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    Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2

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    • Tactical Ochoa
      Tactical Ochoa @Ebomnitrix last edited by Tactical Ochoa

      @Ebomnitrix Yes John DiMaggio was among the cast in the OS but he didn't voice Four Arms. He voiced Vulkanus. Richard McGonagle was the original voice actor for Four Arms. DiMaggio did good as Four Arms but I prefer McGonagle over him. McGonagle had the more intimidating and alien voice for Four Arms than DiMaggio.

      Greg Cipes might be coming back. Like I said, it's a maybe and in order to be sure of this, more info on the voice cast will have to be released. Honestly though, the more I listen to the reboot Stinkfly's voice, the less it sounds like Cipes but again, as I previously explained, voice actors are voice actors and they can change their voices to sound very much different from their usual and natural voices. Even then, Cipes was not among the original voice cast. He was not the original voice actor for Kevin. Michael Reisz and Charlie Schlatter were the original Kevin voice actors and I prefer them more over Greg Cipes' portrayal of Kevin. Regardless of whoever is voicing Stinkfly in the reboot, I still prefer Dee Bradley Baker's portrayal and voice for Stinkfly because it sounds intimidating, very much insect-like, and most importantly alien.

      As far as we can tell, the only original voice actor that's voicing their respected character is Tara Strong as Ben Tennyson and that's it at the moment. I still find the new voices for the aliens in the reboot to be crap and pathetic. It almost feels like that there was little to no care put into the voice department, much like how I feel that there was little to no care put into the reboot itself.

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      • Ultimate OmniTri
        Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by Ultimate OmniTri

        I'm still wondering who the heck is voicing gwen. Also can anyone make out who is voicing heatblast?
        Also the voices not sounding alien kinda keeps up with the people behind the show wanting the aliens to be more human like which is really weird.

        Also if you freeze the video you can see 2 new villians and i took a screenshot.
        alt text

        10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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        • GoodVibes1999
          GoodVibes1999 last edited by

          I can't wait to watch the episodes! And Gwen's voice still sounds pretty familiar to me.

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          • Tactical Ochoa
            Tactical Ochoa @Ben 10 Fan last edited by

            @Ben-10-Fan said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:

            Yes Craig Roger Smith will be the voice of some Characters here on his website he said

            Listen for me as "Diamondhead" (and other characters) on the new Cartoon Network series BEN 10 coming later in 2016.
            http://www.rogercraigsmith.com

            •Ben - Tara Strong
            •Diamondhead -Craig Roger Smith
            •Fourarms - John DiMaggio
            •Headblast - Craig Roger Smith

            @Omni-Triforcer

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            • Rexfan1333
              Rexfan1333 @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

              @Tactical-Ochoa Well, that's how a reboot works, if you don't like the voices, that's fine, all we can do is wait for the show to air, besides the sequels did the same with changing voices so I'm pretty use to this with Ben 10 anyway.

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              • Ultimate OmniTri
                Ultimate OmniTri Moderator last edited by

                Also talking about ben and his secret identity a while ago I would just like to say that in omniverse there was a couple times where young ben clearly transtormed in front of a bunch of people and never got caught so either ben is just really lucky or people are just really dumb and oblivious in the ben 10 universe

                10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                • Tactical Ochoa
                  Tactical Ochoa @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                  @Omni-Triforcer I consider that as bad writing.

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                  • VJ Philogene
                    VJ Philogene @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                    @Tactical-Ochoa to be fair 70% of omniverse had bad writing

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                    • Tactical Ochoa
                      Tactical Ochoa @VJ Philogene last edited by

                      @VJ-Philogene Definitely a reason for the many flaws, problems, and plot holes that Omniverse had. Bad writing is bad writing and will never be excused and deemed acceptable.

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                      • VJ Philogene
                        VJ Philogene @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                        @Tactical-Ochoa watching omniverse made me question everything that I thought I knew about Ben10.I mean there were parts of enjoyed like with the alternate reality Ben's and a few others but that's it I sort of wished that they spent more time on the alternate reality bens

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                        • Tactical Ochoa
                          Tactical Ochoa @VJ Philogene last edited by

                          @VJ-Philogene The alternate Bens was nice and yeah there were some good fun moments. The Malware arc was pretty good, even though it did have a few problems and I felt that it missed a pretty big opportunity to show what led up to Ben removing the Omnitrix before the events of Alien Force. Other than that, Omniverse was just another show in the series that had a lot of problems that held it back greatly. I consider Ultimate Alien to be the worst show in the franchise so far but Omniverse wasn't really a good show overall. Average at best; pretty bad at worse.

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                          • Tactical Ochoa
                            Tactical Ochoa @VJ Philogene last edited by

                            @VJ-Philogene Granted though, having all these different versions of Ben and all these alternate universes did make Omniverse a little too complicating as well and I would have rather favor the Ben 10 series to not have multiple universes. It was a concept that really wouldn't have worked out well for the series anyways because even Man of Action tried to design an earlier version of the Original Series that would focus on Ben having alternate versions of himself from different universes. However, they scrapped that direction for the series because Man of Action realized that it would've made Ben 10 way too complicated for viewers to follow up on.

