State of Cartoon Network
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@Ben-10-Fan Quite un-expecting but pretty nice. Wow. Funny how 8 of the 10 choices on this list are from the original series.
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I had a talk with some Ben 10 fans, and people are pissed Big Chill and Diamondhead aren't even on the 10. People were even surprised to see Cannonbolt wasn't in the List. That and they said Blitzwolfer didn't really need to be in the 10. For me I can agree, same with Snare-Oh but people like Snare-Oh since they consider him as the "Best Anur Alien next to Whampire"
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@Tactical-Ochoa 8 of the 10 from the OS? Hmm.. Because even they know that the Original Series was the Best Ben 10 Show. And the video was very surprising I was not expecting that.
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@Ben-10-Fan its really surprising to find out that these people not only watched the show but are as well versed and into it as us normal fans
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@JrPhilgene That's another great thing about that video. Yeah, WatchMojo have their issues that significantly affects them and how people view them as but there are moments where they do shine, like this very video.
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Where is the Classic Cartoon Network? by PIEGUYRULZ
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In response with that video, I think Cartoon Network has been trying to send a message for a very long time, and I think this message is to tell everybody who grew up with Cartoon Network from the late 1990s-2012 is they want those viewers to grow up and to stop watching Cartoon Network all together.
Cartoon Network has been responding negatively towards older audiences, and the more we demand for change, they more they'll ignore us because now the network is doing this on purpose to piss off the older viewers even more. And now that they've abandoned all the older shows entirely, or rebooted our childhoods just to throw us off even more.
This is something I think the network is doing intentionally on its own, telling viewers of that era to stop watching their shows and pull the whole "cartoons is for kids, so grow up." This problem I can see rising for a very long time until new people are in charge of the network, which even then things could get worse?
Not only that, there's a strong lack of variety, now everything has the same animation, the same slice of life episodic shows. All they have to throw in is different voices and looks and it technically still is the same show. CN right now is only caring about releasing cartoons and only money endorsing Teen Titans Go, because not only do kids like it, but because we hate it with a passion so much they won't stop airing this show until we decide to stop watching Cartoon Network entirely.
I say that if this is the networks true intention, nobody is going to realize it until its over. And this might also be a thing happening to other networks right now, not only are they releasing bad content, but they're trying to push us out for the next generation, which has a totally different interest in series compared to us entirely.
So for now all we can really do is wait for this generation to end which won't be til around 2020 or even after that, or even when Christina Miller and the guy running the schedule gets F-I-R-E-D or steps down, and wait for the people of our generation to truly be hired to make better quality content in order to truly enjoy cartoons again.
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Another thing I'd like to say, I think right now we're at the middle of this run entirely.
Teen Titans Go even itself is in the middle of its run, why do I say that? Because that's what happens to really popular shows, around the middle of a franchise or series, it will become really popular and eventually die down to where nobody even knows its on anymore.Why do I say this? Look at Ben 10, it became a really popular phenomenon the second Alien Force and Ultimate became a thing, and ever since Omniverse its slowly backlashed to the point that nobody even cares about the current Ben 10 reboot.
Another example? Look at Adventure Time and Steven Universe? When people saw a strong story in these shows there was intense merchandising, a large and caring fanbase, but eventually Adventure Time died down because they stopped airing it after Season 6, not only to make more room for Steven Universe since we get one or the other, but they only give the show mini-series in those set seasons which eventually the show has confirmed to end by next year.
Steven Universe as well, when the show got merchandising and introduced LGBT themes and a plot, it become really popular, but now its died down because the quality of episodes is bad and people are only watching this show online through pirating rather than watching it on the network, and we have had no announcements for renewals, meaning it will end after CN's usual 78 episode schedule.This is a thing that's happening with Teen Titans Go as we speak, right now even the network has become the TTG network because they use the characters to promote for either their show or others entirely. I can see Teen Titans Go losing its fame after Season 5 since its our current "Spongebob" and will probably end by Season 6 or 7. Not confirming they were announced but I'm assuming since CN doubled the order of episodes since Adventure Time and Regular Show. But however the only backfire that could happen here, is that we're still at the beginning stage, which if we are, then CN will attempt to air Teen Titans Go as the New Simpsons, and nobody's gonna wanna want a show like this to air for about 10-20 years, if the negativity with this show continues, we will never see this show end because Cartoon Network responds to older audience's negativity which apparently is working for kids.
Lets hope we are at a middle stage right now, because if we're still at the beginning of it, it will never end... just like Spongebob and the Fairly Oddparents.
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@Ebomnitrix
What you said is interesting. Does cartoon network want the adults to leave them alone and they don't care for what they say. They only care about the kids. With Teen Titans GO CN made the show look bad for the people who watches Teen Titans in early 2000s. To make them go away and tell them to "Grow Up" -
That's exactly right, the CN executives don't care, they're trying to tell the mature and older audience to grow up and out of cartoons, by trying to create shows to piss most of us viewers off. They know the reboots are making us mad and they know the same art style and kinds of shows are doing so too. It's why they keep trying to push it, especially since that's what makes viewers on TV.
They're also shoving the big kid/tween audience away so it can focus on the very younger viewers, but CN should know how bad that failed for them back in 2007, getting an audience for people that young, why try that again if it failed?
CN needs to remember it should be a network for all audiences, and that everything doesn't have to focus on one genre, but since they keep trying to push this or combine genres just for comedy sakes, they need to understand its not going to work. If they don't do something soon, to even change that, then they're gonna go down the drain, just like what will soon happen to also Nickelodeon. -
What did they done in 2007 that made CN fail ?
Even if CN could bring back Teen Titans they won't do it since they want us to grow up and move on with your life. Despite millions asking CN to
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Has Cartoon Network KILLED The PowerPuff Girls?! by Stuff With Scout Fly
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Cartoon Network should really take some notes on this.
Same with Man of Action in regards to the Ben 10 reboot.
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Well there is some good news, Ben 10's ratings last week managed to be the best of CN at all this week, meaning its slowly topping TTG, if it approves even more we could see less TTG frmo the network, we can only hope they keep this up.
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@Ebomnitrix said in State of Cartoon Network:
Well there is some good news, Ben 10's ratings last week managed to be the best of CN at all this week, meaning its slowly topping TTG, if it approves even more we could see less TTG frmo the network, we can only hope they keep this up.
Thats Great!. Im not even sure what episode they're on tbh.
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@Omni-Triforcer
Bright Lights, Black Hearts just aired, but they're airing the episodes out of order for the use of "aliens" so right now, they're airing a bunch of episodes that have Wildvine. -
@Ebomnitrix Link to source?
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To the source I'm saying or the ratings?
The source I'm saying, this is just CN airing episodes out of order again, (just like they've always done with Ben 10 since UA) because the order we got in UK is the correct order, and based on how they're airing the show in the US, they're airing this based on each alien appearance. It went from a variety of 6, from Stinkfly, to Upgrade, to Diamondhead, and now Wildvine. You can tell from the episode list even on B10wikia.
The ratings source if that's what you're asking for, its on Nickandmore.