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Ben Prime Wasn't In The Reboot By The Ink Tank

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  • @coreofthesun From what I recall, there were creative differences between Man of Action and Cartoon Network in regards to making a sequel to the Original Series. Cartoon Network eventually decided to have a different team take over the project.

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    @Tactical-Ochoa said in Ben Prime Wasn't In The Reboot By The Ink Tank:

    @coreofthesun From what I recall, there were creative differences between Man of Action and Cartoon Network in regards to making a sequel to the Original Series. Cartoon Network eventually decided to have a different team take over the project.

    Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens again. From what we know, Man of Action isn't happy with Cartoon Network's vision of the franchise based on comments from Duncan Rouleau. I wouldn't be surprised if CN ends up decided to have another team takeover Ben 10. Personally, I wouldn't be opposed to this. I prefer a more story driven series of Ben 10 and think that the next step for the franchise is a Ben in his 20s that will eventually lead into Ben becoming Ben 10k. I feel like for a show like that, it needs to be story driven, with a serious tone and serious threat.

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    @cooljay7 Personally I don’t mind which direction we go so long as the new show is made to be an engaging series first and foremost. In the event of a 2nd OS sequel the later installements wouldn’t be thrown to the wayside, since the new series would be a different continuity. All of them would still exist and be watchable.

    As for the structure of whatever new series we get, it should be ideally story driven (though the odd filler episode is fine as long as it is good). I don’t think that the series should be super mature and gritty all the time but it should definitely have proper stakes, something that for the most part was lacking in the reboot and even in Omniverse for a lot of the time. And character development - we need to see Ben and the supporting cast grow as people and mature but still maintain their distinct and unique personalities to make them feel like people.

    Though I think that a series with Ben in his 20s is the most logical thing to happen but I’m not sure whether the creators want to go back to that, hence why I thought that they may do a new sequel.

  • @cooljay7 Personally I don’t mind which direction we go so long as the new show is made to be an engaging series first and foremost. In the event of a 2nd OS sequel the later installements wouldn’t be thrown to the wayside, since the new series would be a different continuity. All of them would still exist and be watchable.

    As for the structure of whatever new series we get, it should be ideally story driven (though the odd filler episode is fine as long as it is good). I don’t think that the series should be super mature and gritty all the time but it should definitely have proper stakes, something that for the most part was lacking in the reboot and even in Omniverse for a lot of the time. And character development - we need to see Ben and the supporting cast grow as people and mature but still maintain their distinct and unique personalities to make them feel like people.

    Though I think that a series with Ben in his 20s is the most logical thing to happen but I’m not sure whether the creators want to go back to that, hence why I thought that they may do a new sequel.

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    @coreofthesun I don't know if you guys have seen this video by D.C. Network (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7bb8luLgo) but I think this is the best case scenario if they decided to make a sequel to the original series. A show like this would fill in the gaps of the current storyline and would also make fans happy who want a continuation to the OS.

  • @coreofthesun I don't know if you guys have seen this video by D.C. Network (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X7bb8luLgo) but I think this is the best case scenario if they decided to make a sequel to the original series. A show like this would fill in the gaps of the current storyline and would also make fans happy who want a continuation to the OS.

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    @cooljay7 Speaking of D.C. Network, looks like he wants to partner up with the Ben 10 Club to try and convince Cartoon Network to return Ben 10 back to the original continuity.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DCNetwork23/status/1382748961446985732

  • @cooljay7 Speaking of D.C. Network, looks like he wants to partner up with the Ben 10 Club to try and convince Cartoon Network to return Ben 10 back to the original continuity.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DCNetwork23/status/1382748961446985732

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    @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah I saw that. Did whoever runs the Ben 10 club twitter reach out to him?

  • @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah I saw that. Did whoever runs the Ben 10 club twitter reach out to him?

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    @cooljay7 I'm not sure yet.

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    I can confirm we reached out to them.

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    Crazy theory, but what if Cartoon Network starts listening to us fans if their are enough of us? It would have been wicked cool if the fans got to decide what happens in the future of the franchise!

  • Crazy theory, but what if Cartoon Network starts listening to us fans if their are enough of us? It would have been wicked cool if the fans got to decide what happens in the future of the franchise!

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    @Mortie-10 I think it's possible they do if there is enough fan involvement. If it happened with Star Wars The Clone Wars, why can't it happen with Ben 10.

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    What would be the best way to do it without pushing creators away from the Ben 10 fandom. They are getting annoyed with the #restoretheomniverse hashtag.

  • What would be the best way to do it without pushing creators away from the Ben 10 fandom. They are getting annoyed with the #restoretheomniverse hashtag.

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    @npzman I've seen people say that they are getting annoyed but haven't seen anyone involved with Ben 10 say that. I think it's fine to tweet out #RestoreTheOmniverse as long as it's being done in a respectful manner.

  • @Mortie-10 I think it's possible they do if there is enough fan involvement. If it happened with Star Wars The Clone Wars, why can't it happen with Ben 10.

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    @cooljay7 Granted, Cartoon Network isn't Disney and, as far as I can tell, Cartoon Network seems to have quite an issue with listening to their audience and making all sorts of bad decisions. I mean, christ, they're bringing back a pre-school and live-action block. Mind you, the last time Cartoon Network did a live-action block, it nearly killed the network. Hopefully things are changing for the better though.

  • @cooljay7 Granted, Cartoon Network isn't Disney and, as far as I can tell, Cartoon Network seems to have quite an issue with listening to their audience and making all sorts of bad decisions. I mean, christ, they're bringing back a pre-school and live-action block. Mind you, the last time Cartoon Network did a live-action block, it nearly killed the network. Hopefully things are changing for the better though.

