Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot
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@Omni-Triforcer Kids are kids. They'll pretty much like almost anything just as long as it look cool and/or fun or anything else that I missed. Not a lot of kids know of the importance of story, setting, character development, structure, design, etc. That's why a lot of kids would do stuff like buy Call of Duty games. It looks cool to them and that's it. Kids don't know better, which ticks me off even more when companies like Activision and Cartoon Network use that as an exploit to gain more profits by catering to kids, even though they can get a lot more off of making shows and games and other stuff when it caters to pretty much anyone: kids, teens, and adults. The Ben 10 Original Series being an example of that and the same goes for Teen Titans, Symbiotic Titans, Samurai Jack, Generator Rex, Young Justice, etc. Focusing on captivating kids, teens, and adults is much more rewarding than just catering to kids.
I know what you mean too. I remember just loving Star Wars The Phantom Menace when I was a kid. Now I look back at it again today and god it is just crap. Same for Attack of the Clones. Revenge of the Sith was better but still had a lot of issues. The Star Wars Original Trilogy still remains amazing though because they are just much better made films.
Again, in actuality, kids will like anything as long as it entertains them. That's a major reason why I find Cartoon Network's claims for making the reboot in certain ways because kids prefer that more is total BS. Like the 11 minute episodes for the Ben 10 Reboot. It's total BS when Cartoon Network states that this was done because kids like shorter content. Uh no, kids won't mind about how long each episode is just as long as they are entertained and having fun watching it. 11 minutes, half a hour, a full hour, 2 hours, etc. It doesn't matter to them just as long as they are having fun watching the show. Cartoon Network, as I stated before, is just being cheap and lazy.
You know what, next time I try to contact Cartoon Network, I'll let them know about that.
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@Omni-Triforcer Well, there's another set of argument points that were discussed. I swear, every time I ever think that I've discussed everything that I wanted and needed to discuss about this reboot and the Ben 10 series, more discussion and argument points end up popping up later on that needed to be covered. Always makes me chuckle.
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I think they did shorter episodes because the attention span of kids is the same level as the amount that cn cares about the actual concept, they are both very very very very very small
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@chronosapien234 Ha, oh please, kids have a much much better attention span than that. That is just what Cartoon Network thinks. Or at the very least that's what Cartoon Network wants their audience to think.
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confirmed paul eiding not voicing grandpa max in the reboot. https://twitter.com/4pauleiding/status/681172960325926912
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer And this sums up my reaction to it.
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Man of action says they are very involved in the reboot. My Faith is restored in it. https://twitter.com/rouleau1/status/681740188733706240
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer That's good and does give me some faith but I'd say that's not enough yet. There's still too much that's working against the reboot. I covered every single side and angle there is at the moment. This reboot is still being run by Cartoon Network. This reboot is still not the Ben 10 show that Man of Action truly wants to make. Man of Action still doesn't have full creative control and freedom here. There's a difference between making a show that you are told to make and likely don't even want to make at all and making a show that you really truly want to make. For me, I don't want Man of Action to just be writing and editing the show. I want Man of Action to be the ones actually making the show. To be the ones that are actually writing, designing, and structuring the show in the very way that they envisioned it; not just writing and editing it in the way that Cartoon Network wants it to be made. Those are just my thoughts on it.
It's pretty much just ghost writing at this point. Cartoon Network are still the ones that are actually making the show. Man of Action is just doing what Cartoon Network is telling them to do.
I'm also including the page about Paul Eiding not voicing Max onto this page because I want to include my thoughts on that as part of my arguments and criticisms on the Ben 10 reboot.
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fair enough.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Yeah. I don't like it myself though but it is something that, I think to me, has to be mentioned. Not everything is what it seems. It's always best to cover every side and angle and figure out what's really going on. Regardless of whether or not it's good.
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New artwork of ben and diamondhead what do you think? https://www.instagram.com/p/_66z-PJZjX/
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Yeah, I just saw it myself. Diamondhead doesn't look that bad but he doesn't look good either. I agree with ZeVikingSif on the Ben 10 Wiki. The gold really does look stupid and doesn't even make sense. The Omnitrix is supposed to shape Ben's clothes to fit and suit his aliens so where did the gold even come from. It should be green instead. As I stated before, Cartoon Network doesn't even understand what made this series truly great. They can't even get the little things right such as how the Omnitrix is really supposed to function. Diamondhead seems to have more of an appearance to Omniverse in my opinion. Again, doesn't look bad but it's not good either.
As for Ben, if anyone here thought his reboot design looked bad enough, he looks even worse here. Yeah, this reboot really is becoming more like Teen Titans Go. If I even have any faith left in this reboot, I lost even more of it.
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i mean its not that the gold looks bad its that it just doesn't make sense. Although i wouldn't blame cn for this as someone stated on the wiki they arnt the ones that design the aliens.
Im just wondering if theres more artwork inside the calender if so i want to see if someone who has the calendar can take a pic of it.10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Hopefully. Also, I mentioned on the Ben 10 Wiki how it's like what Brandon Storm9 stated about ghost writing with Man of Action on this reboot. To me, I see this as ghost designing.
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yeah i saw that i also mentioned on the wiki how the gold could be a mistake and its actually supposed to be green who knows.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer I hope it gets better but considering how Cartoon Network is, I doubt it.
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someone pointed out on the ben 10 englishboard forums that in af/ua the omnitrix/ultimatrix didnt adapt clothing to the aliens so maybe they took that function out of the omnitrix its a possibilitiy.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Yeah, we saw that ourselves when we watched Alien Force and Ultimate Alien. Apparently, it was I believe because of the Omnitrix recalibrating itself (again, apparently) but I find that as another stupid aspect that the new writers changed and/or did. Like how the Omnitrix itself just somehow magically changed it's physical appearance with no reason as to the purpose why. Again, Dwayne McDuffie did state that he never watched the Original Series before he got to work on Alien Force.
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Come to think about it, I guess the design for the reboot Diamondhead is acceptable enough. I could be fine with this. His design just needs some improvements to it.
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Well we are probably less then a year away from the reboot.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
