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Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions

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  • I was watching that 4 hours ago
    I think we speak for everybody saying that the biggest screw up was no Paul Eiding.
    Gwen we all know is replaceable, but Max... is just... that's where you screw up...

    @Ebomnitrix Noooooo. The biggest screw up is going for this reboot in the first place and making it the way that it is right now while putting in little to no effort into it while also having little to no care and respect for the franchise, the fans, the new generation, etc. That is the biggest screw up here.

    As for Gwen, no. Much like with Max, she's not replaceable either. Like with Paul Eiding portraying Max, no one has done a much better job with Gwen than Meagan Smith. Much like with Tara Strong to Ben and Paul Eiding to Max, Meagan Smith helped define Gwen as a character. She made Gwen stand out the most. She gave the best performance for Gwen. She helped make Gwen an iconic character. If they really cared for and respected the Ben 10 series, not only would Paul Eiding be voicing Max right now but there would've been a good chance that they would've brought back Meagan Smith as well instead of having Montserrat Hernandez portray her. Hernandez is ok but she has done nothing to define Gwen and make her stand out in a good way. Instead, Hernandez has contributed to making Gwen at her most unlikable state and helped portray Gwen at her worst. If I was in charge of the voicing department, I wouldn't even give Hernandez a chance and would immediately focus on getting Meagan Smith back on board. I would be fine with Hernandez voicing a different character but I wouldn't let her touch Gwen.

  • @Ebomnitrix Noooooo. The biggest screw up is going for this reboot in the first place and making it the way that it is right now while putting in little to no effort into it while also having little to no care and respect for the franchise, the fans, the new generation, etc. That is the biggest screw up here.

    As for Gwen, no. Much like with Max, she's not replaceable either. Like with Paul Eiding portraying Max, no one has done a much better job with Gwen than Meagan Smith. Much like with Tara Strong to Ben and Paul Eiding to Max, Meagan Smith helped define Gwen as a character. She made Gwen stand out the most. She gave the best performance for Gwen. She helped make Gwen an iconic character. If they really cared for and respected the Ben 10 series, not only would Paul Eiding be voicing Max right now but there would've been a good chance that they would've brought back Meagan Smith as well instead of having Montserrat Hernandez portray her. Hernandez is ok but she has done nothing to define Gwen and make her stand out in a good way. Instead, Hernandez has contributed to making Gwen at her most unlikable state and helped portray Gwen at her worst. If I was in charge of the voicing department, I wouldn't even give Hernandez a chance and would immediately focus on getting Meagan Smith back on board. I would be fine with Hernandez voicing a different character but I wouldn't let her touch Gwen.

    @Tactical-Ochoa I honestly didn't like Meagen Smith all that much, her voice got quite annoying after a while and I wasn't big with Ashley Johnson either, I prefer Tara Strong voicing her to be honest, I loved her take as adult Gwen and I'm sure she can pull off a young and teenage Gwen. To bad we will not see that happen though, instead of her playing Ben probably forever with nothing new.

  • I have no problem with the new voices, it gives the series a fresh feel. I kinda want new voices for Ben and Gwen here in Brazil since Charles Emmanuel and Ana LĂșcia Menezes have been voicing them since the original series. Charles is an amazing VA but sadly his voice doesn't fit young Ben anymore and Ana LĂșcia is very good as well but she never bothered to make young Gwen sound like a child in first place. But going back to the voices from the original version, I have absolutely nothing against David, Montserrat and the other new VAs.

  • I wonder whether there are similar events in other countries ?

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  • @Rexfan1333 I think one of the biggest problems with the reboot is the whole comedy aspect of it cuz ManOfAction are used to writing more serious shows so I think that since they made it a bit more "child friendly" they're having a hard time writing for it because it doesn't really seem like they're losing their touch its more like they're getting accustomed to writing for a younger audience

    @JrPhilgene I also got the feeling Charmcaster is not going to appear. It's sad, but I hope she might come in eventually because she is my favourite character.

  • @JrPhilgene I also got the feeling Charmcaster is not going to appear. It's sad, but I hope she might come in eventually because she is my favourite character.

    @Rexfan1333 she has too appear it's because of her that Gwen got her powers

  • @Rexfan1333 she has too appear it's because of her that Gwen got her powers

    @JrPhilgene True, she has to appear at some point because she's just as important to the series as Kevin and Vilgax.

  • @JrPhilgene True, she has to appear at some point because she's just as important to the series as Kevin and Vilgax.

    @Rexfan1333 yup I do think that she won't be in as much episodes as she did in the Os but she will end up in the reboot

  • @Rexfan1333 yup I do think that she won't be in as much episodes as she did in the Os but she will end up in the reboot

    @JrPhilgene Yeah, I don't mind her as a minor character. Just as long as she's present in the series. I also got ideas of writing a fanfic on my take on the reboot. It will have the origin story and old and new characters returning.

  • @JrPhilgene Yeah, I don't mind her as a minor character. Just as long as she's present in the series. I also got ideas of writing a fanfic on my take on the reboot. It will have the origin story and old and new characters returning.

    @Rexfan1333 Cool. I would like to see it when its finished.

  • @Rexfan1333 Cool. I would like to see it when its finished.

    @Mortie-10 Thanks, but I will keep Ben 10 years old as well as the outfit (I like it better than his original series look), but slowly have him grow mentally and physically as the story progresses. And Julie will also appear as well as classic and new characters.

  • @Mortie-10 Thanks, but I will keep Ben 10 years old as well as the outfit (I like it better than his original series look), but slowly have him grow mentally and physically as the story progresses. And Julie will also appear as well as classic and new characters.

