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    • RE: Derrick J Wyatt: Issues I have with him

      You have every right to dislike the fact that Omniverse retconned/ignored many things UAF had established before. But, to be fair, I gotta say UAF did to OS the exact same OV did to UAF. Dwayne and co retconned almost everything Man of Action created from Original Series.

      Jetray never even got an appearance, since derrick didn't like him. Check. Many classic aliens, like XLR8, Upgrade, Wildvine and Grey Matter never showed up in UAF.
      Retconing Kevin's backstory? Check. Alien Force actually was the first show to retcon Kevin's entire past.
      Changing histories and backgrounds of people? Check. Example: Kevin and Gwen became aliens in UAF, when they were not aliens in OS. (By the way, Cooper was supposed to be a mutant in OS too)
      Getting rid of the something he didn't like it instead of finding a purpose for it? Check. Original Earth Plumbers gone, and replaced with the Intergalactic Plumbers.

      So, unfortunately, changing things is a common mistake most writers do. That's why I agree with Man of Action recent interview that labeled all the Ben 10 sequel shows as 'reboots' too. It's best to think of each series as a separate continuity.

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    • Ben 10 Comic Book Reboot

      With us all talking about a Ben 10 reboot made by another company not involving Cartoon Network, an idea came to my mind, something that I honestly think wouldn't be too difficult to happen. A comic book Ben 10 reboot. Not children comics based on the show, but a serious reboot.

      Cartoon Network is owned by Warner, who also owns DC Comics. And DC Comics is already doing some rebooted comic book versions of cartoons aired by Cartoon Network, like Scooby-Doo and Flintstones (you can check it out)

      Maybe we can get DC writers to make a badass comic book version of Ben 10. And make no mistake, comics nowadays are way more serious, darker and edgier than cartoons, and there would be room to explore a lot more of things.

      1. Anyone can Die

      Comics have no problem showing deaths of characters, while cartoons avoid this.
      http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/width_1280/public/9-3Deaths9.jpeg?itok=YgV7Qt2j
      (Blue Beetle killed by Maxwell Lord)

      1. Serious storylines

      There are almost no silly storylines. Even in Scooby Doo newest version, Scooby Doo being a talking dog is explained by saying he was an experiment from the government to enhance animals. He was a failed experiment, because he was not good at fighting, but was saved by Shaggy from being put down.
      http://www.readcomics.tv/scooby-apocalypse/chapter-1/35
      http://www.readcomics.tv/scooby-apocalypse/chapter-1/36

      1. Bwen

      Although it's easy to see a lot of same-sex couples in comic books, cousin couples face a greater prejudice and are still very hard to find. BUT I think DC wouldn't be too afraid to make it happen. For example in Blackest Night, when Superboy (genetic clone of Superman) was possessed by the black ring, it was revealed that deep down he is actually attracted to Supergirl (Superman's cousin)
      http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/36774/1125324-09_2.jpg
      Nothing ever came out of it, but the Superboy/Supergirl pairing is not popular. However the Bwen pairing is hugely popular among the fandom, and with pressure from the fans, I think DC could even make it happen for real.

      What do you guys think of the possibility of a Ben 10 comic book reboot?

      posted in General Discussion
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    • Watch Boy & Lucky Girl

      Hi, guys! I don't know how many of you visit Fanfiction net regularly, so maybe a few of you already know about this story, but I would like to share it here too, if it's ok.

      Watch Boy & Lucky Girl

      Summary: 16-year-old Ben Tennyson finds a strange watch that can turn him into aliens. And Gwen has to make sure her doofus cousin doesn't get himself killed with it.

