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Who is your favorite Ben 10 Villain, other than Vilgax?

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  • exactly they couldve said that grandpa max said he could bring a friend but in that case it would most likely be a guy and not a girl for obvious reasons so relative was the next best thing.

  • exactly they couldve said that grandpa max said he could bring a friend but in that case it would most likely be a guy and not a girl for obvious reasons so relative was the next best thing.

    @Omni-Triforcer Plus there's the concern as to why would Gwen even be best friends with Ben if they both hate each other so much.

  • @Omni-Triforcer Plus there's the concern as to why would Gwen even be best friends with Ben if they both hate each other so much.

    @Tactical-Ochoa very much true although that couldve been added when she was turned into a cousin plus if they liked each other and were friends it would be kind of weird to go on a road trip together (i know my parents would never let me sleep in the same room as a girl at age 10) it would really put the bwen theory into motion lol

  • @Tactical-Ochoa very much true although that couldve been added when she was turned into a cousin plus if they liked each other and were friends it would be kind of weird to go on a road trip together (i know my parents would never let me sleep in the same room as a girl at age 10) it would really put the bwen theory into motion lol

    @Omni-Triforcer I think regardless, if my Bwen theory is correct and true, Man of Action was going to put that theory into motion anyways regardless as to whether or not Ben and Gwen are even cousins. Heck, I mean like did CN really make the change for them to be cousins or did CN just point out the flaws of Ben and Gwen being best friends and suggested for Man of Action to be related and thus Man of Action are the ones that made Ben and Gwen into cousins. I heard this change was made when season 3 of the Original Series was being written. If that's true and if Ben and Gwen were best friends and they did get paired together, what do you think MOA would have to do. Make them cousins and have them paired together as a couple anyways and thus make little necessary changes in order to meet the premiere release deadline while also maintaining at least most of their original vision or do something like make Ben and Gwen brother and sister to each other or something of the likes and thus have to go back and pretty much almost rewrite at least most of the entire show to fit that one change it but risk likely not making the deadline.

  • Either way, reason of Bwen or not, again, Kevin should have never become a hero character. As stated before, @car54 made a great analogy that sums up Kevin's transition into being a hero. Much like the Joker and Emperor Palpatine, Kevin just doesn't work as a hero, an ally and best friend for Ben, and a boyfriend for Gwen. He didn't even do a good job of being a hero and a Plumbers officer. Kevin continued to commit various different and very serious crimes even when he was a hero. It's freakin stupid.

  • @car54 i guess they needed a way to explain why gwen was on the roadtrip so they chose her being a cousin.

    @Omni-Triforcer
    She was going to go as Ben's friend from school, although a friend with a contentious relationship. CN decided that having her on a summer road trip with her male friend and his grandpa had dirty overtones.....I think they had their own minds in the gutter.

    It works fine in the AU story I'm planing. In that, one or both of her parents were plumbers so they know Max and know they can trust him with their daughter.

  • @Omni-Triforcer
    She was going to go as Ben's friend from school, although a friend with a contentious relationship. CN decided that having her on a summer road trip with her male friend and his grandpa had dirty overtones.....I think they had their own minds in the gutter.

    It works fine in the AU story I'm planing. In that, one or both of her parents were plumbers so they know Max and know they can trust him with their daughter.

    @car54 Dirty overtones? I think you're overthinking this. Gwen was made into Ben's cousin because it makes more sense that way. I even stated why. Simple as that. It's even said so on the Ben 10 Wiki, Tv Tropes, etc.

  • @car54 Dirty overtones? I think you're overthinking this. Gwen was made into Ben's cousin because it makes more sense that way. I even stated why. Simple as that. It's even said so on the Ben 10 Wiki, Tv Tropes, etc.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    I don't remember where I read that they thought it was inappropriate to have her alone with them. They were worried about some kind of protest from these groups who watch cartoons looking for something to complain about.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    I don't remember where I read that they thought it was inappropriate to have her alone with them. They were worried about some kind of protest from these groups who watch cartoons looking for something to complain about.

    @car54 Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

  • @car54 Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    There are a lot of people these days who are looking for reasons to be offended. It's easy to believe that they would be worried about it. They were the ones over thinking it.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    There are a lot of people these days who are looking for reasons to be offended. It's easy to believe that they would be worried about it. They were the ones over thinking it.

    @car54 Probably not back then but recently, oh yeah, it;s getting really bad now. Curse you Anita Sarkeesian and your ridiculously outright ignorantly stupid bullshit.

  • @car54 Probably not back then but recently, oh yeah, it;s getting really bad now. Curse you Anita Sarkeesian and your ridiculously outright ignorantly stupid bullshit.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    Ben 10 premiered about the time people started to complain that Loony Tunes was to violent and racist (CN edited the Loony Tunes cartoons as a result) so those kinds were already around.at the time.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    Ben 10 premiered about the time people started to complain that Loony Tunes was to violent and racist (CN edited the Loony Tunes cartoons as a result) so those kinds were already around.at the time.

    @car54 Well, I did said probably. It's got a lot worse since then. That's for sure.

  • @car54 Well, I did said probably. It's got a lot worse since then. That's for sure.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    Oh, no doubt about that.

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    They just want to cash in the popularity of the character gotta sell those squid toys.
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    I would add that Gwen also share similarities with another Peter Parker love interest: Felicia Hardy, a.k.a. the Black Cat. Both are "cat-themed", (Gwen wears a shirt with a cat logo in Original Series) and the first time Lucky Girl appears she has luck-based powers, just like Black Cat, and their costumes are very similar (black, cat mask). So, Gwen Tennyson is like a mix of Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson and Felicia Hardy.
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    I forgot to state this as well. For anyone that reads this, if @chronosapien234 provides information about the Ben 10 reboot, mostly in regards to any new aliens and the designs of the characters and Ben's aliens, but doesn't provide proof that adds to the credibility of that information, don't accept the information from him as truth. Accept the possibility that he is lying. In fact, ask him to provide proof that credits the information that he provides. Again, I had been waiting for months for him to provide some images of the artwork for the reboot. I even asked him over and over in the past and got nothing but mostly unjustifiable excuses from him. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just stating what's been going on between me and him and what my best recommendation is with him. You don't have to listen to me but this is what I suggest for people on this website to do and that's my reason why.