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    Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2

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    • cooljay7
      cooljay7 last edited by

      I haven't watched the reboot since the beginning of season 2 (to be honest I lost interest in it) but I'm surprised that Ben has gotten no new aliens (yet) since Shock Rock. Apparently, 75 episodes of the reboot have aired worldwide and we've only gotten 2 new aliens. Not to mention that Ben lost Upgrade and Gax so we're still at 10 aliens 75 episodes in.

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      • Ungrateful-Wolf
        Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

        tell me about it, at least the "he's now Ben 11" joke works even less than it did (#bringGaxandUpgradeback2k18)

        Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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        • Ultimate OmniTri
          Ultimate OmniTri Moderator @cooljay7 last edited by

          @cooljay7 ben will be getting new aliens in season 3 but we will also be losing some aliens from his current line up. Also did you guys see this?
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          10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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          • Ungrateful-Wolf
            Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

            Ben: is up against all these dangers, potentially losing aliens he might really need and going through a lot of emotional pain and suffering
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            Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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            • cooljay7
              cooljay7 @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

              @ultimate-omnitri Yeah I saw that it seems interesting. It may actually get me to start to watch the reboot again.

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              • Tactical Ochoa
                Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                @ultimate-omnitri Oh yeah, sure, considering how they handled the rest of the reboot and their lack of an understanding on what made Ben 10 so great in the first place, this is really going to go so well for them. This sounds like such a brilliant idea and direction to go. (sarcasm)

                "the Omnitrix is now a gateway through to where an evil alien empire will invade Earth"
                Wow. What a way to make the Omnitrix seem less like, well, the Omnitrix.

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                • Ungrateful-Wolf
                  Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                  To be fair, the sequels weren't far from changing the Omnitrix's concept either: DAA has Ben go inside replicas of the aliens' planets, UA had Ben go inside the Omnitrix because a glitch made Ben's Ultimates become alive, Alien Swarm even had Ben's DNA thrown into the mix to unlock Nanomech.
                  Not to mention how OV's Omnitrix works with the digital scroll or the security system that requires Ben giving away personal information if his biometric data changes when it worked just fine in OS. Or that apparently, the "turn-into-an-alien-randomly-every-20-seconds" thing the OS Trix had as a glitch is now a function available in the watch as a "randomizer".
                  Honestly, each series had their own take on how the watch is, even Master Control started becoming inconsistent during UAF.

                  Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                  • Tactical Ochoa
                    Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                    @ungrateful-wolf Your examples aren't examples of deliberate changes to what the Omnitrix is. Most of your examples are gimmicks with some of them being a one-time-only thing and some of them not even making any sense. They didn't change what the Omnitrix and its main purpose and function was. Yes, the Master Control became inconsistent during UAF. That was due to the writers having little understanding of the lore and continuity that the Original Series set up. From what I can recall, none of the sequel shows ever went to the extent of making the Omnitrix a "gateway to an evil empire" or something of the likes. The sequel shows certainly screwed up a lot with how they handled the Omnitrix but from what I recall, they never went that far out of left field.

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                    • csgt
                      csgt @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                      @tactical-ochoa said in Ben 10 Reboot Discussion Part 1: Season 2:

                      "the Omnitrix is now a gateway through to where an evil alien empire will invade Earth"
                      Wow. What a way to make the Omnitrix seem less like, well, the Omnitrix.

                      I'm pretty sure that this isn't a permanent change, just a one-time-only thing too. "The Omnitrix is now a gateway" I mean, you could say about Secret of the Omnitrix, "The Omnitrix is now a time bomb that can destroy the entire universe"

                      My bet is that by the end of the season finale the Omnitrix will be fully back to normal, and maybe without the Omni-Enhanced aliens (if I'm correct, I won't miss them)

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                      • Tactical Ochoa
                        Tactical Ochoa @csgt last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                        @csgt Except the self-destruct sequence on the Omnitrix was one of the many features of it. Not something that deliberately changed what the Omnitrix itself was. It was an addition that was implemented in a way that fitted in well with the Omnitrix.