      Interesting things about the story:

      • There is an Alien Registration Act, some prejudice against aliens and terrorist aliens too. I tried to make a realistic take on a world where aliens are a thing.
      • Gwen gets her magical powers pretty early in the story, and Verdona is not Ben and Gwen's paternal grandmother, she is Gwen's maternal grandmother, unrelated to Ben (explaining why Ben doesn't have magical powers like Gwen).
      • I try to adapt episodes from the show every once in a while, I already adapted And Then There Were Ten (the Prologue), A Change of Face and Goodbye and Good Riddance. But it's a different take on the episodes, not a straight-forward adaptation.
      • Ben and Gwen's relationship development takes center stage in the story. But even if you don't mind Bwen, I think there are enough elements to keep you hooked on the story anyway (But if you HATE Bwen, it's better not to read)

      Problems about the story

      • A few grammar errors. I'm brazilian, my english is not perfect, and I couldn't find a beta reader.
      • I'm not very descriptive.
      • Sometimes things feel a little rushed. While I don't think the romance parts are shoved down the readers' throats (cough Alien Force cough), I also know I could've handled some things better.

      If you want to take a look, and give your opinion, suggestions or critic, I will greatly appreciate.

      • The link is:
        https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12268392/1/Watch-Boy-Lucky-Girl

      (If you want a link to the portuguese version, just ask me and I will put it here too)

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    • RE: Am I the only one that wants to see Ben 10 get better?

      I also don't hate the reboot.

      Of course, I wanted it to be more serious and in a different company, but honestly, there are a few good things about the reboot:

      • For the first time ever since the Original Series, we have Ben and Gwen interacting with each other properly again (In Alien Force Ben just played third wheel to Kevin and Gwen, and in Omniverse Gwen was put on a bus)
      • Future episodes show that they will adapt plots from the sequel shows. "Villain Time" is "Hero Time", and "Bright Lights, Black Hearts" is All That Glitters. So I think the show might be tapping into some potential.
      • I like the alien roster overall (Yeah, they messed up real bad with their version of Stinkfly and I didn't like changing Wildvines to be more human-like, but the others are cool)

      There are a lot of bad things too, but I don't hate it.

      posted in Ben 10 Reboot
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    • RE: Why Gwevin failed (or Why Bwen is still so popular)

      @xlr8isbest I apologize if I misunderstood what you meant in your message then.

      What I said about Gwevin, I wasn't actually implying you ship it or not. I was just meant that - rightfully so - nobody assumes any Gwevin shipper supports or promotes abusive relationships - even though in real life a relationship like that would undoubtely be seen as abusive considering the things Kevin did to Gwen - but at the same time everybody thinks that just because somebody supports Bwen, it means they are supporting or promoting incest. That is not true, especially considering that (1) We are talking about fiction here, not real life, and (2) Incest is a very broad definition, and is also used to refer to many kinds of relationships that I'm personally against.

      Well, considering the country (a semi-fictional version of the USA) that Ben 10 takes place in, you can see that the Tennyson family is supposed to be weird there. Max Tennyson dated a lizard-like alien (Xylene) and Joel Tennyson married a sludge-like alien (Camille). I can't believe the people in Ben 10's universe wouldn't feel icky with these kinds of relationships either. So, definitely Bwen fits very well with the Tennysons' 'weird' relationship pattern in my opinion.

      @Tactical-Ochoa gave you the solution then. You just have to stop watching any topics that you're not comfortable with. No need to leave the forum.

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    • RE: Who wants Ben 10 to be put on Netflix and/or Adultswim?

      I would enjoy a more darker and edgier reboot as well, especially one that does not have to play things safe for the kids, with some of Ben's allies and villains dying, dealing with the psychological problems of a hero's life, not brushing away the subtext between Ben and Gwen, not changing Kevin from a psycho to a good guy for the sake of romance, ...

      @Nikita--Kleutin the only way to explain the inconsistencies is to say that each series is set in a separate universe, because from one series to another (OS to AF/UA, and AF/UA to OV) there are plotholes that a whole alien ship armada could fly through LOL

      posted in General Discussion
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    • RE: Ben 10 Comic Book Reboot

      @Rexfan1333 You mentioned the MCU, and I actually had an idea to write a fanfic about Ben 10 in the MCU. The Omnitrix would have one of the infinity stones (just like Loki's Scepter had one) and Gwen would be an Inhuman (if you watch Agents of SHIELD, which is also set in the MCU, you will understand what I'm talking about). I thought about starting from Age of Ultron, replacing Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with Ben and Gwen. But ultimately I decided to write Watch Boy & Lucky Girl because mixing MCU characters would require more skill and talent than I have at the moment.

