Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 4: Show/Episode Discussions cont.

Ultimate OmniTri

@tactical-ochoa Forget it im not gonna argue with you anymore and im done responding to your negativity. I'm done with this site.

Ebomnitrix

I'm agreeing with Omni Triforcer when I say, the Reboot needs lore and an expanded universe so people who are coming into the series can learn about it, however showing us planets we know already prior is dull and boring, so if next week, we don't get Upgrade and Grey Matter than we're going to get something completely new which excites me.

Look we all have our opinions, some of us don't like this Alien Worlds idea, some of us do. And I like it because it helps the Reboot a lot make it more interesting. And look we have to explore alternate universes and alternate worlds, that's the point of Ben 10, to discover what's out there in the universe and what's inside the Omnitrix, that's all.

And Tactical Ochoa, I don't mean to be that guy, but you say that about every Ben 10 series aside the original, you quote that you prefer the original show over any series which is fine, but you make it sound like you completely diss on any show that's after that, and that's not fair to the other Ben 10 shows. The original wasn't even that great imo. But you shouldn't diss UAF, OV and the Reboot just because its not the "original show." You may not like it but its not fair.

Also Ben 10 shows need to explore lores and other stuff that's in space, otherwise that just makes it boring about a kid who transforms, and solves his daily problems while fighting bad guy of the day. We need a big direction so that this series can take off, be its own thing, and lead to success. The more you put down on it, the more you're ruining hopes and dreams for any potential futures for Ben 10. We all may want a serious show, but right now we're having a series that's rebooted, more light hearted, and needs a territory for us to explore so when we get there and the big bomb happens, that's when it all starts to become worth wild.

Look my point is, the Ben 10 Reboot needs this, you may not like the writing and story telling but Man of Action went into this direction because they felt like a shorter episode timespan was the right move. And I've seen the Reboot, I've enjoyed it, especially its later episodes, and when we got Omni-Tricked we now know that they can do a whole big and new different direction. It makes the Ben 10 Reboot better than other CN Reboots imo. Other than We Bare Bears, Gumball, OK KO, and Steven Universe, this show is just as good as them, and its because we're going somewhere with that.

Tactical Ochoa

@ebomnitrix I don't diss on UAF, OV, and the reboot because they're not the original show. Of course they're not. UAF and OV are sequel shows and the reboot show is, of course, a reboot. I criticize these shows for the very issues that they have while also providing suggestions on how to improve the Ben 10 franchise in the future. How is doing that ruining the hopes and dreams for any potential futures for Ben 10? How is that not fair to do? Yes, I do compare these shows to the original but that doesn't mean I don't like these shows because they're not the original show. Hell, how can I not compare the reboot to the original show if the reboot is copying so much from the original show, thus constantly reminding me and other fans and viewers of the original show as well as the sequel shows (more so of the original, though). If UAF, OV, and the reboot didn't have the very issues that I criticize them for, then I would definitely have a more positive outlook on them.

It's also completely fine to explore the lore of Ben 10. My problem is that CN and CN Studios is focusing too much on that and not enough on providing strong writing, storytelling, and characters. A big direction to allow the series to take off, be its own thing, and lead to success? You're saying that to a show that, again, is copying so much from the previous shows and was made just to sell more merchandise. Ben 10 doesn't have much of a future left, if not none at all, if Cartoon Network continues to mistreat it. The Ben 10 reboot isn't going to have a future pass the second season if the second season doesn't improve upon the first season, remedying the many issues that the first season has, doesn't deliver on its overall quality, and if Cartoon Network keeps pushing to sell more merchandise over focusing on the show's quality. For the many times that I've said this before (yet it keeps going in one ear and out the other for you guys), I'm constructively criticizing the Ben 10 sequel shows and the Ben 10 reboot because I care about the Ben 10 franchise and I want for it to have a great future. I want to see the Ben 10 franchise succeed and fulfill the many great opportunities and the great potential that it has. For christ sake, I have the design of my Ben 10 game on Deviant-art with the intention of wanting to turn that design into a full-fledged and fully developed video game once I find employment in a video game company (most preferably PlatinumGames). Does any of this resemble someone that's trying to constantly put down the Ben 10 franchise and constantly being unfair with it? Get this stuck in your heads because I'm freaking tired of constantly repeating it.

I'M DOING WHAT I'M DOING HERE BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT THE BEN 10 FRANCHISE AND ITS FUTURE.

JrPhilgene

The whole if you don't like it don't watch it argument is justifiable most people who use it just don't use it correctly for example someone could see a poster of the ben10 and say that they don't like the character designs and then someone else who enjoys the reboot would use the if you don't like it don't watch it argument in this case the argument isn't used correctly since the person only stated that they did not like the character designs of the show and not the show in general however there are still many instances where the" if you don't like it don't watch it "argument is accepted I have seen many people who openly express their hatred for a show and still continue to watch new episodes every week it airs and after watching these episodes they complain about how they didn't like a single thing about the episode and continue to insult the show in general.This ia one of those moments where it is accepted.

NEVERAGAIN

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FangDaNerd

Wow this got out of hand fast.

Ebomnitrix

Ben 10 Alien Worlds, Khoros:
(Also remember this is Azmuth narrating, so we can our first look at what he sounds like.)
http://ht.cdn.turner.com/tbseurope/big/CN3.0/20170803/1745/1_iccgph3v_1_9eajb5ua_1.mp4

Ultimate OmniTri

First look at the planets for the rest of the 10 aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euT8AcDwp9k

Ultimate OmniTri

@omni-triforcer said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 4: Show/Episode Discussions cont.:

First look at the planets for the rest of the 10 aliens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euT8AcDwp9k

Man im loving all this lore! Thats one of my favorite things about ben 10. All the alien lore.

FangDaNerd

Nice! and was that confirmed to be azmuth?

NelsonYeung2

Diamond Bolt has criticised the Ben 10 Reboot & he is a Ben 10 fan himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BFKW1c5svM

FangDaNerd

@nelsonyeung2 Pretty sure majority of Ben 10 fans dislike the Reboot so I don't think that is saying much.

Ebomnitrix

We've already established why people don't like the Reboot.
Its either not the original series, or its not UAF, and people want a more serious Ben 10 when in today's age that's highly impossible to do, on Cartoon Network anyway...
It should just be moved to Disney since they would know how to handle B10 better.