Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3: Show/Episode Discussions
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@Tactical-Ochoa The whole point of the reboot is that Ben is still learning about the watch and it's power and is not experienced, even OS Ben made a lot of mistakes, this version is no different from that Ben, he's still young and not very mature yet, this is just the beginning of the series and it has potential have Ben grow and become better with the Omnitrix, you seriously need to stop comparing this series with the OS, it's not supposes to be exactly like it, it's a reboot so things are going to be different and not the same that doesn't mean it's bad, at least it's way better that the PPG reboot and TTG, this just show CN are on the right track.
@Rexfan1333 I understand where you're coming from, this new Ben seems the same to me plus I try not to compare this series to the original because I think that if you compare it to the original your expectations are set too high and you won't be able to enjoy the show for what it is. I don't even consider this show to be part of the Ben prime timeline
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@Rexfan1333 I understand where you're coming from, this new Ben seems the same to me plus I try not to compare this series to the original because I think that if you compare it to the original your expectations are set too high and you won't be able to enjoy the show for what it is. I don't even consider this show to be part of the Ben prime timeline
@JrPhilgene I agree, I honestly say the reboot turned out better than I expected, I mean of course some people won't like it because of the jokes and such, but I feel this series has a lot of potential for a great storyline. I also try not to compare this to the original, I just want to see the fun as well as the future of this new series. Let's hope this series kicks the PPG reboot and TTG butt.
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@JrPhilgene I agree, I honestly say the reboot turned out better than I expected, I mean of course some people won't like it because of the jokes and such, but I feel this series has a lot of potential for a great storyline. I also try not to compare this to the original, I just want to see the fun as well as the future of this new series. Let's hope this series kicks the PPG reboot and TTG butt.
@Rexfan1333 it already did kick their butt. A friend of mine kept telling me that the reboot would end up like the ppg reboot but after seeing one of the episodes he changed his mind. Obviously there are people that wouldn't like it but I doesn't really matter I honestly can't wait to see what else this show has in store for us in the future and I hope Ben and Gwen age during the reboot or in the sequels since its safe to assume that Ben10 won't be ending soon
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@Rexfan1333 said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Tactical-Ochoa Ben is still getting use to the Omnitrix and the fact that Cannonbolt his harder to control is kinda a problem.
@Rexfan1333 Still doesn't excuse the pointless antics that Ben went through to try and get the Rustbucket back. Ben could've simply and easily transform into XLR8, get ahead of the Rustbucket, find a good spot for an ambush, change into Upgrade, and then once the Rustbucket gets close enough, Ben as Upgrade could just easily integrate into the Rustbucket and make it stop. Problem solved. That type of thinking is what Ben did a lot in the OS, which was worked on by MOA who were working on this reboot. Ben had plenty of time to think that up as well. It's an example of bad writing coming from a team that we expect better out of. One of what I believe to be many examples of bad writing that we're going to end up seeing in this reboot here.
@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Rexfan1333 said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Tactical-Ochoa Ben is still getting use to the Omnitrix and the fact that Cannonbolt his harder to control is kinda a problem.
@Rexfan1333 Still doesn't excuse the pointless antics that Ben went through to try and get the Rustbucket back. Ben could've simply and easily transform into XLR8, get ahead of the Rustbucket, find a good spot for an ambush, change into Upgrade, and then once the Rustbucket gets close enough, Ben as Upgrade could just easily integrate into the Rustbucket and make it stop. Problem solved. That type of thinking is what Benfrrrrrdzz did a lot in the OS, which was worked on by MOA who were working on this reboot. Ben had plenty of time to think that up as well. It's an example of bad writing coming from a team that we expect better out of. One of what I believe to be many examples of bad writing that we're going to end up seeing in this reboot here.
You realize he's 10 right? and even so at this point ben hasn't unlocked master so he can't switch aliens at will. Think things through dude. I know you are trying to find things wrong with the way ben acts but he did nothing wrong during that part.
On a different note this can't possibly be the same ben from OS since he doesn't know who zombozo is
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@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Rexfan1333 said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Tactical-Ochoa Ben is still getting use to the Omnitrix and the fact that Cannonbolt his harder to control is kinda a problem.