      But as I said, I'm talking about real possibilities, and unfortunately, I don't think Ben 10 with Marvel is a realistic possibility.

      And of course, in my comic book reboot idea Ben and Gwen wouldn't be kids, they would be at least teenagers.

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    • RE: Ben 10 and Spider-Man main character comparisons analysis

      I would add that Gwen also share similarities with another Peter Parker love interest: Felicia Hardy, a.k.a. the Black Cat. Both are "cat-themed", (Gwen wears a shirt with a cat logo in Original Series) and the first time Lucky Girl appears she has luck-based powers, just like Black Cat, and their costumes are very similar (black, cat mask).

      So, Gwen Tennyson is like a mix of Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson and Felicia Hardy.

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    • RE: Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions

      @Omni-Triforcer said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions:

      MOA confirmed that kevin was always supposed to be redeemed.

      Actually, MoA said Kevin and Charmcaster were always supposed to be “anti-hero foils to Ben and Gwen”, that's very different from redemption. Take X-Men comics as an example, Magneto is an anti-hero foil to Charles Xavier. Magneto can even do good sometimes and join forces with the X-Men, but he always retains his shady personality and never becomes a "good guy". Based on all the evidence from OS, I'm sure MoA wouldn't do anything remotely alike to what AF did, making Kevin into Ben's BFF and Gwen's boyfriend, and retconing almost everything from his past (Max and Kevin's dad were partners and friends? Max didn't even know Kevin in OS.)

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    • RE: Which girl is the perfect girl for Ben?

      I prefer Gwen.

      In my opinion, Julie suffered a lot from being a satellite love interest, as I said in the Bwen-Gwevin topic, the writers apparently were only worried about Gwevin, and Julie was just there so they could show every once in a while that Ben had a girlfriend too. Maybe if they had paid more attention to her, I could see something more between her and Ben.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      @tactical-ochoa said in Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2:

      @csgt Yes, the sequel shows certainly downplayed Kevin's powers, which is something that I wasn't fond of and found to not make much or any sense. Actually, no, Kevin's powers didn't really change in the sequel shows. Absorbing matter wasn't a change. It was an addition. (...) Kevin's powers weren't really downplayed. Stuff was just added to them in a way that didn't make much sense to me. Kevin's powers had always been focused on absorbing some form of energy and mutating from absorbing too much energy.

      I'm really sorry, I didn't understand what you meant here because first you agreed with me that the sequels downplayed Kevin's powers, but then you disagreed.

      What I was trying to say: Yes, in the sequels Kevin still technically could absorb energy, sure, he didn't lose his powers, but at the same time, he stopped using them (with very few exceptions, like the Ultimate Kevin arc). But what I'm saying is, don't look at what Kevin could do (absorb energy/matter), look at what he actually does with this power.

      In the OS, Kevin:

      • Turned into aliens (in "Framed", he turned into the exact same alien forms as Ben, and in "Kevin 11" when he mutated into a hybrid Heatblast and a hybrid Four Arms)
      • Turned into amalgam alien forms ( in the end of "Framed" he turned into his classic almagam form fusing Ben's ten first aliens, stayed like that during "Grudge Match" and "Back With A Vengeance", and later in "Ken 10" he turned into another amalgam form, Kevin 11K)

      Most of the time in the OS (except for the very beginning of "Kevin 11" where he used a bit of electricity) what we actually see is Kevin going alien.

      While in the sequels most of the time what we see is him creating a shell of metal, rubber and other kinds of stuff around himself. We rarely see Kevin going alien like he used to in the OS (with a few exceptions, of course). That's why I said the alien side was downplayed and his powerset was changed.

      Why the sequels did that? Because going alien was already Ben's thing, if they had kept Kevin using his powers like he did in the OS, it would be redudant and/or make Ben useless. So they used Kevin's powers in a completely different way.

      That's what I refered to as a powerset change.

