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  • Oh yeah. This is the fan art and fan fiction stories that brought a lot of inspiration for this idea. Credit to the very people that made these. The fan art is very well done and the fan fiction stories are really nicely made. Too bad the stories aren't finished; especially the first one.

    Fan Art
    http://redscoler.deviantart.com/art/Ben-10-Ghostfreak-422727922
    http://kurobenfreak.deviantart.com/art/Ben-10-Anti-Hero-97997255

    Fan Fiction
    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8777831/1/Just-as-One
    https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11066446/1/Ghost-Bound (first two chapters)

  • Well, I just realized that I made a spelling mistake with the villain that I discussed in regards to his name. It's not "Z'Skayr." It's actually "Zs'Skayr" so my mistake in case anyone caught on to that.

  • I realized that I forgot to discuss the length at which Ben would be possessed by Zs'Skayr. Really, I'd say that I would only have Zs'Skayr possess Ben in only two episodes of this story arc idea and it would be the final two or three episodes. Here is how I would plan it out.

    In the third to last episode, it would end with Zs'Skayr surprising Ben and entering his body in an attempt to possess him. This would happen off screen in an attempt to keep it a secret from the audience and to also build up on a plot twist and to build up tension. Ben would act as if he's petrified and filled with fear knowng what just happened to him but wouldn't be able to warn anyone because Zs'Skayr would prevent him from doing so.

    In the second to last episode, Ben would go through a mental battle to fight off Zs'Skayr's control but it would be a losing battle. As I stated before, the outcome of Zs'Skayr eventually being able to take control of Ben would result in Gwen being severely injured, knocked unconscious, or die only to be later revived but Ben would believe that Gwen died, thus leaving Ben mentally weak and vulnerable enough for Zs'Skayr to take absolute full control of Ben's body.

    In the final episode, Zs'Skayr would only have control of Ben's body for somewhere between I'd say half the final episode. Gwen would be revived and go out to save Ben and the rest of the story that I explained would happen. Either way, Zs'Skayr would only have control of Ben's body for half of the final episode where Zs'Skayr would battle it out with Gwen. The other half of the final episode would be Gwen searching for and finding Ben within his mind and then Ben managing to defeat Zs'Skayr and entrap him deep within Ben's mind, stopping Zs'Skayr for good.

    That's my approach for the length at which Zs'Skayr would possess Ben.

  • Its a very interesting idea it reminds me of marvels jessica jones where as ben and jessica alike have no control over their actions while being possessed ands its even more funny that both Zs'Skayr and the purple man/Kilgraves main colors are purple. Ben would be traumatized just like jessica is. It would add a new layer to the show in that it shows that even though ben and jessica alike have super powers in those moments they are completely powerless. I can even see the ending being how bens will forces ghostfreak out just like how Jessicas unwillingness to kill a person made purple man lose his grip on her and never ben able to control her again.

  • Its a very interesting idea it reminds me of marvels jessica jones where as ben and jessica alike have no control over their actions while being possessed ands its even more funny that both Zs'Skayr and the purple man/Kilgraves main colors are purple. Ben would be traumatized just like jessica is. It would add a new layer to the show in that it shows that even though ben and jessica alike have super powers in those moments they are completely powerless. I can even see the ending being how bens will forces ghostfreak out just like how Jessicas unwillingness to kill a person made purple man lose his grip on her and never ben able to control her again.

    @Omni-Triforcer Nice comparison. My ending though would be that Ben would eventually overpower Zs'Skayr and then leave him trapped deep inside Ben's mind. Kind of like in Batman Arkham Knight. I mentioned this ending in my third to last paragraph of my first post on this page. Still, it's a nice comparison. I'm not much into Jessica Jones though. I'm not really a Marvel fan here.

  • Yeah im a big marvel fan so its nice to find something to compare it to totally different tones but could have a similar story. Yeah i saw that in your 3rd paragraph you just wrote so much i kinda just skimmed it.

  • Yeah im a big marvel fan so its nice to find something to compare it to totally different tones but could have a similar story. Yeah i saw that in your 3rd paragraph you just wrote so much i kinda just skimmed it.

    @Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I know I type a lot. It's something that I just ended up getting into the habit of when discussing my thoughts and opinions and ideas.

  • Lol must make writing essays easy for you. I could think paragraphs about this but when it comes to putting it on paper or screen in this case i just cant write alot. Its very interesting because when you think about it Zs'skayr is a very power villian in that he not only controls people he has a whole army of ectonurites by his side. Anyone else think its super creepy when he controls someone and there body kinda cracks especially considering that when ben controls someone they dont crack.

