Please Don't Make The Reboot Like This
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So, Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice just came out today. I didn't see the movie yet but based on the all these reviews that came out, it would probably be best for me not to waste my time seeing it because apparently Warners Bros and DC screwed up really badly here with this movie. If anyone here was expecting this movie to suck, yeah again, based on all these reviews that came out today, you're spot on with that.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I saw the movie the first hour and a half to two hours were really boring, but the end is good.
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@cooljay7 Based on reviews, not everything about the movie was bad. I heard that Ben Affleck was great as Batman, the visual looks of the movie plus the fight itself between Batman and Superman was done very well. Some people said that some aspects of the film were actually quite good. Unfortunately, there's a lot of bad elements in the film. One of the biggest problems that reviewers pointed out are all these numerous plot elements that were shoehorned into the film and at least most of them aren't even necessary to have. Again, based on these reviews, I'm not even going to see it in theaters. Rather not waste my time and money on a major screw up like this.
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@Tactical-Ochoa Yeah Ben Affleck did a great job and the fight was great.
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When the fight occurs, the movie starts to become good.
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Dont listen to the critics i saw it and it was great
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Says you. We're talking about a movie that even pissed off the DC fans. You say Batman v. Superman is great yet most critics, viewers, and fans say that it's bad. 30% on Rotten Tomatoes bad. A movie that apparently screwed up so much that it even sparked a new meme: the "Sad Batman" meme. Yeah, I'm going with the majority here and I'd rather not go and see it in theaters. Maybe when it comes out on DVD or something but not in theaters.
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Im a huge dc fan and have read most of the comics so don't even try to tell me that what i say doesnt count it wasnt the best but it was definitely enjoyable.
U dont have to he so dang rude about it
Im getting tired of all your damn negativety we shouldnt have to sit here and read negative comments all the time i get that its your opinion and i respect that but try to not make it negative all the time.10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I realized that last comment did seem too harsh. My apologies. That wasn't my intention there. Yes, your views do count but so do the views and opinions of everyone else that did see the film. Although, who says that you have to be a huge DC fan to have your opinion count? I'm not saying that your opinion doesn't count and I'm not trying to do that. I'm stating the sheer opposition that you're going up against. Again, my apologies for my last comment. I have to agree that it was too harsh and that what you thought of it are not my intentions.
There's a reason why we have reviews; why we have critics and reviewers. Reviews are there to help people decide better as to whether or not something is worth investing into. To ensure that films that are crap don't get what they don't deserve while films that are actual gems do get the recognition that they do deserve. Also, you're saying that we shouldn't listed to the very individuals that are professionals at analyzing and examining films and giving their ratings on them to further help the viewers, again, decide on whether or not a film is worth investing into. Critics are experts at reviewing any pieces of work. As long as they're honest with their reviews and ratings, we should listen to them because they are very important to have in this industry.
However, no, I am not negative all the time. There are plenty of times where I give a more positive perspective here. There are plenty of times where I show that I don't hate and dislike everything. That there's quite a lot that I do like and enjoy. You're asking me to try and not be negative all the time yet I haven's been completely negative about everything. I even mentioned before a few aspects of the Ben 10 reboot that I did like. So again, no, I am not being negative all the time here.
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So, I found this video about Channel Awesome's Sibling Rivalry review of "Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice." Pretty much everything that's going on with this film, these guys cover. Every good and bad aspect of this film plus the viewer reactions and some other stuff, these guys cover. Here is the nearly 1 hour long video that, in my opinion, sums pretty much everything about BvS up if anyone is interested in watching.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention a spoiler warning for the review video.
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Everyone needs to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJYsgWohL0&feature=youtu.be
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer I'm getting an error and the video won't play. I think I know what it is though.
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@Tactical-Ochoa said:
@Omni-Triforcer I'm getting an error and the video won't play. I think I know what it is though.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJYsgWohL0When lives are on the line, it's hero time!
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@admin I'm actually the one who made that! I was a little shy to post it here because some of us tend to get a little opinionated, but I'm glad it got shared here. Hope you all enjoy it.
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@Hawk-Kawaii Just saw your video, it was great. You should make more.
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@Hawk-Kawaii said:
@admin I'm actually the one who made that! I was a little shy to post it here because some of us tend to get a little opinionated, but I'm glad it got shared here. Hope you all enjoy it.
I agree with it all thank you for making it
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Thanks @admin.
@Hawk-Kawaii Yeah I saw this video before and yeah, I agree. It is important to keep an open mind. However, for clarification, most CN fans and viewers aren't willing to do that anymore for Cartoon Network. We've given CN plenty of opportunities to make improvements. We've given CN plenty of chances to stop their bullshit and turn things around for the better. Now, people are tired, sick, and fed up about what CN has been doing in recent years. At this point now, fans and viewers no longer want to have an open mind because they have lost their patience with CN. Instead, most CN fans and viewers have gone towards the mindset of "either give us a show worthy of quality or screw you, we're leaving your network." That instead, people rather just set their expectations and follow their instincts. That at this point, people rather give CN an ultimatum. That is how things are now and in my opinion, I'd say that's a valid reason for people's negative views on the Ben 10 reboot and many of Cartoon Network's other shows. After all, there is a major reason for why the number of CN viewers had dropped from over 33 million to over 13 million in the last 7 to 8 years and why that number continues to fall. People are getting sick and tired of CN's bullshit and as a result, they no longer want to have an open mind on many of CN's shows anymore because of what CN has been doing in recent years.