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                            • VJ Philogene
                              VJ Philogene @Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                              @Tactical-Ochoa I understand what you mean about the alternate Ben's and I also agree that ultimate alien was one of the worst in the franchise I think the ultimate forms were just useless although I did like the fact that their were some old aliens that mad a reappearance and I liked the forge of creation and ben10000 returns

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                              • Tactical Ochoa
                                Tactical Ochoa last edited by

                                I don't know if this bit of info was mentioned on here yet but according to this article, the Ben 10 reboot would air on April 2017.

                                http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/tv-radio/this-isnt-your-moms-ben-10-2067184

                                The article also mentions the concept of having the characters grow up with the audience. What I'm going to focus on is mostly in regards to the first paragraph, which I will quote here. The overall concept and argument that the article covers is something to take note of as well though.

                                From the article:
                                When you grow up watching a cartoon series, there comes a time when you quit the show because it just doesn’t make sense anymore. We have to grow up and when that happens, it becomes apparent that The Smurfs isn’t that cute anymore. Men can still wear Voltron T-shirts, but that’s just clinging to the beautiful yet distant memory of a past that’s long gone.

                                To me, at least, the article makes the argument that once you have grown up, cartoon shows are just not good anymore because you've grown up now. Or at least that's the argument that I interpreted them making. That's not true at all here. I still enjoyed watching Ed Edd n Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Kids Next Door, Chowder, and even the more recent Regular Show. Even though I haven't seen much of Regular Show, I still saw plenty enough to have a good sense of how the show is like and I found enjoyment in it. Like I even said before, despite the numerous problems with Ben 10 Omniverse, there were some moments that were pretty good. The reasons for liking these shows aren't that of nostalgia and I didn't stop watching certain shows because I grew out of them and the same goes for most others as well. I like these shows because they were well made shows that were, and still are, great and fun to watch. I stop watching other shows because they're terrible, or have become terrible, shows or they just don't interest me. Steven Universe is a good show but I don't watch it because I'm just not interested in it. I've seen some episodes of the PPG reboot but I don't watch it anymore because it's a terrible show. Not because I didn't grow up with it. Again, this is the case that goes with most other people, if not everyone.

                                I do appreciate Ben 10 going the direction of having the characters grow up with the viewers but that's not the real reason as to why people keep watching the show or stop watching the show. Some people keep watching Ben 10 because they still enjoy watching it and still think that the series is still of good quality; not because the characters were of the same age as the viewers. Some people stopped watching Ben 10 because the quality of the series diminished and each entry into the series got worse and worse; not because people grew out of the show.

                                Even then, another thing to take note of is that the concept of having the characters grow up with the fans and viewers didn't actually stick around for long with Ben 10. Cartoon Network really only stuck with this concept till the end of Alien Force. After that, Ben has remained as a teenager till Omniverse and now instead of going back to that very concept and focus on the characters now being adults, Cartoon Network went back to making Ben a kid again when instead they could've made a Ben 10,000/Ken 10 show with Ben now as an adult and his son Ken being a kid.

                                Again, this was just something that I wanted to point out and counter-argue on. This video also helps to further explain my argument as well. Overall though, again, viewers don't watch shows because the characters grow up with them and viewers don't stop watching shows because they've out grown them. The real reason that viewers watch cartoon shows is because they're of good or better quality while viewers stop watching other shows because the quality of those other shows had diminished and went down. I've heard that some of the more recent shows such as Steven Universe and Adventure Time are actually more popular with teens and adults than with kids. Those shows don't have the characters grow up and age (at least as far as I could tell since that I don't watch those shows) and many, if not most, of the viewers that watch those shows are older and didn't grow up with them. Again, characters growing up with the viewers is not the real reason why many viewers still watch those very shows. It's because those shows have really good quality to them.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38r9WSqkLzk

                                As I stated before, according to the article, the Ben 10 reboot will air on April 2017. I don't know or remember if that was mentioned on here before so just in case it hasn't, there's some little new bits of info here. That's my stance and opinion that I have with the topic that this article covers as well.

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                                • VJ Philogene
                                  VJ Philogene last edited by

                                  So Idk if anyone else noticed this but if you pause the ben10 reboot behind the scenes video at 2 seconds(where the animator was animating a scene from the show) you will see the still photos of Ben,Gwen and Max from the reboot but in that particular photo Ben isn't wearing the omnitrix which makes me wonder if we may get the whole origin of how Ben got the omnitrix in the first place.

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                                  • Ultimate OmniTri
                                    Ultimate OmniTri Moderator @VJ Philogene last edited by

                                    @VJ-Philogene said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:

                                    So Idk if anyone else noticed this but if you pause the ben10 reboot behind the scenes video at 2 seconds(where the animator was animating a scene from the show) you will see the still photos of Ben,Gwen and Max from the reboot but in that particular photo Ben isn't wearing the omnitrix which makes me wonder if we may get the whole origin of how Ben got the omnitrix in the first place.

                                    Didn't notice that. Hmm maybe or maybe they just didn't draw the omnitrix on him for some reason. I guess we will find out in a month.

                                    10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!

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                                          • VJ Philogene
                                            VJ Philogene @Ultimate OmniTri last edited by

                                            @Omni-Triforcer I think that if they do have the origin there won't be a full episode about it I think that it would just be in the beginning of the episode or I think that they would probably have a theme song explaining what happened like in the OS

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