      It nerfs Kevin into being somewhere around Ben's level (although, that is dependent on what aliens Kevin can use and whether or not he could splice them together into some amalgamation). Kevin having an Omnitrix limits his level of power to what he has access to; especially compared to Kevin's energy absorption ability, which allows Kevin to become more and more powerful the more energy he absorbs. It could kill at least most of the tension that comes from Ben and Kevin fighting each other because, again, Kevin having his own Omnitrix puts him around the same level that Ben is at, thus making Kevin less of a threat compared to him being able to absorb energy

      Well, again, if with his Omnitrix Kevin can use aliens and if he can splice them together into amalgamations, then he is doing the same stuff he always did in the OS.

      I agree with you, technically, Kevin's energy absorption ability allows Kevin to become more and more powerful the more energy he absorbs, but when in the OS did he actually presented a bigger threat to Ben by using his energy absorption powers to do something different than turn into an alien or an amalgamation of aliens? I honestly can't remember.

      (although again, that is if Kevin's Omnitrix works the same way as Ben's Omnitrix, which I'm guessing is going to be the case in the reboot show).

      My guess, initially, it will be the same as OS Kevin. Just like in Kevin 11 and Framed, Kevin initially only used single alien forms. From the end of Framed onwards, he used amalgam forms, so I guess later in the Reboot, his Omnitrix will allow him to use almagam forms too. Just a guess though.

      And your example with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch is terrible.

      Alright, I will try a better example then. It's a bit obscure, so you might not be familiar with this. Spider-Gwen in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon. In the comics, she had full powers, in the cartoon she had a high tech suit to simulate Spider-Man's powers. http://thedailybugle.wikia.com/wiki/Spider-Gwen
      Or a more mainstream example, Spider-Man himself in the first trilogy had organic web instead of web-shooters.
      Of course, there is always a polemic with these changes, but I just want to show that things like this have been done before.

      . Given what Rouleau said, I wouldn't even be surprised if Man of Action make Kevin a good guy again...if he even is going to be evil in the reboot show.

      I guess he is, because of what I said earlier. Giving him an Omnitrixi and making him an ally would be kind of redudant in my opinion. If they wanted a second heroic Omnitrix user, they could have gone with Gwen, making her like Gwen 10, at least that way it would have the gender diversity. So I'm guessing he will be evil. Again, just a guess.

      Also, Kevin doesn't need his own Omnitrix to further mirror Ben. They did that with Albedo and it didn't work as well as Kevin did in the Original Series. Albedo was just an evil Galvan with Ben's appearance and a replica of the original Omnitrix. That's not a proper, evil counterpart to Ben. Albedo was an entirely different character compared to Ben. OS Kevin was the true, ideal dark mirror image of Ben and OS Kevin never had his own Omnitrix during that time. Kevin paralleled Ben in some ways but also differed from Ben as well. Kevin was a reminder to Ben of what Ben could've become if it weren't for his first meeting with Kevin.

      I completely agree with you there.

      Kevin to Ben was like The Joker to Batman. Ben's view of Kevin was like Luke Skywalker's vision of Darth Vader on Dagobah in Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back. Do you see The Joker don some sort of uniform or battle suit that looks similar to Batman's outfit? No. Do you see Luke Skywalker wear a full armored suit like Vader does? No. Objects don't always present two characters being proper opposites to each other and I don't find that to be subtle either. It comes down to the characters themselves and their personalities and traits, which I find has a better chance of being more subtle. When symbolism and whatnot is shoved into the viewers' faces, usually it could end up being seen as intrusive and insulting of the viewers' intelligence. I find it better to be more subtle and put confidence in the viewers to be able to figure stuff out. Kevin doesn't need his own Omnitrix in order to be a better representation of being a dark mirror image of Ben and the Original Series is proof of that.

      Alright, but you also have example of non-subtle opposite characters, and they work too.
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      Going back to Kevin's powers being removed and replaced by him having his own Omnitrix, taking away Kevin's powers does a lot more to Kevin than just change his power set. It changes Kevin as a character. In the context of the Original Series, Kevin was kicked out by his family because of his powers. Kevin was bullied and treated like a freak by others because of his powers. Kevin's mental instability and insanity as well as his psychopathic behavior was there because of his powers. Kevin's ability to absorb energy was a huge and long term fundamental aspect about him that made and defined Kevin for who he is. Take away those powers and Kevin isn't Kevin anymore. Take away those powers and you take away Kevin as a character.

