Ben 10 2016 Reboot Season 2 Review: Part 1
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@ebomnitrix Good point. I forgot about those two aliens.
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Also the Ben 10 Reboot did not get even close to a million average for the entire year in ratings. Also the 11 minute episode format is not really working well unless you intend to make the reboot a series all about comedy. I don't think their heart isn't into making the current reboot by the producers.
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I made a small edit to the review due to a good point that @Ebomnitrix made about Shock Rock really being the 8th electric-type aliens instead of the 6th electric-type alien in the franchise.
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So, i've been silent for a while.
Mainly because i hate your unceasing negativity.
Now, your review was good, logical, and i'm in no way salty or willing to defend this show by saying its great.
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You seem incredibly biased for the original series to the point that you show strong dislike for all the other variants of ben 10. you seem to wish it had ended in 2005. You also act as though the weather-heads are complete garbage for no real reason. while they aren't creative, at least explain your dislike. And also, i really do feel that you should relax a bit about the omni-enhancements. Yes, they are just a gimmick that doesn't add much. but they do add something. While you stated they neutralize grey matter completely, you failed to mention what they did right. They properly enhanced the aliens. Diamond head's upgrades remind me of his body changing abilities from the original. Overflow gained limited ice powers. Heatblast gained flight. They legitamately enhanced the aliens in some regards. It may be meant to sell toys, but the omni-enhancements aren't all trash. I see upgrade's removal as a trade off. They removed upgrading tech for upgrading his own aliens. Not that i like this decision at all, and i think that they should've just kept upgrade. Lastly, i think that season 2 is more of the same, but not trash. I don't think it MUST be watched, but it isn't bad enough to be labeled as a pile of crap.
Nobody gets to choose how it happens.
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He has a point, you should at least talk about the stuff you like. Instead of making comparisons over and over to how much you love the original and hate every other Ben 10 series. All you do is talk about how much you hate any other Ben 10 incarnation, you could at least talk about stuff you like from this series too? We know you're a big OS fanboy, but you should at least be glad that Ben 10 is still a thing airing on TV and that other generations can at least know about the franchise. All I'm saying is at least tell me there's some stuff here you like?
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@andrew42 You say that I seem to wish that Ben 10 ended in 2005. First off, only one episode of the original show aired in 2005. Second, you seem to forget that I fully support a fan fiction series that acts as a sequel to the Original Series; a fan fiction series that I had expressed plenty of times should be the sequel that the Ben 10 franchise should've had instead of Alien Force onwards. You say that I have a strong dislike towards all other variants of Ben 10 that are not the Original Series, even though I have expressed enough on how I don't have a strong dislike towards these other variants. I don't outright hate them. I used to years back but I changed my views over time.
You want me to explain why I don't like the Weatherheads, right? I already did. It's in one of my previous episode reviews. Either you read it and forgot or you glossed over it. No, I don't find the Weatherheads to be complete garbage. I just find them to be really annoying.
I never made the argument that they were all trash. Just that the Omni-Enhancements just don't really work well for the show and that the show doesn't really need them.
@Ebomnitrix You suggest for me to talk more about stuff that I like. I already did that. I did state some more positive aspects in my Season 2: Part 1 review. I already stated plenty of things about the other Ben 10 shows that I do like. I talked about how I liked the Highbreed and DNAliens, even though there are some issues that I have that need to be fixed about them. I talked about all the aliens from the sequel shows that I did like and explained plenty of reasons as to why. I believe I stated how I find Omniverse to be better than Alien Force and Ultimate Alien and some of the elements in Omniverse that I did like. I did state some stuff about the Ben 10 reboot that I did like. I have suggested plenty of fixed and improvements that could be made to make various elements of the sequel shows to be of better quality. You can find all of that by going back to my previous topic pages and articles that I made and go through reading them again.
Yes, I like to compare the Original Series to the sequel shows because they are all part of the Ben 10 franchise. Alien Force is a sequel to the Original Series. Yes, I like to compare the Original Series to the Ben 10 reboot because it's a reboot to the Original Series. A reboot that uses many of the same elements as the Original Series including the same general premise. I, along with anyone else, are justifiably allowed to make these very comparisons.
