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  • @Tactical-Ochoa Personally I honestly don't mind how they introduced Michael Morningstar, especially since its a new timeline, I mean people in different timelines will have changes like this honestly, and I honestly don't mind how he shows up at all. Hex wasn't all that screwed up too because when he debuted he was still the OS villain he was, I mean Brief Career was just... no, but the upcoming episode for him is promising. The only villain I've had a problem since his return is Animo, and its because he's literally been in the sidelines and we have YET to see a physical appearance.

  • @Nikita--Kleutin Great to see Vilgax still look like Vilgax. Hoping they won't mess this up.

  • Good. Glad that Vilgax, and even Kraab, are going to be in the reboot. Granted, Kraab is supposed to be a bounty hunter and not one of Vilgax's henchmen. Why they're waiting till season 2 to introduce Vilgax? I don't know. Hopefully they won't screw him up. Then again, they screwed up all the other villains so a part of me predicts that they're going to screw up Vilgax as well. This also likely means that there's going to be a season 2, which I figured would happen. Like I said, this show would most likely last for only 1 or 2 seasons and, much like what RebelTaxi said in regards to the PPG reboot getting a second season, there would likely be a season 2 of the Ben 10 reboot because CN Studios would already start working on it the moment they finished producing the first season.

    @Tactical-Ochoa I honestly think season 2 might be serious (it might turn out to be those shows that slowly go from Meh/okay to decent/good situations like Omniverse), I'm not sure, I could be wrong, but this Vilgax looks actually intimidating to say the least, but we just have to wait.

    It seems the first season was more trying to introduce you to characters as well as aliens so it wasn't impressive, but we might actually get something interesting pretty soon.

  • I honestly think toys look pretty cool, they have pretty epic concepts, but I can see CN screw them up badly.

    Still sucks that we have no Gwen and Max figures.

  • @Nikita--Kleutin Finally Vilgax!

  • @Nikita--Kleutin Finally Vilgax!

    @Mortie-10 I know right, finally some good news worth getting.

  • @Mortie-10 I know right, finally some good news worth getting.

    @Rexfan1333 and he looks so goood

  • I have a feeling we will see vilgax toward the end of the season

  • One small thing that I have to say, I find that sword that he has to be out of place for him. It looks too generic and it doesn't fit into his design. An alien warlord with advanced technology and he has a plain sword? It just doesn't look right for Vilgax to have that.

  • One small thing that I have to say, I find that sword that he has to be out of place for him. It looks too generic and it doesn't fit into his design. An alien warlord with advanced technology and he has a plain sword? It just doesn't look right for Vilgax to have that.

    @Tactical-Ochoa He used a sword in UAF, it didn't bother me at all actually.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa He used a sword in UAF, it didn't bother me at all actually.

    @Rexfan1333 I know that. He used a bunch of stuff and did a bunch of things in UAF that really didn't suit him as a villain. It bothered me and many others because it didn't make Vilgax like Vilgax. It didn't make Vilgax the very villain and character that's he's supposed to be. It didn't match Vilgax's identity and what he is best known for.

  • @Rexfan1333 I know that. He used a bunch of stuff and did a bunch of things in UAF that really didn't suit him as a villain. It bothered me and many others because it didn't make Vilgax like Vilgax. It didn't make Vilgax the very villain and character that's he's supposed to be. It didn't match Vilgax's identity and what he is best known for.

    @Tactical-Ochoa I get you, but as long as he's really evil, I'm okay with it. Sucks he might just be a generic vilian though, I want my villians with depth and not like a 2 dimensional take over the world kind of villian we see everyday in media.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa I get you, but as long as he's really evil, I'm okay with it. Sucks he might just be a generic vilian though, I want my villians with depth and not like a 2 dimensional take over the world kind of villian we see everyday in media.

    @Rexfan1333 And I'm not ok with that. A lot of people are not going to be ok with that. We don't want Vilgax to just be even. We want him to be Vilgax. You say you're ok with it but it's really not ok and it shouldn't be ok to you and anyone else. If they screw up Vilgax in the Ben 10 reboot, criticize them for it. Get on their case about it. Negativity can benefit the show through the criticism that people provide. Improvements can't be properly made if there is no criticism to rely on. Vilgax shouldn't just be really evil. He should be Vilgax. Vilgax should have what made him at his best. Not be evil for the sake of being evil. Just being really evil doesn't make a good villain. You find this ok but it shouldn't be ok to you and anyone else here.

  • @Rexfan1333 And I'm not ok with that. A lot of people are not going to be ok with that. We don't want Vilgax to just be even. We want him to be Vilgax. You say you're ok with it but it's really not ok and it shouldn't be ok to you and anyone else. If they screw up Vilgax in the Ben 10 reboot, criticize them for it. Get on their case about it. Negativity can benefit the show through the criticism that people provide. Improvements can't be properly made if there is no criticism to rely on. Vilgax shouldn't just be really evil. He should be Vilgax. Vilgax should have what made him at his best. Not be evil for the sake of being evil. Just being really evil doesn't make a good villain. You find this ok but it shouldn't be ok to you and anyone else here.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Ture, makes me wish Ben 10 got the same treatment as Samurai Jack, but Man Of Action just stuck with CN eventhough they are obviously struggling with their shows and making god awful decisions, I want depth, drama, and character development in Ben 10 as well as talented artist working on it (the Japanese are incredibly good at this which is why I want a Ben 10 anime so badly), but it seems we might not get that anytime soon.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa Ture, makes me wish Ben 10 got the same treatment as Samurai Jack, but Man Of Action just stuck with CN eventhough they are obviously struggling with their shows and making god awful decisions, I want depth, drama, and character development in Ben 10 as well as talented artist working on it (the Japanese are incredibly good at this which is why I want a Ben 10 anime so badly), but it seems we might not get that anytime soon.