Here is another thing that I want to clarify as well. Yeah, you can suggest for fans and viewers to have an open mind but you can't expect them not to. Ben 10 is a beloved and well established franchise. If the Ben 10 reboot turns out to be bad, it's not going to ruin people's childhoods and degrade the quality of the Original Series but fans and viewers just don't want to see their favorite franchises be butchered into a bloody cash grab pulp. They don't want to see their favorite franchises be reduced to be nothing more than just some blatant product advertisement. They don't want to see the Ben 10 series end on a down note, which is also a valid reason for why so many are against this reboot. I mean like christ, many are being turned off by the Ben 10 reboot simply because it's a reboot and most reboots and remakes nowadays are nothing more than just blatant and terrible cash grabs and Cartoon Network is no exception from that. You mentioned how the Ben 10 reboot shouldn't really be compared to Teen Titans Go! and the PPG reboot but actually, it's right and valid to make those comparisons. Teen Titans Go! had quite a strong influence to how CN had decided to treat their shows and the PPG reboot is made by CN Studios, who is the very production team that's working on the Ben 10 reboot. While CN Studios had made some really good shows in the past, they have also had their fair share of making some pretty bad shows as well; especially in recent years with a few exceptions. I believe that I even mentioned before that certain individuals, such as Bob Boyle and Sam Register, might be involved with the Ben 10 reboot as well and some of the people working at CN Studios aren't really that favored by many that watch CN's channel. CN Studios had also built up a fair share of a reputation in not having up to quality art designs and animation works. The most recent example is the PPG reboot. YouTuber MonstersReview had mentioned the artwork and animation flaws that the PPG reboot has. Also, CN owns these shows. They own Teen Titans. They own Powerpuff Girls. They own Ben 10. Even if Man of Action are the Executive Producers of he Ben 10 reboot, CN has the most amount of power here. What they say and want goes and their blatant and over abundance of product advertising and marketing is a major reason that shows that they have the most amount of power over their shows here, which worries even more fans and viewers.
There are also some more things that I want to clarify as well. Man of Action did indeed have a lot of creative control over the original Ben 10 show. They've worked on the concept of Ben 10 for 3 years before CN picked the series up. Man of Action were also the very people that managed the series as well before CN replaced them with different sets of writers such as Dwayne McDuffie and Glen Murikami. The Original Series is indeed the very show that Man of Action envisioned for Ben 10 and did have a lot of control over and a lot of say in.
I'm just making this comment to explain and clarify as to why people have such negative views on the Ben 10 reboot. What you decide to do with this side of the argument is really up to you. Also, you may say that us viewers don't control this series but we do determine whether or not it becomes successful. Once again, CN lost about 20 million viewers in the last 7 to 8 years and the number of viewers that are left is continuously dropping. There are many factors that influence the major drop in viewers but the most (or at least one of the most) major factors is that CN is focusing more on product advertising and marketing than the actual quality of their shows. Again, I'm just clarifying and explaining some things about your argument.
(Hopefully the graph that I linked will show the data. I think it's on some time trial so be sure to get a good look at the graph if it shows the data.)
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@Hawk-Kawaii Thanks for the video hope you should make many more of them
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@Tactical-Ochoa Its probably gonna take me a while to sift through that big chunk of text, but I would, for the moment being, like to point out that though every one of CN's shows is indeed made by CN and aired on CN, every show (even if some share execs) has a completely different production team. There are probably 10 to 12 shows of theirs that are produced in-house, meaning at the main studio, and all others are produced in other studios, all by separate individual production teams that have nothing more to do with each other than the fact that they work for CN.
So yeah, it kind of is a little unreasonable to be comparing a show you haven't seen yet to two other reboots that air on the same network with completely different production teams, one of which is not produced in the same studio as the other two. Although since all three are reboots of past CN properties involving superheroes and meeting mixed reactions, it's easy to understand the misconception.
I'd also like to point out that, since I've released the video, a lot more people have been coming out of the woodworks in favor of giving the reboot a positive chance and are actually pretty hyped. The point of the video was to kind of help people see the bright side of things, and I'm not quite sure you're speaking on behalf of as many people as you might think you are in terms of people being super fed up and being on the verge of boycotting CN.
I mean, I completely understand your hesitance towards a lot of things revolving around the reboot, and those feelings are entirely valid. However, you might be looking a little too hard into some things here.
Really hoping you'll give it a chance in the long run and that you'll grow to enjoy it in the future. Lots of love and hard work goes into it, and you might find you'll enjoy yourself a lot better if you loosen up and give something like this a try.
Here's to change!