@Rexfan1333 Still doesn't excuse the pointless antics that Ben went through to try and get the Rustbucket back. Ben could've simply and easily transform into XLR8, get ahead of the Rustbucket, find a good spot for an ambush, change into Upgrade, and then once the Rustbucket gets close enough, Ben as Upgrade could just easily integrate into the Rustbucket and make it stop. Problem solved. That type of thinking is what Benfrrrrrdzz did a lot in the OS, which was worked on by MOA who were working on this reboot. Ben had plenty of time to think that up as well. It's an example of bad writing coming from a team that we expect better out of. One of what I believe to be many examples of bad writing that we're going to end up seeing in this reboot here.
You realize he's 10 right? and even so at this point ben hasn't unlocked master so he can't switch aliens at will. Think things through dude. I know you are trying to find things wrong with the way ben acts but he did nothing wrong during that part.
On a different note this can't possibly be the same ben from OS since he doesn't know who zombozo is
so i just found out that upgrade is voiced by Yuri Lowenthal ,Wildvine and overflow are voiced by Dee Bradley Baker and Stinkfly is voiced by Roger Craig Smith
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@Tactical-Ochoa The whole point of the reboot is that Ben is still learning about the watch and it's power and is not experienced, even OS Ben made a lot of mistakes, this version is no different from that Ben, he's still young and not very mature yet, this is just the beginning of the series and it has potential have Ben grow and become better with the Omnitrix, you seriously need to stop comparing this series with the OS, it's not supposes to be exactly like it, it's a reboot so things are going to be different and not the same that doesn't mean it's bad, at least it's way better that the PPG reboot and TTG, this just show CN are on the right track.
@Rexfan1333 No, the whole point of the reboot is that Cartoon Network just wants to sell more toys and cater to the minority while having very little to no care in regards to the quality of the show itself. Even the Ben in the early moments of the OS showed more maturity, responsibility, and capability than the reboot Ben. And no, I'm not going to stop comparing the reboot to the OS. This Ben 10 show is labeled as a reboot of the OS and, like I said before and am very much correct on, is also pretty much a remake of the OS. So yes, as I've stated many times before, it's very much expected for me and almost everyone else to go and make comparisons between the OS and the reboot much like how almost everyone compared the PPG reboot to the original PPG. I am and will continue to compare the reboot to the OS. Deal with it.
In fact, here's another thing about these episodes that just came out. They're the first two episodes of the reboot to air and yet it already feels as if I'm at the midpoint of the series. In The Filth, Ben mentions how he's already been going hero plenty of times already. In Freaky Gwen Ben, Ben already know about Hex even though this is the first time that we've seen Hex in this reboot. Clearly, Ben has gone through plenty of moments of being a hero to already learn enough and gain enough experience with it to know better and to be better capable.
And no, considering what's happening right now, CN is not back on track. I'm also finding more and more people showing more dislike towards the episodes. That what people are expecting for this reboot to be is being very much the case. I'm also noticing more and more people that were looking forward to the reboot showing disappointment.
@JrPhilgene It will matter if the people that don't like the reboot are in the majority because like I've stated before, the majority will always speak over and drown out the minority. The majority will always have the final say. The majority will define what is objective. If the majority doesn't favor the Ben 10 reboot, yes, it will very much matter.
@Omni-Triforcer You realize that Ben is a 10-year-old kid with the one of the most powerful devices in the universe, right? Even in the early moments of the OS, even when Ben has to learn to be a better hero, he still shows that he's very much a capable character. The OS still showed that Ben has to and needs to know better because he was in a position where he had to show more care and responsibility with the Omnitrix. Even when Ben was being Ben even in the first season of the OS, Ben still showed more responsibility, care, intelligence and thought, and capability than what they're showing Ben as in the reboot. Not even Ben in the first season of the OS would make mistakes like that because even though he's not the brightest person and there was a lot that he had to learn, Ben was still very much capable in a fight and was still very much capable of adapting to the situations that he found himself in. Yes, he did plenty of things wrong and made plenty of mistakes in the reboot that the OS Ben wouldn't dare to make. Yes, I did thing this through.
