readjust Buzzshock and remove that ability. I have also discussed with some of the aliens on my list the need to rebalance them to make them more suitable for my list, such as Atomix. Also, if that's what you meant by frail, then I guess this can go for most of Ben's other aliens because they can be sent flying easily as well. Also, that's not what frail means. Frail means weak, delicate, easily breakable, fragile, etc.
Granted, unlike Ditto, Buzzshock can be easily defeated if he loses too much of his power supply and I wouldn't imagine that this duplication would be used often either since that Buzzshock has to be physically severed in order for that to happen. I could also imagine with each duplication, Buzzshock's power supply would be cut down as well since that each duplicate would need its own power supply, making them weaker and weaker unless they manage to recharge themselves. As stated on the Ben 10 wiki, fire seems to drain Buzzshock's power supply. It's not really that hard to gain access to fire unless the area is surrounded by water.
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I also wanna bring something up with Buzzshock, Buzzshock has Echo Echo's powers, with duplication, and sonic screaming, while Blitzwolfer and Ditto can do that separately alone, I believe AmpFibian would be a better choice.
I also recommend to use Armodrillo, because none of Ben's aliens can create earthquakes, or drill or or has a jackhammer or anything like that.
I already tried suggesting Overflow since he has the powers to shoot and control water, but you already said no.
I also would try to suggest Squidstrictor, since no alien can shoot ink nor camouflage themselves underwater, but Ripjaws is already something better to do with.
I wanna ask, how do you feel about Nanomech's ability to shrink, or Humungousaur's power to grow if that would be needed? Or Chromastone's ability to shoot ultra violet rays and absorbing that power and etc, since Chromastone can do it better than Feedback, and since well... Feedback isn't all that needed since Chromastone is more of a conductor and laser shooting alien, compared to being an electric alien like Feedback?
Also I wanted to bring up, Spitter doesn't have acidic powers, he just shoots slime.It's Action Time!
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@ebomnitrix Nothing in the Ben 10 wiki states that Buzzshock has powers similar to Echo Echo and Benwolf's sonic howl. Can you link to me an example of that?
I already have Armodrillo in my list.
I already explained why Humungousaur isn't included in my list. I also already explained why Chromastone isn't included in my list as well.
I don't believe I mentioned Nanomech but in case I didn't, I didn't find Nanomech to be that useful. Being able to shrink just doesn't seem that appealing and useful since that Ben has other better options.
In regards to Spitter, the Ben 10 wiki states that Spitter's slime can be made acidic. It came from somewhere if not the show itself. The Ben 10 Planet wiki ensures that their information is accurate.
