State of Cartoon Network
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Well I mean duh
Cartoon Network only cares about profit, color, and wacky hijinks, if any of the shows they air don't have them, then they don't get any screen time at all. Which goes for a large faction for a lot of CN's shows, in fact that's why they don't pick up a whole lot of shows we like, or take forever, like OK KO (which I love), Infinity Train (which I love), and of course Welcome to My Life (ABSOLUTE LOVE) -
@Ebomnitrix Link to the Toonzone article?
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I forget which article I found it but its under the CN area, sorry I didn't link it earlier.
However there is a discussion on Toonzone that explains the lacking of Steven Universe, also explaining why CN has the shitty schedule they have, I'll copy and paste for you all to read:"Steven Universe is a lore heavy show (or "story driven" as my boss put it) and therefore lacks "replay value". The network intentionally airs little SU because it's already seen the future seasons of the show and management has already pre-determined which episodes will get high ratings and which ones won't. The townie episodes as of late contribute to the overall story minimally, but don't make sense without prior viewing of previous episodes and understanding of the overall plot. SU's target demographic (10-13) along with the network's (5-13) largely wouldn't be able to comprehend episodes that are townies, boring and connected to the plot. (CN knew this for a while, this is why anime was regulated to Toonami on Saturdays) Therefore, CN airs these usually once a week, without any orders to us (IT, specifically the graphic designer division or the employee who runs the twitter account (he's an SU fan)) to do promos.
However, the network does plan (and did with the Space Arc and New Crystal Gems) to air many promos and online ads targeting SU's unintended older draw (you) to watch on TV or the App as part of their online launch. (Yes, they're looking into live-streaming as well).
So that's the deal. Teen Titans Go and Gumball take up like 50% and 35% of the schedule respectively, because those shows make stand-alone episodes that are enthralling for the demographic. SU's kind of in a snooze period with episodes that are uninteresting. When the cool episodes about lore come, CN stockpiles those eps. (bomb-format) with standard TV promos and usually Peridot twitter take overs."
To keep it short, if a show is episodic and has little plot, then it gets all the air time, but if each episode is heavily story-driven, then you only get to air once a week and get severely crapped on, does that make sense?
It's Action Time!
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@Ebomnitrix Didn't Cartoon Network used to rerun a lot of their story-driven shows in the past like Ben 10 and Teen Titans and what not. I seem to recall seeing that a lot on the channel and I also seem to recall that viewers, like myself, didn't find this to be a problem because at least most viewers already saw these episodes before and therefore already know what's going on. I'm not buying that bullshit. It is completely fine to do reruns of story-driven shows; especially when you rerun them in the correct order of continuity. I recall that AMC does this whenever a new season of The Walking Dead is coming out.
If some viewers out there don't understand what's going on in certain episodes of a show because they didn't see the previous episodes, then they can always just go and look up the show itself and watch it in the correct order of continuity so that they can understand what's going on. Hell, watching reruns of story-driven shows can help newcomers understand what's going on. Again, my example of AMC doing rerun marathons of The Walking Dead to build things up for a new season. If you don't do reruns of story-driven shows while new episodes/seasons are coming out, newcomers aren't going to understand what's going on.
That's one of the points of reruns. To introduce newcomers to a show. I mean like christ, with the way that they structured the Powerpuff Girls and Ben 10 reboot, the new generation might as well go and look up and watch the old shows because both those reboots don't do proper introductions to help build up what's going on in the shows. Even episodic shows with little plot do this. Why? Because the creators of those shows want their viewers to understand what's going on so that they can stay around and continue to watch these shows. Networks are always doing reruns of their shows, both the episodic ones with little plots and the heavily story-driven ones.
So yeah, again, I find this to be bullshit. It's completely fine to air reruns of story-driven shows because of what I already explained. The people at Cartoon Network are freakin idiots to think otherwise. They had done stuff like this before and it worked. If it worked before, it can and still work today.
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Look at this funny thing
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@npzman That's not funny. That's not funny at all. Also, it's people like you doing this stuff that is part of the reason as to why Cartoon Network doesn't listen to their fans and viewers. You are part of the problem so for other people's sake, quit doing this crap.
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Top 10 Coolest Ben 10 Aliens by WatchMojo: https://youtu.be/K3wTV02gVdk
Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun
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@Ben-10-Fan Quite un-expecting but pretty nice. Wow. Funny how 8 of the 10 choices on this list are from the original series.
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I had a talk with some Ben 10 fans, and people are pissed Big Chill and Diamondhead aren't even on the 10. People were even surprised to see Cannonbolt wasn't in the List. That and they said Blitzwolfer didn't really need to be in the 10. For me I can agree, same with Snare-Oh but people like Snare-Oh since they consider him as the "Best Anur Alien next to Whampire"
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@Tactical-Ochoa 8 of the 10 from the OS? Hmm.. Because even they know that the Original Series was the Best Ben 10 Show. And the video was very surprising I was not expecting that.