      I actually agree with you on that. Changing the powers do make Kevin a less complex character. But, despite that, MOA can still find other reasons for Kevin to be bullied or rejected by his family, if they actually want to work on his backstory. I believe that they can still keep his old personality (even if they don't fully develop his backstory). Considering that the sequel already changed Kevin's personality to make him a hero, if MOA at least keep the same personality Kevin had in the OS, I'm already satisfied.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      @Tactical-Ochoa (I had replied to you on reddit, but decided to reply here instead)

      If we look at Kevin in the OS, the only case I remember of him actually absorbing non-alien energy is when he absorbed electricity in his very first appearance, and it was only in the beginning of the episode. Later, all he did was absorb alien energy and use alien forms. He emulated Ben's alien forms in "Framed", then he became an amalgam of Ben's aliens by the end of the episode, and, in the future, he became Kevin 11.000 (an even more dangerous amalgam of aliens).

      To differentiate Kevin's power-set from Ben's, the sequels (AF/UA/OV) heavily downplayed the alien side, and focused on the absorbing side - they made him absorb matter, which wasn't even part of his original power-set. Then the sequels introduced Albedo to fill Kevin's original role.

      Kevin having an Omnitrix doesn't change much of Kevin's OS power-set. With an Omnitrix, Kevin can emulate Ben's aliens like he did in Framed, and he can become an amalgam creature (that happened to Ben in Innervasion, it can easily happen to Kevin too).

      It's like what the MCU did with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. They are mutants in the comics, but since they couldn't use mutants in the film, they made them be genetic experiments. It changed the origin of their powers, but it didn't change their powerset itself.

      Why MOA is doing that? I might be very wrong, but my guess is that they want to distance their Kevin from UAF/OV Kevin, because what the sequels did to him was never their plan, and present him as a "dark mirror" of Ben like they always wanted - and giving him an Omnitrix is a way to visually establish that to the viewers (like the sequels did with Albedo).

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      @tactical-ochoa said in Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2:

      "the Omnitrix is now a gateway through to where an evil alien empire will invade Earth"
      Wow. What a way to make the Omnitrix seem less like, well, the Omnitrix.

      I'm pretty sure that this isn't a permanent change, just a one-time-only thing too. "The Omnitrix is now a gateway" I mean, you could say about Secret of the Omnitrix, "The Omnitrix is now a time bomb that can destroy the entire universe"

      My bet is that by the end of the season finale the Omnitrix will be fully back to normal, and maybe without the Omni-Enhanced aliens (if I'm correct, I won't miss them)

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    • RE: Ben 10 2016 Reboot Episode Review: The Charm Offensive

      You certainly raised good points, @Tactical-Ochoa , but I have a few things to point out:

      "Even her UAF design looks better and more unique than this new reboot design"
      Well, I don't think UAF Charmcaster design is unique at all. It was completely different from OS Charmcaster's design and was turned into a carbon copy of Marvel's Enchantress.
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      But I don't like Reboot Charmcaster's design either. My favorite design for Charmcaster is Original Series, then my second favorite is Omniverse (because it looks more like the OS). I don't really like any of the others.
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      I completely agree that removing Hex from Charmcaster's backstory in the reboot was not a good idea, and removed a lot of depth from the character. I really hope they establish some connection between Hex and Charmcaster later in the Reboot.

      "Is there at least anything that Charmcaster has that resembles, well, Charmcaster?" Fair point, but UAF Charmcaster was also completely different from Original Charmcaster. She was Hope, she was born in Ledgerdomain, her motivation was to ressurect her dead father Spellbinder, none of these aspects fit the character presented in the Original Series at all. I still think that Reboot Charmcaster, as a human teen delinquent girl that has magic powers, is closer to the OS version, and I think there is room for more character development in the future.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      @Tactical-Ochoa Yes, this episode was definitely MOA's own take on Couples Retreat.