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@Rexfan1333 No, the whole point of the reboot is that Cartoon Network just wants to sell more toys and cater to the minority while having very little to no care in regards to the quality of the show itself. Even the Ben in the early moments of the OS showed more maturity, responsibility, and capability than the reboot Ben. And no, I'm not going to stop comparing the reboot to the OS. This Ben 10 show is labeled as a reboot of the OS and, like I said before and am very much correct on, is also pretty much a remake of the OS. So yes, as I've stated many times before, it's very much expected for me and almost everyone else to go and make comparisons between the OS and the reboot much like how almost everyone compared the PPG reboot to the original PPG. I am and will continue to compare the reboot to the OS. Deal with it.
In fact, here's another thing about these episodes that just came out. They're the first two episodes of the reboot to air and yet it already feels as if I'm at the midpoint of the series. In The Filth, Ben mentions how he's already been going hero plenty of times already. In Freaky Gwen Ben, Ben already know about Hex even though this is the first time that we've seen Hex in this reboot. Clearly, Ben has gone through plenty of moments of being a hero to already learn enough and gain enough experience with it to know better and to be better capable.
And no, considering what's happening right now, CN is not back on track. I'm also finding more and more people showing more dislike towards the episodes. That what people are expecting for this reboot to be is being very much the case. I'm also noticing more and more people that were looking forward to the reboot showing disappointment.
@JrPhilgene It will matter if the people that don't like the reboot are in the majority because like I've stated before, the majority will always speak over and drown out the minority. The majority will always have the final say. The majority will define what is objective. If the majority doesn't favor the Ben 10 reboot, yes, it will very much matter.
@Omni-Triforcer You realize that Ben is a 10-year-old kid with the one of the most powerful devices in the universe, right? Even in the early moments of the OS, even when Ben has to learn to be a better hero, he still shows that he's very much a capable character. The OS still showed that Ben has to and needs to know better because he was in a position where he had to show more care and responsibility with the Omnitrix. Even when Ben was being Ben even in the first season of the OS, Ben still showed more responsibility, care, intelligence and thought, and capability than what they're showing Ben as in the reboot. Not even Ben in the first season of the OS would make mistakes like that because even though he's not the brightest person and there was a lot that he had to learn, Ben was still very much capable in a fight and was still very much capable of adapting to the situations that he found himself in. Yes, he did plenty of things wrong and made plenty of mistakes in the reboot that the OS Ben wouldn't dare to make. Yes, I did thing this through.
@Tactical-Ochoa That's fine that you feel that way, but I think the reboot has lots of potential, of course the series will start off rocky at first, even the original series did at one point. I really don't want to have a argument with you over this if you still too stubborn to give this series a chance, honestly no matter what you think of it other people will think of it differently so that's your opinion not a fact, this series is facing what Omniverse has gotten and look how good that series turned out so I don't really care what you think of the reboot. That's your problem, so sorry you still feel that way.
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I was thinking of something. These two episodes that we have right now might have been aired for promotional purposes or something. Maybe on October 8th or 10th we will get a true first episode that will show Ben getting the Omnitrix. Maybe. That's just my guess.
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I was thinking of something. These two episodes that we have right now might have been aired for promotional purposes or something. Maybe on October 8th or 10th we will get a true first episode that will show Ben getting the Omnitrix. Maybe. That's just my guess.
@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
I was thinking of something. These two episodes that we have right now might have been aired for promotional purposes or something. Maybe on October 8th or 10th we will get a true first episode that will show Ben getting the Omnitrix. Maybe. That's just my guess.
Maybe, Didnt they air the first ben 10 episode as a sneak peek for the original series? But in that case it was actually the first episode.
