Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2
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Does anyone watched the episode and know what exactly Animo did to turn himself into Rath? Did he got Rath from Ben's Omnitrix, or did he just use some kind of tiger serum on himself? He does mention he was experimenting on animals (the audio wasn't very good, and I'm brazilian, not an english native speaker).
I will be very surprised if Ben turns into Rath. I was thinking MOA would introduce as new aliens first the aliens MOA themselves created (like Wildmutt, Ripjaws, Ditto, Upchuck, Benwolf, Articguana...) rather than use UAF/OV ones like Rath. The only non-OS alien they used so far was Water Hazard, and they changed him a lot to turn him into Overflow.
Anyway, I can't wait for this episode to accidentaly get 'lost' in full quality somewhere in the internet
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I found another video of this episode. Right before Animo turns into Rath, he briefly mutates into other Omnitrix aliens too (including Gax - which was supposed to have been removed from the Omnitrix). So I think the chances of Ben turning into Rath in the future are pretty high now.
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Get ready to have your minds blown.........

APPOPLEXIAN!!! WE COULD BE SEEING RATH!!!
Also Enhanced Stinkfly

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https://youtu.be/Sc3QOP8VCGo
Season 2 ep 5 -
The reboot is definetely improving, i can say that.
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Well, that episode was bland and boring. They used Keith David for this? What a waste.
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Well, that episode was bland and boring. They used Keith David for this? What a waste.
@tactical-ochoa agreed. That episode was a bump on the reboot's momentum of being ok.
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@ultimate-omnitri said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 5: Season 2:
It is becoming clear to me that the reboot isn't trying to be like the old show but it trying to be something in its own right and i admire it for that. Animo Becoming The Anti-Ben Proves that this show isnt following what past shows have done and i think thats a great idea.
Yeah, sure, even though the Ben 10 reboot copied so much from the original show (along with some elements from the sequel shows) and even still using the same exact premise as the original show. Even though some of the season 2 episodes are still using some elements from the previous shows (Dr. Animo and Vilgax teaming up with each other and Zombozo trying to hypnotize people, for example). Sure, it's definitely trying to do its own thing. It's definitely not following what the previous shows have done already. Sure, the potential of Rath returning is certainly not another example that the reboot is still copying from the previous shows.
@tactical-ochoa do u have to ruin this with negativity cmon just be a little happy we might see rath
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@tactical-ochoa do u have to ruin this with negativity cmon just be a little happy we might see rath
@fan-of-10-000 agreed
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@tactical-ochoa do u have to ruin this with negativity cmon just be a little happy we might see rath
@fan-of-10-000 said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 5: Season 2:
@tactical-ochoa do u have to ruin this with negativity cmon just be a little happy we might see rath
Im just happy they are acknowledging Af/ua
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@andrew42 Many of us, including me, have already saw this article. It was linked on here before.
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https://youtu.be/wFFGfzmECRQ
Season 2 ep 6https://youtu.be/kJaSiEQ_PtA
Season 2 ep 7 -
Like the new episodes 6 and 7 of Ben 10 Reboot season 2. What happen to episodes 2 & 3 of Ben 10 Reboot season 2 when you'll ever aired it?
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Episodes 2 and 3 were online awhile ago, well Episode 2 was, Episode 3 was just a nightmare because of Ben10KClub commentating over it, I had to mute or skip scenes just to see it. But the episode was average itself alone, I'm gonna wait til its HD online and properly watch it before giving my final thoughts. Same with 5-7 because of lack of volume
Out To Launch, Can I Keep It?, Bon Voyage were probably the best of em all tbh.
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Just watched Out to Launch on my TV in Norway. Awesome episode.
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I asked man of actions questions and they told me that ben 10 main audience is kids, that could explain why many things comes off as more childish. As for episodic nature thats because of the recent trend of cartoon network a lot of the shows are goofy and comedic they just follow that trend. Im okay with reboot i just see as it what it is and man of action isn't planning to change that format. Also i really love the new evolution design its cool. My favorite is heatblast and overflows new evolution design.
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I asked man of actions questions and they told me that ben 10 main audience is kids, that could explain why many things comes off as more childish. As for episodic nature thats because of the recent trend of cartoon network a lot of the shows are goofy and comedic they just follow that trend. Im okay with reboot i just see as it what it is and man of action isn't planning to change that format. Also i really love the new evolution design its cool. My favorite is heatblast and overflows new evolution design.