    @Rexfan1333 this would make for an awesome show

  • FINALLY, A LITTLE POSITIVITY!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7ztSvyP4Q

  • @Ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:

    FINALLY, A LITTLE POSITIVITY!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7ztSvyP4Q

    Well i wouldn't call it positivity but its not negativity.

  • @Ebomnitrix That's definitely not a positive review. He's just basically saying that it's average. Not bad, not good, just average.

  • @Ebomnitrix That's definitely not a positive review. He's just basically saying that it's average. Not bad, not good, just average.

    @Tactical-Ochoa I haven't watched reviews for the reboot because of them just yelling and crying like immature brats about how much they hate the reboot, but I do like Cartoon Hangout, his reviews for the episodes are great and I do agree with him. Sad thing is that Man Of Action pretty much written the "just meh" episodes, it feels like they are not use to this format at all or just not use to writing for children. (Ultimate Spider-Man being a good example of trying to get kids attention)

  • @Tactical-Ochoa I haven't watched reviews for the reboot because of them just yelling and crying like immature brats about how much they hate the reboot, but I do like Cartoon Hangout, his reviews for the episodes are great and I do agree with him. Sad thing is that Man Of Action pretty much written the "just meh" episodes, it feels like they are not use to this format at all or just not use to writing for children. (Ultimate Spider-Man being a good example of trying to get kids attention)

    @Rexfan1333 it's true cause man of action are better writers than this

  • @Rexfan1333 it's true cause man of action are better writers than this

    @JrPhilgene Yeah, they written Generator Rex and Big Hero 6 for crying out loud, I feel that CN is in too much control of the reboot (all their shows are simplistic, 11 minutes, and comedic) what the heck does CN have against action shows now? This is getting ridiculous.

  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Charm Offensive

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    @csgt I do agree with you on Charmcaster's UAF design. Granted, as shown in the quote that you're using to respond to, that's not the point that I'm addressing here. I'm not stating that Charmcaster's UAF design looks unique overall. I'm stating that it looks better and more unique than Charmcaster's reboot design. Even though her UAF design isn't really unique on its own, is most certainly not a design that I like and favor, and doesn't even hold a candle to Charmcaster's OS design, it is a better and more visually unique design when compared to Charmcaster's reboot design, which, again, looks very much like a typical and generic Goth girl. Considering how they've handled the Ben 10 reboot so far, I doubt that they're going to make a connection between Hex and Charmcaster in the reboot. Her first name being Hope and the concept of Ledgerdomain itself are pretty much the only things related to Charmcaster in UAF that I liked. Ledgerdomain does have some nice potential and Hope sounds pretty ironic considering what Charmcaster went through with Hex before the events of the Original Series. Everything else with Charmcaster in UAF is stuff that I don't like. I most especially don't like how they handled her relationship with Hex in UAF though given that it very much conflicts with what was established with them in the OS. Granted, you do make a good point. Charmcaster, and Hex, were terribly handled and written in the sequel shows. However, when it came down to Charmcaster as a character, I really only compared the reboot Charmcaster to the OS Charmcaster because yeah, Charmcaster went through a pretty severe downgrade in the sequel shows and Charmcaster was at her best in the OS. I do have an interest in making an article about Charmcaster and analyzing her as a character, much like how I did with other characters such as Julie Yamamoto and Professor Paradox. I know for sure that this Charmcaster article is going to address the points about her in UAF that you made here.
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    There are some issues people aren't realizing though, most people want to watch shows online, not just for free and to avoid ads, but to just watch everything faster and avoid all the crappy shows the network has to offer. Cartoon Network barely makes a million views now because they're focusing on a streaming service that nobody is going to use. Boomerang will be a shock if there is enough people touching it but overall CN is going to screw themselves over if they focus more on the business and not the channel itself, which they haven't been doing since 2015. They maybe thinking TTG is going to lead them to success but they're wrong if they think only airing a handful of all the shows you're making right now is going to do anything, if you have 20 shows and only air 5 and a movie we've already seen a million times, its not going to do enough for the network to last much longer, take a look at what happened to Nickelodeon, they've been losing money to the point where they lost the amusement park, and I doubt anybody really watches the award shows anymore. And another thing to mention, the only way to get ratings is a Nielsen box or to have Xfinity, they won't count the ratings any other cable providers offers so the ratings wouldn't do much since it only goes to those people. Now for what reason I don't know, but since a lot less people either don't have those boxes and prefer watching shows online, even on properties like KissCartoon/KissAsian, WatchCartoonsOnline, Animeflavor, Gogoanime, you name it, and its a long list.
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  • Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Clocktopus

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    After some thinking, I realized something that I forgot to mention. On its own and when compared to the Original Series episode, Last Laugh (considering that both episodes use the same story premise in regards to Ben dealing with his own fears), The Clocktopus is still not a good episode. It still suffers from poor writing and I mentioned other aspects of this episode that also holds it back. However, when compared to other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot show, it is a better episode. Despite the problems that I have with Steam Smythe, I still like the theme of his character and he is at least a better villain than the other villains that were showcased in the reboot. He's just an annoying villain much like with the Weatherheads and, at least to me, the writers just exaggerated a little too much to him or something of the likes. Like I said, there was some potential with this villain. Like I also said before, at least Ben's fear of squids does give him some struggle with fighting Steam Smythe and thus helps to make the conflict a little more challenging. So yeah, even though I find that the episode still had some really poor writing and the episode itself is still not good, it is better than the other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot. However, considering the quality of the other episodes of the Ben 10 reboot, that's not saying much. At best this episode is just average.
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