  • Lol must make writing essays easy for you. I could think paragraphs about this but when it comes to putting it on paper or screen in this case i just cant write alot. Its very interesting because when you think about it Zs'skayr is a very power villian in that he not only controls people he has a whole army of ectonurites by his side. Anyone else think its super creepy when he controls someone and there body kinda cracks especially considering that when ben controls someone they dont crack.

    @Omni-Triforcer Sometimes, certain subjects that I want to discuss just pops into my head. After some thinking with those subjects, I already pretty much got what I want and need to talk about ready to go and typed onto these posts. It could take me at least half an hour to type up an entire page worth of stuff once I know what I'm going to put down.

    That last part with Zs'Skayr and Ben controlling people is, I believe, an oversight in Omniverse. I think really if Ben used Ghostfreak to possess and control someone, we would get the same cracks on those people's bodies that we would see with Zs'Skayr. I take it you saw the fan art and fan fiction that I linked, huh?

  • yeah i did see the fan art but i was thinking about Gwen and some of the kids in the episode being possessed they all get cracks but when Ben possesses someone (i cant think of any specific time at the moment) they don't crack.

  • yeah i did see the fan art but i was thinking about Gwen and some of the kids in the episode being possessed they all get cracks but when Ben possesses someone (i cant think of any specific time at the moment) they don't crack.

    @Omni-Triforcer I believe Ben only used Ghostfreak to possess someone in Omniverse. No attempt in the Original Series because Ben didn't even know he could do that with Ghostfreak. No attempt in Alien Force because Ben didn't have and never used Ghostfreak. Maybe an attempt Ultimate Alien but it failed. It was only Omniverse with possibly only Michael Morningstar. Again, likely an oversight. I even doubt the writers of Omniverse even watched the Original Series or didn't watch it enough.

  • yeah i dont think darkstar had cracks when he was possessed. I dont remember did Zs'Skayr possess someone in omniverse?

  • yeah i dont think darkstar had cracks when he was possessed. I dont remember did Zs'Skayr possess someone in omniverse?

    @Omni-Triforcer Omniverse episode "From Hedorium to Eternity" and guess what, no cracks on anyone that was possessed by any Ectonurite; even from Zs'Skayr. Everyone that was possessed only closed one of their eyes to signify Ectonurites only having one eye. Another reason why that episode is one of the worse episodes in Omniverse, alongside all the ridiculous and stupid continuity errors. That episode was only there for fan service too. There was no reason for it to be there and it was just a waste of an episode.

    http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/From_Hedorium_to_Eternity/Gallery

  • @Omni-Triforcer Omniverse episode "From Hedorium to Eternity" and guess what, no cracks on anyone that was possessed by any Ectonurite; even from Zs'Skayr. Everyone that was possessed only closed one of their eyes to signify Ectonurites only having one eye. Another reason why that episode is one of the worse episodes in Omniverse, alongside all the ridiculous and stupid continuity errors. That episode was only there for fan service too. There was no reason for it to be there and it was just a waste of an episode.

    http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/From_Hedorium_to_Eternity/Gallery

    @Tactical-Ochoa said:

    @Omni-Triforcer Omniverse episode "From Hedorium to Eternity" and guess what, no cracks on anyone that was possessed by any Ectonurite; even from Zs'Skayr. Everyone that was possessed only closed one of their eyes to signify Ectonurites only having one eye. Another reason why that episode is one of the worse episodes in Omniverse, alongside all the ridiculous and stupid continuity errors. That episode was only there for fan service too. There was no reason for it to be there and it was just a waste of an episode.

    http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/From_Hedorium_to_Eternity/Gallery

    Oh that episode ugh that episode really got me annoyed all the continuity errors a character that came outta nowhere and ben and kevin supposidly like kevin now when they didnt like him till af. I dont see how that episode was fanservice though besides that fact that it was centered around young ben

  • @Tactical-Ochoa said:

    @Omni-Triforcer Omniverse episode "From Hedorium to Eternity" and guess what, no cracks on anyone that was possessed by any Ectonurite; even from Zs'Skayr. Everyone that was possessed only closed one of their eyes to signify Ectonurites only having one eye. Another reason why that episode is one of the worse episodes in Omniverse, alongside all the ridiculous and stupid continuity errors. That episode was only there for fan service too. There was no reason for it to be there and it was just a waste of an episode.

    http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/From_Hedorium_to_Eternity/Gallery

    Oh that episode ugh that episode really got me annoyed all the continuity errors a character that came outta nowhere and ben and kevin supposidly like kevin now when they didnt like him till af. I dont see how that episode was fanservice though besides that fact that it was centered around young ben

    @Omni-Triforcer Yeah, that's what I meant by fan service. It solely focused on young Ben and Gwen. Well, at least that's what I believe is what made that episode fan service or something.

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