@bwen329 Granted, it's fine if they want to follow a trend because you can still make that work well. However, following a trend isn't often the best option to go with either. Some trends don't fit with certain franchises such as Cartoon Network's trend with goofy comedies and the Ben 10 franchise's action-oriented approach. There's also factoring in the audience as well. People are going to get bored quickly over the same trend. After all, why would you want to invest your time and interest in the same thing over and over. What originally starts off as original and interesting can suddenly become bland, generic, and boring if done too many times. More and more fans and viewers are getting sick and tired of Cartoon Network's goofy comedies trend because we're seeing the same thing being done over and over and over for the past few years. It's even worse when trends lead to shows losing their very original identity such as the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot. It's reasons like this that shows why most trends don't last long and die off pretty quickly.
I disagree with Man of Action's approach with the Ben 10 reboot. They should've gone against that trend. They should've strayed away from the goofy comedy approach. Something that is more original and, well, more like Ben 10. I find that going against a trend is often a better direction to take as it gives fans and viewers something that is more interesting and refreshing to see and there are plenty of cases of this happening. The gaming industry had this trend that feels like is now dying off where more and more shooter games were going more towards the approach of a serious, gritty, modern military shooter as a result of the success of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. More and more gamers were growing sick and tired of it because they were experiencing the same thing over and over with these games. Then comes games like Titanfall 2, Doom 2016, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Overwatch, etc and those games became really popular because they didn't follow that very trend and instead introduced an approach that most gamers found interesting, refreshing, and enjoyable. I say that this was the perfect time and opportunity for Man of Action and CN Studios to go against CN's goofy comedy trend and provide a Ben 10 show that is different from shows such as Gumball, We Bare Bears, the Powerpuff Girls reboot, etc and thus more interesting and refreshing but no, they screwed it up and instead made a show that is overall bland and boring and just does the same thing that other recent CN shows already did before.
When I go into a career in Game Design in the future, that's a mindset that I want to stick with. To not focus on just following trends (especially if they don't fit the type of games that I want to make) but instead just focus more on taking various approaches that fit the games that I want to make.
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@bwen329 Granted, it's fine if they want to follow a trend because you can still make that work well. However, following a trend isn't often the best option to go with either. Some trends don't fit with certain franchises such as Cartoon Network's trend with goofy comedies and the Ben 10 franchise's action-oriented approach. There's also factoring in the audience as well. People are going to get bored quickly over the same trend. After all, why would you want to invest your time and interest in the same thing over and over. What originally starts off as original and interesting can suddenly become bland, generic, and boring if done too many times. More and more fans and viewers are getting sick and tired of Cartoon Network's goofy comedies trend because we're seeing the same thing being done over and over and over for the past few years. It's even worse when trends lead to shows losing their very original identity such as the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Ben 10 reboot. It's reasons like this that shows why most trends don't last long and die off pretty quickly.
I disagree with Man of Action's approach with the Ben 10 reboot. They should've gone against that trend. They should've strayed away from the goofy comedy approach. Something that is more original and, well, more like Ben 10. I find that going against a trend is often a better direction to take as it gives fans and viewers something that is more interesting and refreshing to see and there are plenty of cases of this happening. The gaming industry had this trend that feels like is now dying off where more and more shooter games were going more towards the approach of a serious, gritty, modern military shooter as a result of the success of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. More and more gamers were growing sick and tired of it because they were experiencing the same thing over and over with these games. Then comes games like Titanfall 2, Doom 2016, Wolfenstein: The New Order, Overwatch, etc and those games became really popular because they didn't follow that very trend and instead introduced an approach that most gamers found interesting, refreshing, and enjoyable. I say that this was the perfect time and opportunity for Man of Action and CN Studios to go against CN's goofy comedy trend and provide a Ben 10 show that is different from shows such as Gumball, We Bare Bears, the Powerpuff Girls reboot, etc and thus more interesting and refreshing but no, they screwed it up and instead made a show that is overall bland and boring and just does the same thing that other recent CN shows already did before.
When I go into a career in Game Design in the future, that's a mindset that I want to stick with. To not focus on just following trends (especially if they don't fit the type of games that I want to make) but instead just focus more on taking various approaches that fit the games that I want to make.
@tactical-ochoa There is still a problem with that 11 minute format there is only so much material you can put in it.
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@tactical-ochoa There is still a problem with that 11 minute format there is only so much material you can put in it.
@ultraalien True. There are also many other issues with the Ben 10 reboot, and the franchise overall, that needs to be fixed, improved, and resolved as well.
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