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Who is your favorite Ben 10 Villain, other than Vilgax?

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  • exactly they couldve said that grandpa max said he could bring a friend but in that case it would most likely be a guy and not a girl for obvious reasons so relative was the next best thing.

    @Omni-Triforcer Plus there's the concern as to why would Gwen even be best friends with Ben if they both hate each other so much.

  • @Omni-Triforcer Plus there's the concern as to why would Gwen even be best friends with Ben if they both hate each other so much.

    @Tactical-Ochoa very much true although that couldve been added when she was turned into a cousin plus if they liked each other and were friends it would be kind of weird to go on a road trip together (i know my parents would never let me sleep in the same room as a girl at age 10) it would really put the bwen theory into motion lol

  • @Tactical-Ochoa very much true although that couldve been added when she was turned into a cousin plus if they liked each other and were friends it would be kind of weird to go on a road trip together (i know my parents would never let me sleep in the same room as a girl at age 10) it would really put the bwen theory into motion lol

    @Omni-Triforcer I think regardless, if my Bwen theory is correct and true, Man of Action was going to put that theory into motion anyways regardless as to whether or not Ben and Gwen are even cousins. Heck, I mean like did CN really make the change for them to be cousins or did CN just point out the flaws of Ben and Gwen being best friends and suggested for Man of Action to be related and thus Man of Action are the ones that made Ben and Gwen into cousins. I heard this change was made when season 3 of the Original Series was being written. If that's true and if Ben and Gwen were best friends and they did get paired together, what do you think MOA would have to do. Make them cousins and have them paired together as a couple anyways and thus make little necessary changes in order to meet the premiere release deadline while also maintaining at least most of their original vision or do something like make Ben and Gwen brother and sister to each other or something of the likes and thus have to go back and pretty much almost rewrite at least most of the entire show to fit that one change it but risk likely not making the deadline.

  • Either way, reason of Bwen or not, again, Kevin should have never become a hero character. As stated before, @car54 made a great analogy that sums up Kevin's transition into being a hero. Much like the Joker and Emperor Palpatine, Kevin just doesn't work as a hero, an ally and best friend for Ben, and a boyfriend for Gwen. He didn't even do a good job of being a hero and a Plumbers officer. Kevin continued to commit various different and very serious crimes even when he was a hero. It's freakin stupid.

  • @car54 i guess they needed a way to explain why gwen was on the roadtrip so they chose her being a cousin.

    @Omni-Triforcer
    She was going to go as Ben's friend from school, although a friend with a contentious relationship. CN decided that having her on a summer road trip with her male friend and his grandpa had dirty overtones.....I think they had their own minds in the gutter.

    It works fine in the AU story I'm planing. In that, one or both of her parents were plumbers so they know Max and know they can trust him with their daughter.

  • @Omni-Triforcer
    She was going to go as Ben's friend from school, although a friend with a contentious relationship. CN decided that having her on a summer road trip with her male friend and his grandpa had dirty overtones.....I think they had their own minds in the gutter.

    It works fine in the AU story I'm planing. In that, one or both of her parents were plumbers so they know Max and know they can trust him with their daughter.

    @car54 Dirty overtones? I think you're overthinking this. Gwen was made into Ben's cousin because it makes more sense that way. I even stated why. Simple as that. It's even said so on the Ben 10 Wiki, Tv Tropes, etc.

  • @car54 Dirty overtones? I think you're overthinking this. Gwen was made into Ben's cousin because it makes more sense that way. I even stated why. Simple as that. It's even said so on the Ben 10 Wiki, Tv Tropes, etc.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    I don't remember where I read that they thought it was inappropriate to have her alone with them. They were worried about some kind of protest from these groups who watch cartoons looking for something to complain about.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    I don't remember where I read that they thought it was inappropriate to have her alone with them. They were worried about some kind of protest from these groups who watch cartoons looking for something to complain about.

    @car54 Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

  • @car54 Yeah, that doesn't sound right.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    There are a lot of people these days who are looking for reasons to be offended. It's easy to believe that they would be worried about it. They were the ones over thinking it.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    There are a lot of people these days who are looking for reasons to be offended. It's easy to believe that they would be worried about it. They were the ones over thinking it.

    @car54 Probably not back then but recently, oh yeah, it;s getting really bad now. Curse you Anita Sarkeesian and your ridiculously outright ignorantly stupid bullshit.

  • @car54 Probably not back then but recently, oh yeah, it;s getting really bad now. Curse you Anita Sarkeesian and your ridiculously outright ignorantly stupid bullshit.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    Ben 10 premiered about the time people started to complain that Loony Tunes was to violent and racist (CN edited the Loony Tunes cartoons as a result) so those kinds were already around.at the time.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa
    Ben 10 premiered about the time people started to complain that Loony Tunes was to violent and racist (CN edited the Loony Tunes cartoons as a result) so those kinds were already around.at the time.

    @car54 Well, I did said probably. It's got a lot worse since then. That's for sure.

  • @car54 Well, I did said probably. It's got a lot worse since then. That's for sure.

    @Tactical-Ochoa
    Oh, no doubt about that.

  • Edit of Ben 10,000 without his beard

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    I like him with the beard. And I love Grandpa Max Tennyson with a beard too.
  • Ben 10,000 and Ben's future in the Prime Timeline

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    Another thing I've noticed in the end ultimate alien Azmuth said to Ben he might give him the master control for the Omnitrix on his 18th birthday which would give access to over a million alien. But future Ben would end up with a mere 10,000 Alien ?
  • What's your top 10 favourite Ben 10 Alien

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  • Redesigning Ben 10,000's Appearance

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    Something recently came to mind and that is who I find to be a suitable choice to provide the voice of Ben 10,000/adult Ben Tennyson; especially for the direction for the redesign that I discussed here. That choice is Reuben Langdon, the voice of Dante from Devil May Cry 3 to the recently released Devil May Cry 5. Thinking back to Dante as a character and Langdon's performance of him (most notably his DMC5 performance), I find that Langdon would be a suitable choice to provide the voice of an adult Ben Tennyson. Dante is an incredibly cocky and fun-loving individual and the same can pretty much be said for Ben as well. Cocky and fun-loving while still treating more serious situations with, well, seriousness and focus. Plus, I also find Langdon's DMC5 Dante performance to also sound like a proper match for an adult Ben. If I were to imagine how Ben would sound like as an adult based on the voice that Tara Strong is well known for displaying, I say that Langdon's voice would be a very close match. Feel free to check out Dante in DMC5 and see for yourself if that sort of voice and this very voice actor would indeed be a good choice to voice an adult Ben or not.
  • Mature Ben or Cocky Ben

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    @Tactical-Ochoa Though I never said that there was anything wrong with Ben being different from Peter , just pointing out their differences. That is a good point, Ben has always been attention-seeking and cocky but unlike others who could've been stuck in his situation, he keeps that trait with him even when in the tensest of scenarios and to an extent his natural personality acts as a coping mechanism for him when in battle. So yes, he is behaving like that because he's "being Ben" , but inadvertently by seeing his heroism almost as a game at times, the mental side of it doesn't crush him.