Yes, I like the Original Series a lot. It's a great show. It's not amazing however. There are other shows out there that are better than the Original Series. The Original Series does have plenty of issues; plenty of moments that I wish were done better. I don't like Benmummy and Benvicktor and I already explained why before. I don't like the Christmas special episode. A Change of Face was a really nice episode but the part where Gwen (in Charmcaster's body) is in juvenile hall is a moment in the episode that I wish was done better as it felt too easy for Gwen to be able to break out and find her way back to Ben and Max. There's an adult comic series made by Fixxxer and Tease Comix that did that very episode in a much better way. Remove all the more adult-rated content and make it more kid friendly and it would've been a great remake to A Change of Face. There are still plenty of other issues that I have with the Original Series that I could list down. The point of what I'm making here is that no, I'm not an OS fanboy because fanboys wouldn't even think to make such criticisms of the things that they fanboy over.
I should be glad that Ben 10 is still a thing airing on TV? I guess that I should also be glad that new Call of Duty games continue to be made and released every year even though the series has become very much bland and mediocre nowadays and has long overstayed its welcome. I guess that I should also be glad that EA's Star Wars Battlefront 2 was made even though EA tried to issue predatory practices with the game's loot boxes and that the game as a whole still doesn't live up to what Pandemic managed to achieve with the 2005 Star Wars Battlefront 2 game. I guess I should also be glad that the Powerpuff Girls reboot was a thing on TV even though that's a terrible show. I guess I should be glad of a lot of things that are out today no matter how bad they are. I stated this before plenty of times. They should've rerun the Original Series instead of making a reboot. If they want newer generations to know about the Ben 10 franchise, then this is what they should've done instead. I'd rather be glad of all the things out there that are actually good.
It's funny how you guys, along with plenty of other users on here, complain about how I'm always being negative here and how I should try to be more positive while either forgetting and/or glossing over all the many positive things that I've done on here as well. It's a running gag at this point. No @Ebomnitrix, @Andrew42 doesn't have a point because what you ask for me to do, again, you can find that I already did that by going back and reading my previous articles again. @Andrew42, I'm incredibly biased here? Considering that you've displayed plenty of moments of you being so arrogant and ignorant towards whatever criticisms I make of Ben 10 that you like, complaining that I'm always being negative even though that's clearly not true, I say you're the one that is incredibly biased here. You and plenty of others on here that do the same exact thing towards me. Sure, everyone is biased in some way and level. Again, I like the Original Series a lot and I also like Bwen a lot so yeah, I can and will admit that I do have some bias in that. It's not just Ben 10 either. There are plenty of things that I can and will admit that I'm biased towards. My likeness towards 1982's John Carpenter's The Thing, the original Teen Titans, Ed Edd n Eddy, Terminator 2, Japan and anime, Resident Evil, etc as well as my dislikes towards Teen Titans Go!, the current state of Cartoon Network, certain game publishing companies such as Activision and EA, etc. Again, everyone is biased in some way and level. Me being incredibly biased though? No, there are plenty of things that I've done that are legitimate evidence that that's not true. Again, I used to have a strong hate towards the Ben 10 sequel shows but not anymore. I looked back at that and I admit that I often went too far back then. There is also plenty of legitimate evidence on this website that shows that you and plenty of others on here are the ones that are incredibly biased.
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The only Ben 10 idea left I could only think of is an Original Series crossover movie with Batman: Brave & The Bold. Brave & The Bold is a teamup series.
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@tactical-ochoa Why do you make everyone here sound like an idiot when they are talking to you? You seems to have an argument to everything. It doesnt seem you get why people critize you and call you negative.
As for the second season of the reboot: I like it. Its better than season 1, even though the filler episodes are contuining to bother me. But Animorphosis I really like. Especially the part with Animo Rath. And I also like The 11th Alien (however its the 12th alien tecnically). I really dig Shock Rock and really like to see what else in store for this series. I really hope Kevin and Julie comes back sometime. And dont come here and say: "Julie will never come back". We never know. Some years ago people said "The original aliens will never come back". And quess what, they come back. Happy suprise.
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Ugh. This is why i've been avoiding this place. whenever i share an opinion and give feedback, ochoa launches into a long rant and shittalks me into the ground.