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    @Tactical-Ochoa The thing is that we aren't Cartoon Network's audience. They target a much younger demographic and I know that back in the day when live action was on the network, the target demographic enjoyed it. As much as I'm not a fan of live action returning, it might be something that the current generation of kids enjoy.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa The thing is that we aren't Cartoon Network's audience. They target a much younger demographic and I know that back in the day when live action was on the network, the target demographic enjoyed it. As much as I'm not a fan of live action returning, it might be something that the current generation of kids enjoy.

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    @cooljay7 Are you sure about that? Again, the live-action block that Cartoon Network did before nearly killed the network. It performed that badly. It failed miserably. No one wants for live-action to return to Cartoon Network. Therefore, I highly doubt that the younger demographic enjoyed it.

    Speaking of said younger demographic, they say that the shows are "made for kids," but I don't think that's actually the case here. One of the major complaints towards Cartoon Network that I noticed was how even though it's said that many of their current line of shows were made for kids, they don't feel like they're actually made for kids. One person that I follow on Twitter sums those cartoons up as "coffee shop cartoons," as in they're made specifically for young adults. College students trying to be hip and progressive or something of the likes.

    Cartoon Network's ratings have been dropping in recent years. And no, I don't mean just TV-wise. Streaming-wise, they're losing viewers as well, including kids (link below). The very demographic that Cartoon Network says they're catering towards are not watching their shows. Kids have been looking at Cartoon Network's current line of shows, don't like what they're seeing, and instead gravitated towards Netflix and YouTube. If you're a young adult (more specifically a young college student trying to be hip and progressive), you actually are Cartoon Network's currently targeted demographic, even though they're saying otherwise, and that's proving to be a problem for Cartoon Network because, again, their ratings have been dropping and are continuing to drop. More and more kids have stopped watching Cartoon Network. I have a feeling that Cartoon Network don't even realize why given the current decisions that they're making.

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    Didn't D.C Network had a account in the Ben 10 Club?

  • I wish I could punch Kuro in the face right now! OF COURSE IT WAS BEN PRIME IN THE SPECIAL! All four of them was Ben Prime, just from different periods in time. Kuro is just a stupid guy who thinks he is the god of Ben 10 for whatever reason. I honestly hate him, and Im tired of everyone adoring him.

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    @Mortie-10 hey I always liked Ben

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    I really hope Ben Prime comes back, or else the special have no point in excisting.
  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot: Final Thoughts

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    @Ebomnitrix You make some good points. Yeah, Ben 10 is more successful internationally (although, of course that would be the case since that you're comparing the United States to...well...the rest of the world so I don't find that to be a fair comparison) but that doesn't mean that we should get a show that is of mediocre, or at the very least lower, quality. Yes, they should try to take a different approach considering that it's a reboot but they also need to make sure that this show is an improvement over the previous shows as well. To me, there is no excuse for a show to be of lower quality and that includes the one that you gave. Even then, come on. We all know that Cartoon Network really had this show made just to sell more merchandise. This is Cartoon Network here being the Cartoon Network of today that so many are getting so sick and tired of. It wasn't made for the new generation of kids. It wasn't made for international viewers. That's really just bullshit. This show was really made to sell more merchandise. I also try not to look at things from a nostalgic perspective when discussing such topics like this as well. I make sure to look at things from a more...I guess "objective" is the right word...perspective. Or maybe "analytical" is a better word to use. Either way, I try not to look at things to nostalgically because I don't want to be biased. Even when compared to other recent Cartoon Network shows like Clarence, Steven Universe, Uncle Grandpa, the Powerpuff Girls reboot, We Bare Bears, etc, the Ben 10 reboot doesn't have a lot of substance to it because it's just so similar to those other shows. Even when I don't compare it to the original Ben 10 show or even the sequel shows, I don't find the Ben 10 reboot to be a good show; especially when it comes to the writing and direction. If the Ben 10 reboot really was a good show, I would be more than happy to praise it. However, the Ben 10 reboot is not a good show. At best, it's average but this is a mediocre show that, like I said, was made just to sell more merchandise.
  • Ben 10 (Reboot) CN France Promo

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    @Ebomnitrix said in Ben 10 (Reboot) CN France Promo: From what I've seen in the promo, and what TacticalOchoa said. It's Clown College. Ben's fear of clowns being gone, I'm not as surprised about, but if they took that away, I'm gonna be shocked what else they take away, his allergy to peanuts? I wish this promo was in English, I wanna hear who plays Cannonbolt. Tbh I'm excited to see this episode, just to see how Cannonbolt's role will play out and who else will show up. Is it me, or is every episode gonna star Ben and Gwen, and Max will barely be in this show at all. Cause from the looks of it, I'm getting that vibe. I seriously want more footage though, cause I wanna see the other aliens in action, and hear their English voices. Well actually this is the first footage we have got of cannonbolt actually doing stuff. Im want to see some actual footage of overflow and see how different he is from water hazard.
  • Ben 10 Reboot whish

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    @KorseBLI-ND But how can they kevin death let go if he was still alive when Ben was 15 and 16 years old. And if they would ever do, would not beat the story.And MOA keven would never let it go dead. Kevin is one of the main troll players in Ben 10
  • Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot

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    I split the topic and moved it to Ben 10 reboot section. http://ben10club.org/topic/121/addressing-the-ben-10-reboot-which-is-actually-a-remake-and-not-a-reboot/3 I am now locking this topic.