    @Rexfan1333 Which is why it's important that fans advocate for better quality shows. If they don't want to listen to us, then we make them to listen to us. To say "no" to this type of stuff and to tell them what we really want.

  • @Rexfan1333 Which is why it's important that fans advocate for better quality shows. If they don't want to listen to us, then we make them to listen to us. To say "no" to this type of stuff and to tell them what we really want.

    @Tactical-Ochoa But problem they won't listen to us older fans, they are targeting the next generation of kids, I honestly don't think kids of this generation don't understand Ben 10 at all which is why the series should grow with us fans like Samurai Jack is doing. I don't want the franchise to end up failing because of CNs greed.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa But problem they won't listen to us older fans, they are targeting the next generation of kids, I honestly don't think kids of this generation don't understand Ben 10 at all which is why the series should grow with us fans like Samurai Jack is doing. I don't want the franchise to end up failing because of CNs greed.

    @Rexfan1333 Again, if they don't want to listen to us, then we make them listen to us.

  • @Rexfan1333 Again, if they don't want to listen to us, then we make them listen to us.

    @Tactical-Ochoa That's all I want, but CN still might misunderstand and cancel Ben 10 for good. I would rather have the series rest for a while and then revive it. I do wonder if we can give MOA our feed back on the reboot.

  • @Tactical-Ochoa That's all I want, but CN still might misunderstand and cancel Ben 10 for good. I would rather have the series rest for a while and then revive it. I do wonder if we can give MOA our feed back on the reboot.

    @Rexfan1333 Make sure that they understand what we want for Ben 10. They don't listen to us, make the listen to us. Don't want CN to misunderstand the message and criticism, make sure that they understand what we really want. Make sure that the message is clear.

  • @Rexfan1333 Make sure that they understand what we want for Ben 10. They don't listen to us, make the listen to us. Don't want CN to misunderstand the message and criticism, make sure that they understand what we really want. Make sure that the message is clear.

    @Tactical-Ochoa Yeah, like tell them to give Ben 10 to Toonami or Adult Swim, they know what fans want and will do what ever it takes to give us something great, eventhough Netflix would be cool, Toonami and Adult Swim would be a perfect place for a Si-Fi/Adventure series like Ben 10.

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    @Rexfan1333 That's another thing. I don't hate the reboot's art style either. I just don't like it and I just give it a lot of criticism. With Cartoon Network, we're now at a point where this is just unacceptable because like you said, Cartoon Network's reasons for wanting to go for these types of art styles is bullshit and they and their artists and animators are really just being cheap and lazy here. Like I said, it likely won't even matter that much to many if the story and writing is at least going to be good because the artwork and animation quality alone can turn many viewers away from the reboot. Having a strong story and writing is very much important but so is having some great quality artwork and animations. Artwork that can set the stage for the settings, environments, characters, etc. Animations that can deliver on many of the scenes that we're going to be seeing here. How are viewers supposed to be able to get invested with Ben developing as a character when he looks like crap? How are viewers going to be able to get invested in Ben's aliens if at least some of them look ugly and/or don't even look that much alien at all? How are any of the action scenes going to be good and memorable if the animation quality doesn't back them up? Yes I know we haven't seen any action scenes yet. It's just a point that I want to make. Overall, if they're going to have a strong and memorable story, setting, characters, scenes, etc, then they need to be able to be backed up well by a good quality art style and animations. Otherwise, there would be a chance that things can fall flat pretty badly. Just imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra looking like the Ben 10 reboot or the PPG reboot or Teen Titans Go! or Clarence. Imagine Young Justice and Legend of Korra having the lower quality animation work that Cartoon Network Studios is being more known of making. Even with a strong story and characters and all that stuff, those two shows would fall flat pretty badly. Imagine the Ben 10 Original Series having this type of art style and/or this quality of animations. We would more likely not be looking up to the Original Series as much as we did back then and still do and Ben 10 would more likely not have been able to be as successful as it was back then. Omniverse had some good story aspects and moments to it but the art style and animation quality doesn't help to hold those good story aspects and moments up that well. I previously thought that story, writing, characters and all that stuff are more important than visuals but really the visuals of a show, movie, video game, etc are really just as equally important. Everything needs to be able to work and blend together seamlessly and very well. If one of those seams hits a snag and breaks, chances are that everything can fall apart either quickly or eventually. Just something that I want to point out. A strong story is very much important but just as equally so does that apply to having strong visuals and animations as well.
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    @Rexfan1333 The only thing sucks of Alien X is Bellicus and Serena they are very confusing for Ben but i love the episode in Omniverse (Ben vs the Universe)that he was alive it was the first time he was fighting to a villain
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    i have that feeling to although i really dont want it i want to see his orgin in this universe