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@andrew42 Couldnt agree more
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@mortie-10 said in Ben 10 2016 Reboot Season 2 Review: Part 1:
@tactical-ochoa Why do you make everyone here sound like an idiot when they are talking to you?
Because often times it does feel like I'm talking to a bunch of intolerable idiots. Oh and everyone, you say? Oh no no no no no no no. It's only just you and the select few others that often want to tussle with me and whine and complain that I'm "always being negative" whenever I criticize something about Ben 10 that you like. Even going so far to the point where one of you made a threat towards my life and later on tried to write off an unjustifiable excuse for it.
You all want for me to be more positive, right? Let me ask all of you this. Let's say that I do what you say and my next few articles on here are more positive articles about the Ben 10 franchise. Then, after making those few positive articles, my next article is more criticism of the Ben 10 franchise. What guarantees do I have that the select few of you aren't going to come out of the wood-works and complain and whine to me about how I'm "always being negative," huh? What guarantees do I have that you guys aren't going to try and pull the same schtick again? You guys can say that you won't do such a thing towards me but it's hard to take people's word on things and we wouldn't really know for sure until it happens. No, correction, it did happen because like I said, plenty of times on this website, I have displayed being positive towards plenty of things about anything Ben 10 related outside of the Original Series. Yet, whenever I make criticism towards other things in Ben 10 (especially stuff that you guys like), you all complain and whine that I'm always being negative. Part of me knows for sure that if I do what you all say, you're not going to be satisfied with it and the moment I make any form of criticism towards Ben 10 again, you're going to make these same complaints and we're all going to be back at square one.
No, I'm not going to make articles and topic pages in an attempt to satisfy the select few of you. I make articles that I want to make. I don't make articles that you want to see. No matter how many times you guys complain, I am not going to listen to you. I am going to continue to make content that I...want...to make.
Going off topic here as well, @Andrew42's previous comment just reminded me of something. You guys complain plenty of times before that I swear on this website, making the excuse that the Ben 10 franchise is a kid friendly show and that kids go on this website. Yet, @Andrew42 just used a swear word in his previous comment on this page. On the "New Ben 10 Club Merchandise" page, @Ultimate-OmniTri used swear words in one of his comments and he's the one that made the final complaint that led to me temporarily losing my Global Moderator status on here. There are also plenty of other cases of you guys swearing on this website even after the incident that led to me temporarily losing my Global Moderator status. Why is it that when I swear, that is not an ok thing for me to do on here yet when any of you swear, as far as I know, no complaints are made and all is good on this website? Please, explain to me. Enlighten me on this.
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@tactical-ochoa i swore because i'm done here. I'm done.
I'm tired of trying to help shape this website into something better.
I just want to say this before i go.
The original series isn't perfect.
Times change, and so do people and companies.
The old ben is gone.
we're not getting him back, and frankly, we don't deserve him.
We cannot get what we want. MOA is not going to do what we want.
We need to accept what we have. nothing lasts forever.
Things have changed for ben 10, not for better, but we need to adapt the way he does.
I think that we should be glad ben 10 still exists.
Unless i have good reason, this is the last thing i need and want to say to you all.Nobody gets to choose how it happens.
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@andrew42 Of course the Original Series isn't perfect. I just recently criticized it, which, as usual, you forgot about or didn't read it. Yes, times change. Doesn't mean they are good and should be accepted though. Is this your goodbye from the website here? If so, yes, I'm pretty sure that you'll be back on here later.
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I'm going back to what @Andrew42 stated about the Omni-Enhancements here since that I forgot to cover that. So Diamondhead's Omni-Enhancement reflects his body changing abilities in the Original Series, right? Then what's the point of him having be Omni-Enhanced just so he could do something that he should've been able to do in the first place? Just let Diamondhead do that normally. Don't give him an Omni-Enhancement just so he could do something that he has already done before in the previous shows. Overflow's Omni-Enhancement gives him ice powers, huh. Seems more like it would've just been better to simply bring back another alien instead, such as Arctiguana. Thanks to his Omni-Enhancement, Heatblast can now do what he should've already be able to do in the first place and that he has indeed done in previous Ben 10 show. Wow, that really makes his Omni-Enhancement worth having.
