Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2
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@Ebomnitrix That info was already given some time last year when chronosapien234 leaked the early artwork of the reboot.
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The voice of one New Vllain
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It's Action Time!
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@Ebomnitrix said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
I never want any of those shows associated with ben 10
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I hope you guys are happy with your "Believe in Ben 10 campaign" we got a reboot alright, but they didn't listen to a damn thing you guys said. Instead we are getting poorly animated, immature piece of crap just like TTG and PPG... they specifically stated its not going to be focused on action but rather comedy...
#NoNewFans #NoOldFans
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@iamre said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
I hope you guys are happy with your "Believe in Ben 10 campaign" we got a reboot alright, but they didn't listen to a damn thing you guys said. Instead we are getting poorly animated, immature piece of crap just like TTG and PPG... they specifically stated its not going to be focused on action but rather comedy...
#NoNewFans #NoOldFans
https://www.change.org/p/cartoon-network-dear-cartoon-network-bring-back-the-shows-with-qualityLearn your facts before you throw this at us dude. They specifically said it will be a mix of action and comedy ANd 2nd are you blaming us for this reboot?
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Everyone's complaining because of the animation and voice actors, when we haven't even seen a story written so far. The animation is not that bad, it fits how modern shows are doing it, in fact its more enhanced than the ones airing right now but aside that, People are just trying to find things to complain about, that's half the reason this show is getting crapped on, and its because its not the shit they grew up with, and that's what annoys me, you can't expect to grow up with something if you don't expect it to change, it's gonna change no matter how people complain, plus we got like 3 voice actors back in that show, 4 if they actually asked Paul Eiding to come back as Max, but I pretty much doubt anyone else would've returned, especially people who haven't voiced since the original show.
But my point standing is, trying to do shit like that is stupid, making petitions that won't work to bring "SHOWS WE LIKE" back. Cartoon Network is a kids network now, people who want it to be a 90s network to only make shows for those who grew up with the 90s and not for anyone for the new generation need to seriously stop their crap.
I'm sorry if this feels random or out of the blue, but I keep hearing complaints about this OVER AND OVER again, there's only one real bad show (TTG) that has no effort into it. Everything else is far decent that's good enough to be considered a good CN show. But my point stands to where its not a network for adults anymore, maybe for some shows that is tolerable, but enough asking for CN to be run that particular way, its never going to get anywhere, even if there's enough people to complain about it. Once the CN Asia Schedule Guy, and the CN president step down, only then can CN really be fixed, so stop trying to force something out there, okay?
Let Ben 10 be its own thing for its own audience and quit asking for shows like animes and shows only people that are teens and above are going to get. Ben 10 is for the next generation of kids, that's why its going in this direction, and even I who still am a fan of Ben 10 see that this is tolerable, its not another TTG or PPG, it is its own thing. OKAY!?
(Sorry for the random outburst, I'm just getting tired of this discussion being brought up)
It's Action Time!
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@Ebomnitrix Oh most people are definitely complaining and criticizing the Ben 10 reboot for more than just the animation and voice actors. Here's another thing that I'm discovering as well. Cartoon Network is making this reboot for the "new generation of kids." I'm starting to find comments and statements on the internet (mostly YouTube) that are from those very type of kids expressing their dislike, disinterest, and unfavorable views on the Ben 10 reboot as well. Most of the fans and viewers of Ben 10 and Cartoon Network don't favor this reboot and now even the "new generation of kids" are starting to show that they don't favor the reboot as well. I believe a major aspect of that could be from Cartoon Network doing a rerun of the Ben 10 OS. Most of the fans don't like this reboot. The "new generation of kids" are starting to not like this reboot. Who is this reboot going to be for at this point?
You may not like the reception that the Ben 10 reboot is getting right now but too bad. The majority has spoken. Each individual's views and opinions may be subjective but when it comes to the overall reception and majority, that's when we reach the point of objectivity. Some of you find the art style and animation to be ok but the majority considers it to be crap. Some of you find the designs of the characters and aliens to be ok or good but the majority says otherwise. Some of you are ok with the comedy in the reboot but not the majority. And so on.
If the Ben 10 reboot doesn't deliver in quality and gets critically panned by fans, viewers, and likely even critics, it will be considered as an objectively terrible show, no matter how much some of you say how good it is. The overall reception and majority is what will affect the Ben 10 reboot the most here, much like how it's affecting the PPG reboot right now as that show was critically panned by critics, fans, and viewers and is actually currently struggling with viewer ratings right now.