                        After having watched these videos a while back, I doubt that they're making this a one-time-only thing.
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xr8KeaVFvY
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwiwVwS6JN8&t=3s

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                        • Ungrateful-Wolf
                          Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                          I am just saying that this isn't the first time the franchise did a "a gimmick" like this one. They didn't change what the Omnitrix was, but some of the things it had in the way it worked.
                          I think that by "The Omnitrix is now a gateway", they mean to say that Shock Rock did something in the Omnitrix that forced it to become a portal, a teleporter or some other thing he could use to conquer the world by bringing his army to Earth, like when Ben got transported in the Null Void without his hand because of Sunder's energy weapon. It's not like Azmuth ever intended it to do that, that's just how it reacted when someone messed with it.
                          The Omnitrix is one of the most advanced devices in the galaxy, it's not far-fetched to imagine that someone with enough intelligence and skill (like Albedo and Psychobos) could modify it to make it do something it didn't originally have. The Omni-Enhancements and Ultimate forms are a good example of that since Azmuth probably didn't intend neither one or the other, since they were features Ben and Albedo added later on.
                          And at least, he's using it in a relatively believable manner as a way for his army to arrive on Earth, not to break through time and space to reach his destination like Eon did with the Hands of Armageddon in "Ben 10,000 returns" by messing with Ben and Ultimate Ben's watches.

                          Sometimes, being alone is the right way to find someone else

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                          • Tactical Ochoa
                            Tactical Ochoa @Ungrateful-Wolf last edited by

                            @ungrateful-wolf And you know what, I hope that this really is nothing more than just a one-time-only thing. Part of me just doubts that given what Cartoon Network Studios and Man of Action have done with the rest of the reboot show.

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                            • Tactical Ochoa
                              Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                              Wasn't there supposed to be some new (well, "new" since that they aired internationally first yet haven't aired in the US yet) episodes of the Ben 10 reboot that were supposed to air in the US a couple of days ago on July 30th?

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                              • james
                                james Ben 10 Fans last edited by james

                                Yes there were some episodes that were supposed to air on July 30.

                                ''What Happens When The Best You Can Do Just Isn't Enough''
                                ''You Get An Upgrade''

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                                • Tactical Ochoa
                                  Tactical Ochoa @james last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                                  @james Ok. CN obviously changed that then because looking at CN Schedule Archive's schedule for this week, those episodes definitely did not air.

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                                  • Tactical Ochoa
                                    Tactical Ochoa last edited by Tactical Ochoa

                                    Also, for anyone that hasn't seen this yet and are interested, last week I posted my newest article that covers Charmcaster and what I think are ways to help fix and improve her and overall make her a much better character.

                                    https://ben10club.org/topic/387/ben-10-how-to-fix-and-improve-charmcaster

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                                    • J
                                      jordancon2000 last edited by

                                      Games relating to the Season 2 Finale: https://www.ben10-omnitrix.com/africa/

                                      Season 3 Teaser w/ New Alien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiHelomm-Ws

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                                      • J
                                        jordancon2000 last edited by

                                        New episodes air Sept. 10-14:
                                        Sept. 10 - Vote Zombozo & Drone On
                                        Sept. 11 - Safari Sa'Bad & The Nature of Things
                                        Sept. 12 - The Sound and the Furry & Reststop Roustabout
                                        Sept. 13 - That's the Stuff & The Feels
                                        Sept. 14 - Past Aliens Present & Dreamtime
                                        http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/ben-10/listings/

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                                        • J
                                          jordancon2000 last edited by

                                          Season 2 Finale: Innervasion will premiere on CN Asia on Sept. 22

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqUeudUQRh8

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                                          • jondennison72
                                            jondennison72 Ben 10 Fans last edited by

                                            I wonder when they're gonna show the 5 part of Ben 10 Reboot season 2 Finale "Innervasion" when it aired on Youtube.com or Cartoon Network?

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