Like I said before in my review, the Omni-Enhancements in this show is really more like an exo-suit/power armor for these aliens. They don't really do anything new to any of Ben's aliens. They just allow for Ben's aliens to do more of the same stuff that they typically do and anything that the Omni-Enhancements do add to these aliens aren't actually new here. More often, what the Omni-Enhancements do add to Ben's aliens that they can now do in the reboot are really just abilities that they should've been already to do in the first place and they have indeed done without the Omni-Enhancements in previous shows. With his Omni-Enhancements, Four Arms just does more of what he does. With his Omni-Enhancements, Cannonbolt does more of the same stuff that he typically does. With his Omni-Enhancements, Wildvine does more of the same stuff that he already does. Sure, ice powers is new to Overflow but it's not like that's something that's new in the Ben 10 franchise. Then you have moments like what I explained about Grey Matter and his Omni-Enhancement.
Yes, Upgrade's removal is a trade off and it's a trade off that wasn't worth it.
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No Diamondhead's Omni-Enhancement works more like how Chromastone absorbs energy instead of reflecting energy because it would just shine off enemies rather than power himself up and create an energy blast or something (kind of like what happened in Vendetta for Diamondhead, despite that's the one thing we'd all like to forget). However Diamondhead was never able to make energy weapons before so that's a bonus.
Omni-Enhanced Heatblast will most likely be used more just because its Heatblast, and because people love aliens with blue fire.
Overflow gets hydro cannons which is an added bonus. XLR8 gets a speed boost and his wheels now run like chainsaws if you think about it like that.
The only ridiculous OE's imo is Four Arms and Grey Matter, and that's just in design. While the concept is cool, Four Arms just gets what happened to Smokey Quartz in Steven Universe with the extra arms deal... which is weird imo.
Stinkfly's homing spit is probably one of the most unique and fun powers they've ever given in a Ben 10 show because we never had an alien with homing (whatever's.)
Just remember this is Man of Action using one of the later products to add onto the Ben 10 show and doing something new with it. You can tell its all based off the Generator Rex Omega Builds and now that they're adding it into Ben 10 I think it works more than an Ultimate form works. Tbh I don't see any problems with the Omni-Enhanced concept, it either adds stuff the fans want or just redeems stuff that was dropped like Wildvine's fly trap and XLR8's visor. Its just if you're a long time Ben 10 fan and they add stuff like this, then you know its pretty crazy and cool.It's Action Time!
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@ebomnitrix So in the case with Diamondhead, it's the same matter as with Overflow. It's new to Diamondhead but it's not new to the Ben 10 franchise. Yeah, we never got an alien that can shoot projectiles with homing abilities because it doesn't make sense for an alien to have much like how Ultimate Humungousaur has freakin rocket launchers for arms. Stinkfly's spit having homing abilities? I do not recall seeing that in the show at all. In the case with Overflow getting hydro cannons and XLR8's speed boost, again, exo-suit/power armor. You know, Master Chief and other Spartans in the Halo series, Power Armor in the Fallout series, exo-suits in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, the exo-suit that Max wore in the Original Series, etc. The Omni-Enhancements mostly allow aliens like Overflow and XLR8 to do more of the same.
I'm a long time Ben 10 fan and no, I don't find Omni-Enhancements to be crazy and cool for the very reasons that I listed before in my review and in the comments of this page. I've also seen plenty of other long time Ben 10 fans that don't see the Omni-Enhancements the same way either. Being a long time Ben 10 fan doesn't mean that Omni-Enhancements should be seen as "crazy and cool." You find Omni-Enhancements to be crazy and cool. I find Omni-Enhancements to be bland, unnecessary, and a toy-advertising gimmick and it is a gimmick that's really meant to sell more toys. After all, the very first time we've seen Shock Rock and the Omni-Enhancements was at a toy fair.
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@andrew42 "Heatblast gained flight."
Actually, Heatblast could already fly in the Season 1 episode "Xingo".
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@blob-takeshi It's not just that episode either. We've seen Heatblast gain flight many times before already in the previous shows and he didn't need some pointless Omni-Enhancement to achieve that.
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The thing about Heatblast's flight, despite he already has it, they gave him a jetpack to give his flight a turbo boost. Like if they gave Astrodactyl a turbo boost with his jetpack and he would go incredibly as fast as Jetray.