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@Ben-10-Fan its really surprising to find out that these people not only watched the show but are as well versed and into it as us normal fans
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@JrPhilgene That's another great thing about that video. Yeah, WatchMojo have their issues that significantly affects them and how people view them as but there are moments where they do shine, like this very video.
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Where is the Classic Cartoon Network? by PIEGUYRULZ
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In response with that video, I think Cartoon Network has been trying to send a message for a very long time, and I think this message is to tell everybody who grew up with Cartoon Network from the late 1990s-2012 is they want those viewers to grow up and to stop watching Cartoon Network all together.
Cartoon Network has been responding negatively towards older audiences, and the more we demand for change, they more they'll ignore us because now the network is doing this on purpose to piss off the older viewers even more. And now that they've abandoned all the older shows entirely, or rebooted our childhoods just to throw us off even more.
This is something I think the network is doing intentionally on its own, telling viewers of that era to stop watching their shows and pull the whole "cartoons is for kids, so grow up." This problem I can see rising for a very long time until new people are in charge of the network, which even then things could get worse?
Not only that, there's a strong lack of variety, now everything has the same animation, the same slice of life episodic shows. All they have to throw in is different voices and looks and it technically still is the same show. CN right now is only caring about releasing cartoons and only money endorsing Teen Titans Go, because not only do kids like it, but because we hate it with a passion so much they won't stop airing this show until we decide to stop watching Cartoon Network entirely.
I say that if this is the networks true intention, nobody is going to realize it until its over. And this might also be a thing happening to other networks right now, not only are they releasing bad content, but they're trying to push us out for the next generation, which has a totally different interest in series compared to us entirely.
So for now all we can really do is wait for this generation to end which won't be til around 2020 or even after that, or even when Christina Miller and the guy running the schedule gets F-I-R-E-D or steps down, and wait for the people of our generation to truly be hired to make better quality content in order to truly enjoy cartoons again.
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Another thing I'd like to say, I think right now we're at the middle of this run entirely.
Teen Titans Go even itself is in the middle of its run, why do I say that? Because that's what happens to really popular shows, around the middle of a franchise or series, it will become really popular and eventually die down to where nobody even knows its on anymore.Why do I say this? Look at Ben 10, it became a really popular phenomenon the second Alien Force and Ultimate became a thing, and ever since Omniverse its slowly backlashed to the point that nobody even cares about the current Ben 10 reboot.
Another example? Look at Adventure Time and Steven Universe? When people saw a strong story in these shows there was intense merchandising, a large and caring fanbase, but eventually Adventure Time died down because they stopped airing it after Season 6, not only to make more room for Steven Universe since we get one or the other, but they only give the show mini-series in those set seasons which eventually the show has confirmed to end by next year.
Steven Universe as well, when the show got merchandising and introduced LGBT themes and a plot, it become really popular, but now its died down because the quality of episodes is bad and people are only watching this show online through pirating rather than watching it on the network, and we have had no announcements for renewals, meaning it will end after CN's usual 78 episode schedule.This is a thing that's happening with Teen Titans Go as we speak, right now even the network has become the TTG network because they use the characters to promote for either their show or others entirely. I can see Teen Titans Go losing its fame after Season 5 since its our current "Spongebob" and will probably end by Season 6 or 7. Not confirming they were announced but I'm assuming since CN doubled the order of episodes since Adventure Time and Regular Show. But however the only backfire that could happen here, is that we're still at the beginning stage, which if we are, then CN will attempt to air Teen Titans Go as the New Simpsons, and nobody's gonna wanna want a show like this to air for about 10-20 years, if the negativity with this show continues, we will never see this show end because Cartoon Network responds to older audience's negativity which apparently is working for kids.
Lets hope we are at a middle stage right now, because if we're still at the beginning of it, it will never end... just like Spongebob and the Fairly Oddparents.
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@Ebomnitrix
What you said is interesting. Does cartoon network want the adults to leave them alone and they don't care for what they say. They only care about the kids. With Teen Titans GO CN made the show look bad for the people who watches Teen Titans in early 2000s. To make them go away and tell them to "Grow Up" -
That's exactly right, the CN executives don't care, they're trying to tell the mature and older audience to grow up and out of cartoons, by trying to create shows to piss most of us viewers off. They know the reboots are making us mad and they know the same art style and kinds of shows are doing so too. It's why they keep trying to push it, especially since that's what makes viewers on TV.
They're also shoving the big kid/tween audience away so it can focus on the very younger viewers, but CN should know how bad that failed for them back in 2007, getting an audience for people that young, why try that again if it failed?
CN needs to remember it should be a network for all audiences, and that everything doesn't have to focus on one genre, but since they keep trying to push this or combine genres just for comedy sakes, they need to understand its not going to work. If they don't do something soon, to even change that, then they're gonna go down the drain, just like what will soon happen to also Nickelodeon. -
What did they done in 2007 that made CN fail ?
Even if CN could bring back Teen Titans they won't do it since they want us to grow up and move on with your life. Despite millions asking CN to