      There were many similarities, but I will talk about a few diffences that in my opinion actually made The Charm Offensive more enjoyable than Couples Retreat.

      At least here it makes sense for Charmcaster to be manipulated by Morningstar, because it was her very first appearance and she was younger and still naive, unlike in UA where Charmcaster supposedly had years of experience and being played by Morningstar was a big character regression and made her look pathetic.

      Now, let's analyse the developments we get from this episode. By the end of the episode Ben corrects Grandpa Max when he implies that Gwen is a helper/sidekick and Ben says that Gwen is a full-fledged hero. While in Couples Retreat, Kevin messed up, didn't trust Gwen to keep a spellbook safe, moved it from her house to his garage, which actually made it easier for Morningstar to steal it and then in the end of the episode... Gwen forgives him and concludes he's a good boyfriend just because he's not as bad as Morningstar. Gwevin crappiness at its prime. So when it comes to character development, I much prefer the character developments between Ben and Gwen in "The Charm Offensive" over the character "developments" (if we can call it developments) between Kevin and Gwen in "Couples Retreat".

      About Charmcaster looking weak, well, in the end, even after she had been drained, she managed to overpower Morningstar, trapped him in her book and Ben and Gwen looked terrified of her, so I think she actually looked quite strong.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      I found Charmcaster's debut episode in english on Youtube, if anyone is interested.
      Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIORt1cvhM4
      Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8__C045ma1s

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    • RE: Will kai become bens love interest?

      @mortie-10 I do think that Eunice is a better choice than Julie too.
      Julie might have Ship/battle armor, but still she almost never used that. In fact, she always prefered to play tennis and live a normal life instead of fighting alongside Ben against his enemies. Considering how important being a hero is to Ben, a girlfriend who doesn't fully support him with that is incompatible to him, and that put a strain in their relationship. That's why I mentioned Gwen, Charmcaster and Looma: Gwen (my first choice) was Ben's partner ever since day one, she always stood by his side and helped him to fight enemies, even before she had magic. Charmcaster, if developed in a proper way, could also be Ben's partner too. Looma, as a warrior princess, also could help Ben in battle. Eunice, as you mentioned, also showed potential to be an heroic partner to Ben. While Julie is usually not by Ben's side when he is doing his hero stuff, on the contrary, Ben doesn't spend much time with her because being a hero gets in the way of their relationship.

      About Julie being cute, well, when Ben met Kai and Eunice you could see him almost drooling, that wasn't the reaction he had when he met Julie. Besides, for example, you could see a lot of guys "noticing" Gwen's looks (Cooper, Kevin, Morningstar, the Forever Knight's squire, even Kid Ben with the infamous 'big butt' comment...) while in UAF we never see anyone else showing interest in Julie. I think Julie wasn't supposed to be much attractive. Of course, it's ok if we have different opinions about that, but I'm trying to present evidence from the show that seem to imply that, in fact, the characters in-universe don't see Julie as that much attractive.

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    • RE: Will kai become bens love interest?

      Please, not Julie. Julie is the very definition of 'satellite love interest', a generic female character with a bland personality and no interesting traits who appeared every once in a while just to remind the audience that Ben had a girlfriend.

      Kai is a slightly better option, but I still think there are better choices, like Gwen, Charmcaster, Looma... But I actually hope the Reboot stays away from romance. The dynamic between Ben and Gwen is great, and shoehorning love interests between them would probably be a mistake.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      It seems like it's Vilgax's ship. Since Ben looks like Upgrade, Grandpa Max looks like Cannonbolt and Gwen seems to be Stinkfly, I'd say that maybe Vilgax is messing with their DNAs and the hybrid creature is Vilgax himself (the form is probably just a small nod to Kevin, just like Amalgam Ben). If It were Kevin, I think we'd see the hair or something resembling him, but that's just a guess.

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    • RE: Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

      I've found a small clip of the episode here (but the dub is german)
      http://themattress.tumblr.com/post/173001051073

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