Do shows and networks go through change? Yes, they very much do but people are still not going to like those very changes and that doesn't mean that those changes are going to favor the shows and network. People are also going to make demands for changes as well because they want things to change and improve for the better, which is one major reason why there is so much criticism and dislike towards the Ben 10 reboot. In situations like this, the best course of action would usually be for shows and networks to go back to their old roots. After all, if the old roots worked before, they should work again now, right? The answer is usually yes. Resident Evil changed from horror to action and this had caused a major disfavor among fans, thus leading to Capcom to finally listen to their fans and take Resident Evil back into horror, garnering much praise. Doom 3 was a good game but many didn't like direction towards horror and Doom 2016 almost became another COD clone game but id Software and Bethesda decided instead to go back to the old roots for Doom 2016 and right now, that game is considered as objectively one of the best video games of 2016. Cartoon Network very much was at their best back in the 1990s and 2000s. As stated by the YouTuber, FutureGohanSSJ2, in his video explaining the state of Cartoon Network (I posted said video in the State of Cartoon Network page) they were on the top of the world when it came to cartoons. Now, the changes that were made and the way that Cartoon Network is nowadays, the network is now a lifeless shadow of its former self. If Cartoon Network wants to make changes, improvements, and a turning point for the better, they better listen to everyone that's criticizing them and they better go back to their old roots because that's one of the best ways and directions that they can take to make them a great network again. That they will have to eventually stop being a network that's just for only kids and go back to their old roots where they were a network that makes cartoons and animated shows for anyone and everyone. Otherwise, Cartoon Network is pretty much done for.
So yeah, some of you may not like how so many fans and viewers are complaining and criticizing the Ben 10 reboot and Cartoon Network's other shows but regardless, you're in the minority and they're in the majority and the majority is always going to out speak and drown out the minority. That's just how it works and don't tell me that that's not how it works because I have seen this happen way too many times now. If the Ben 10 reboot doesn't deliver and the majority speaks out against it, that becomes objective now. If the majority and overall reception says that the Ben 10 reboot is terrible, it becomes objective, no matter how much any of you say how good it is. Whatever the majority and overall reception will say about the Ben 10 reboot will become objective.
The reason for saying all of this is largely, if not mostly, because I want you guys to be aware of this. To give you all that favors the reboot a chance to think about this and thus prepare for it. To expect the unexpected and prepare for the worse.
@iamre As for you, that's enough now. I know that you don't like the reboot (and of course I don't like the reboot either) but I don't want you to push things too far here. Omni-Tirforcer does have a good point here. If you're going to make comments like that, it would be best recommended to back up your opinions and arguments with good research and better structuring. At this point, I wouldn't really even bother about that petition at this moment. Maybe later though. If you want to keep expressing those very views and opinions that you have on the reboot, Ben 10, and Cartoon Network as a whole as well as keep pushing for more signatures for your petition, go ahead. That's all up to you. You have the freedom to do so. I would again recommend that you do better research and improve your structuring though because yeah, you are pretty much pushing things too far there. That's my recommendation at least.
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Dr animos frog? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gXZ01ahLQM
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@Ebomnitrix You're right. Man of Action should hire Paul Eiding back as the voice of Grandpa Max on the Ben 10 Reboot cartoon series besides his voice as Grandpa Max is better just like he did in the last 4 Ben 10 cartoon franchises.
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We're now 2 weeks prior to the world premiere of the Ben 10 Reboot.
Is anyone at all hyped besides me?It's Action Time!
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@Ebomnitrix Nope. Not me but everyone already knows about that from me.
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''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
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@james Well the background art looks like absolute crap. It looks like a couple of kids with crayons drew them and yet unfortunately this was made by a team of professional artists.. Also, pop culture references. It also looks like Ben and Gwen are going to be recording all sorts of videos of Ben using his aliens. Possibly to upload them on YouTube or something or who knows what.
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@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
Wait. So we get a Episode this weekend at 10 Am?
Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun
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@Ben-10-Fan No it says every weekend at 10am. That's the schedule for the reboot after the premiere.
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....Diamondhead was actually funny
as for Upgrade, I'm curious how he could merge with a wooden skateboard... but that was still funny.
I actually got some laughs out of it.It's Action Time!
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Love to see more Bentuition shorts featuring Grandpa Max that'll be cool.
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@Ebomnitrix Yeah I didn't find those shorts funny at all and I have a really good sense of humor as well. Instead of being more subtle and clever with the comedy, it's more over-the-top and overly exaggerated much like with Cartoon Network's other recent shows. It doesn't work for a show that's supposed to be an action show. Comedy in action shows usually work at their best when it's clever and more subtle. It doesn't help either that this show also relies on pop culture references (that will get outdated quite quickly if not already being outdated) to sell the comedy as well.