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New episode title
"Riding the Storm Out"Ben and Gwen's camping trip is interrupted by the emotionless Weatherheads - Gust-o, Hail-o, & Shock-o - but a malfunctioning Omnitrix firing out a mishmash of aliens may not be the forecast for success.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_10_(2016_TV_series)#Episodes
''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
''You Get An Upgrade'' -
New episode title
"Riding the Storm Out"Ben and Gwen's camping trip is interrupted by the emotionless Weatherheads - Gust-o, Hail-o, & Shock-o - but a malfunctioning Omnitrix firing out a mishmash of aliens may not be the forecast for success.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_10_(2016_TV_series)#Episodes
@james said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
New episode title
"Riding the Storm Out"
Ben and Gwen's camping trip is interrupted by the emotionless Weatherheads - Gust-o, Hail-o, & Shock-o - but a malfunctioning Omnitrix firing out a mishmash of aliens may not be the forecast for success.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_10_(2016_TV_series)#Episodes
Oh cool we are gonna see alien fusions
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@Ben-10-Fan Has informed me we will be getting new episodes tommorow at 5:30 in australia which is 2:30 am eastern time
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@Tactical-Ochoa That's fine that you feel that way, but I think the reboot has lots of potential, of course the series will start off rocky at first, even the original series did at one point. I really don't want to have a argument with you over this if you still too stubborn to give this series a chance, honestly no matter what you think of it other people will think of it differently so that's your opinion not a fact, this series is facing what Omniverse has gotten and look how good that series turned out so I don't really care what you think of the reboot. That's your problem, so sorry you still feel that way.
@Rexfan1333 Too stubborn to give the reboot a chance? I'm just talking about these two episodes only right now. Not the "potential" that the reboot has. If a good episode does come up, I'll say that it's a good episode. I'm well aware that there are going to be people with different opinions than me. I'm also well aware that there are people with the same opinions as me as well and I'm noticing more and more people that don't like these episodes than those that do. I'm also well aware that my opinion isn't fact right now and neither are yours and anyone else's here. Yeah because a 5.9/10 on IMDB and the low viewer ratings that Omniverse got as well as the still constant criticisms that Omniverse is still receiving and much more really shows that Omniverse was a good show. If you don't care about what I think of the Ben 10 reboot, then why the hell are you even arguing with me in the first place? If you really don't care about what I have to say about the Ben 10 reboot, then don't respond...ever. You constantly getting into arguments with me about this show shows that you do care about my opinions. That's a problem that you're dealing with. It even feels as if you, and some others on here, don't even care about what's in the reboot just as long as it's called Ben 10 and it's a new show regardless of what it is and what problems it has. There are obvious flaws that these episodes have yet those that do like the episodes don't even criticize and point out those very flaws. That you and some others will like these episodes even IF they are bad episodes. It's fine if that's how you and anyone else here feels about the Ben 10 reboot as well but again, if you or anyone else here that does like the reboot doesn't care about whatever criticism that me and anyone else here gives, then don't respond to our comments...ever. Like I said plenty of times before, don't even bother with me. Considering that you and some others keep coming back to argue with me some more shows that you do care so that is a problem that you're dealing with. I'm so sorry that you don't like the opinion of one person to the point that you will keep coming back to constantly argue with that one very person.
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@Rexfan1333 Too stubborn to give the reboot a chance? I'm just talking about these two episodes only right now. Not the "potential" that the reboot has. If a good episode does come up, I'll say that it's a good episode. I'm well aware that there are going to be people with different opinions than me. I'm also well aware that there are people with the same opinions as me as well and I'm noticing more and more people that don't like these episodes than those that do. I'm also well aware that my opinion isn't fact right now and neither are yours and anyone else's here. Yeah because a 5.9/10 on IMDB and the low viewer ratings that Omniverse got as well as the still constant criticisms that Omniverse is still receiving and much more really shows that Omniverse was a good show. If you don't care about what I think of the Ben 10 reboot, then why the hell are you even arguing with me in the first place? If you really don't care about what I have to say about the Ben 10 reboot, then don't respond...ever. You constantly getting into arguments with me about this show shows that you do care about my opinions. That's a problem that you're dealing with. It even feels as if you, and some others on here, don't even care about what's in the reboot just as long as it's called Ben 10 and it's a new show regardless of what it is and what problems it has. There are obvious flaws that these episodes have yet those that do like the episodes don't even criticize and point out those very flaws. That you and some others will like these episodes even IF they are bad episodes. It's fine if that's how you and anyone else here feels about the Ben 10 reboot as well but again, if you or anyone else here that does like the reboot doesn't care about whatever criticism that me and anyone else here gives, then don't respond to our comments...ever. Like I said plenty of times before, don't even bother with me. Considering that you and some others keep coming back to argue with me some more shows that you do care so that is a problem that you're dealing with. I'm so sorry that you don't like the opinion of one person to the point that you will keep coming back to constantly argue with that one very person.
@Tactical-Ochoa You are the one yelling at me, I'm just saying that these are the first episodes which are good and there is plenty more episodes coming that could be even better. I'm not trying to make any trouble here, but it's seems no matter what this reboot does you always try to finds something wrong with it. I'm okay with crituques, but you just do nothing but bash it.
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@Ben-10-Fan Has informed me we will be getting new episodes tommorow at 5:30 in australia which is 2:30 am eastern time
@Omni-Triforcer More Ben 10 at 4 October
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@Tactical-Ochoa You are the one yelling at me, I'm just saying that these are the first episodes which are good and there is plenty more episodes coming that could be even better. I'm not trying to make any trouble here, but it's seems no matter what this reboot does you always try to finds something wrong with it. I'm okay with crituques, but you just do nothing but bash it.
@Rexfan1333 There you go again, responding to my comment even though you said that you don't care about what I have to say. I said how I liked Ben and Gwen's interactions and teamwork in Freaky Gwen Ben. That I thought that was a good thing with that episode. That's bashing the reboot? Sounds more like you're giving me bullshit. If you don't care about my opinions, don't respond to them.
And no, the episodes are not good because, again, there are more people that are showing dislike to those two episodes than those that like them. You and some others find the episodes to be good. Most, if not everyone else, say otherwise.
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@Rexfan1333 There you go again, responding to my comment even though you said that you don't care about what I have to say. I said how I liked Ben and Gwen's interactions and teamwork in Freaky Gwen Ben. That I thought that was a good thing with that episode. That's bashing the reboot? Sounds more like you're giving me bullshit. If you don't care about my opinions, don't respond to them.
And no, the episodes are not good because, again, there are more people that are showing dislike to those two episodes than those that like them. You and some others find the episodes to be good. Most, if not everyone else, say otherwise.
@Tactical-Ochoa That's your opinion, not everyone else thinks like you, if you can't deal with the changes, then just stop watching the reboot altogether, seriously all you do is complain about the reboot instead of just watching it for the fun and adventure the series has, I'm done talking to you, it's like talking to a wall.
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@Rexfan1333 There you go again, responding to my comment even though you said that you don't care about what I have to say. I said how I liked Ben and Gwen's interactions and teamwork in Freaky Gwen Ben. That I thought that was a good thing with that episode. That's bashing the reboot? Sounds more like you're giving me bullshit. If you don't care about my opinions, don't respond to them.
And no, the episodes are not good because, again, there are more people that are showing dislike to those two episodes than those that like them. You and some others find the episodes to be good. Most, if not everyone else, say otherwise.
@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Rexfan1333 There you go again, responding to my comment even though you said that you don't care about what I have to say. I said how I liked Ben and Gwen's interactions and teamwork in Freaky Gwen Ben. That I thought that was a good thing with that episode. That's bashing the reboot? Sounds more like you're giving me bullshit. If you don't care about my opinions, don't respond to them.
And no, the episodes are not good because, again, there are more people that are showing dislike to those two episodes than those that like them. You and some others find the episodes to be good. Most, if not everyone else, say otherwise.
I haven't heard anyone else say the episodes were bad.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 3:
@Rexfan1333 There you go again, responding to my comment even though you said that you don't care about what I have to say. I said how I liked Ben and Gwen's interactions and teamwork in Freaky Gwen Ben. That I thought that was a good thing with that episode. That's bashing the reboot? Sounds more like you're giving me bullshit. If you don't care about my opinions, don't respond to them.
And no, the episodes are not good because, again, there are more people that are showing dislike to those two episodes than those that like them. You and some others find the episodes to be good. Most, if not everyone else, say otherwise.
I haven't heard anyone else say the episodes were bad.
@Omni-Triforcer I heard a few hate comments, but they are a small minority, most of it are into the reboot at what I saw.
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@Omni-Triforcer I heard a few hate comments, but they are a small minority, most of it are into the reboot at what I saw.
@Rexfan1333 @Omni-Triforcer You haven't been looking around hard and well enough. I'm getting more and more comments on Reddit alone saying that the episodes are bad. I just spoke with a well-known YouTuber and cartoon enthusiast and critic with thousands of supporters say that he didn't like the episodes. I'm noticing more and more people showing dislike towards the episodes and agreements towards my opinions of them. A small minority? More like becoming more and more of the majority.
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