14 Sept 2016, 10:06
Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2
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@Tactical-Ochoa watching omniverse made me question everything that I thought I knew about Ben10.I mean there were parts of enjoyed like with the alternate reality Ben's and a few others but that's it I sort of wished that they spent more time on the alternate reality bens
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@VJ-Philogene The alternate Bens was nice and yeah there were some good fun moments. The Malware arc was pretty good, even though it did have a few problems and I felt that it missed a pretty big opportunity to show what led up to Ben removing the Omnitrix before the events of Alien Force. Other than that, Omniverse was just another show in the series that had a lot of problems that held it back greatly. I consider Ultimate Alien to be the worst show in the franchise so far but Omniverse wasn't really a good show overall. Average at best; pretty bad at worse.
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@VJ-Philogene Granted though, having all these different versions of Ben and all these alternate universes did make Omniverse a little too complicating as well and I would have rather favor the Ben 10 series to not have multiple universes. It was a concept that really wouldn't have worked out well for the series anyways because even Man of Action tried to design an earlier version of the Original Series that would focus on Ben having alternate versions of himself from different universes. However, they scrapped that direction for the series because Man of Action realized that it would've made Ben 10 way too complicated for viewers to follow up on.
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@Tactical-Ochoa I understand what you mean about the alternate Ben's and I also agree that ultimate alien was one of the worst in the franchise I think the ultimate forms were just useless although I did like the fact that their were some old aliens that mad a reappearance and I liked the forge of creation and ben10000 returns
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I don't know if this bit of info was mentioned on here yet but according to this article, the Ben 10 reboot would air on April 2017.
http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/tv-radio/this-isnt-your-moms-ben-10-2067184
The article also mentions the concept of having the characters grow up with the audience. What I'm going to focus on is mostly in regards to the first paragraph, which I will quote here. The overall concept and argument that the article covers is something to take note of as well though.
From the article:
When you grow up watching a cartoon series, there comes a time when you quit the show because it just doesn’t make sense anymore. We have to grow up and when that happens, it becomes apparent that The Smurfs isn’t that cute anymore. Men can still wear Voltron T-shirts, but that’s just clinging to the beautiful yet distant memory of a past that’s long gone.To me, at least, the article makes the argument that once you have grown up, cartoon shows are just not good anymore because you've grown up now. Or at least that's the argument that I interpreted them making. That's not true at all here. I still enjoyed watching Ed Edd n Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Kids Next Door, Chowder, and even the more recent Regular Show. Even though I haven't seen much of Regular Show, I still saw plenty enough to have a good sense of how the show is like and I found enjoyment in it. Like I even said before, despite the numerous problems with Ben 10 Omniverse, there were some moments that were pretty good. The reasons for liking these shows aren't that of nostalgia and I didn't stop watching certain shows because I grew out of them and the same goes for most others as well. I like these shows because they were well made shows that were, and still are, great and fun to watch. I stop watching other shows because they're terrible, or have become terrible, shows or they just don't interest me. Steven Universe is a good show but I don't watch it because I'm just not interested in it. I've seen some episodes of the PPG reboot but I don't watch it anymore because it's a terrible show. Not because I didn't grow up with it. Again, this is the case that goes with most other people, if not everyone.
I do appreciate Ben 10 going the direction of having the characters grow up with the viewers but that's not the real reason as to why people keep watching the show or stop watching the show. Some people keep watching Ben 10 because they still enjoy watching it and still think that the series is still of good quality; not because the characters were of the same age as the viewers. Some people stopped watching Ben 10 because the quality of the series diminished and each entry into the series got worse and worse; not because people grew out of the show.
Even then, another thing to take note of is that the concept of having the characters grow up with the fans and viewers didn't actually stick around for long with Ben 10. Cartoon Network really only stuck with this concept till the end of Alien Force. After that, Ben has remained as a teenager till Omniverse and now instead of going back to that very concept and focus on the characters now being adults, Cartoon Network went back to making Ben a kid again when instead they could've made a Ben 10,000/Ken 10 show with Ben now as an adult and his son Ken being a kid.
Again, this was just something that I wanted to point out and counter-argue on. This video also helps to further explain my argument as well. Overall though, again, viewers don't watch shows because the characters grow up with them and viewers don't stop watching shows because they've out grown them. The real reason that viewers watch cartoon shows is because they're of good or better quality while viewers stop watching other shows because the quality of those other shows had diminished and went down. I've heard that some of the more recent shows such as Steven Universe and Adventure Time are actually more popular with teens and adults than with kids. Those shows don't have the characters grow up and age (at least as far as I could tell since that I don't watch those shows) and many, if not most, of the viewers that watch those shows are older and didn't grow up with them. Again, characters growing up with the viewers is not the real reason why many viewers still watch those very shows. It's because those shows have really good quality to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38r9WSqkLzk
As I stated before, according to the article, the Ben 10 reboot will air on April 2017. I don't know or remember if that was mentioned on here before so just in case it hasn't, there's some little new bits of info here. That's my stance and opinion that I have with the topic that this article covers as well.
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So Idk if anyone else noticed this but if you pause the ben10 reboot behind the scenes video at 2 seconds(where the animator was animating a scene from the show) you will see the still photos of Ben,Gwen and Max from the reboot but in that particular photo Ben isn't wearing the omnitrix which makes me wonder if we may get the whole origin of how Ben got the omnitrix in the first place.
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@VJ-Philogene said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
So Idk if anyone else noticed this but if you pause the ben10 reboot behind the scenes video at 2 seconds(where the animator was animating a scene from the show) you will see the still photos of Ben,Gwen and Max from the reboot but in that particular photo Ben isn't wearing the omnitrix which makes me wonder if we may get the whole origin of how Ben got the omnitrix in the first place.
Didn't notice that. Hmm maybe or maybe they just didn't draw the omnitrix on him for some reason. I guess we will find out in a month.
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@Omni-Triforcer I think that if they do have the origin there won't be a full episode about it I think that it would just be in the beginning of the episode or I think that they would probably have a theme song explaining what happened like in the OS
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@VJ-Philogene said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
@Omni-Triforcer I think that if they do have the origin there won't be a full episode about it I think that it would just be in the beginning of the episode or I think that they would probably have a theme song explaining what happened like in the OS
This reminds me of something that has nothing to do with ben 10. In danny phantom they were originally going to have a orgin episode and a totally different theme song but when they decided to not do a orgin episode they changed the theme song to have the orgin in it. They even recorded the old theme song before they changed it so maybe they will do the same thing with the reboot.
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@james said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
Anyone else think that heatblast looks confused in that transformation? Im thinking that could be bens first transformation
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer No. Heatblast doesn't look confused to me. Looks more like he's just giving a straight face.
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@Tactical-Ochoa said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
@Omni-Triforcer No. Heatblast doesn't look confused to me.
Well he does to me. Usually heatblast has a determined expression on his face and this time its just a blank expression and to me he looks confused.
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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@Omni-Triforcer Again, I really don't see that. It just looks more like a straight face to me. Whatever though. It's not really something that I'm strongly focused on anyways.
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@Omni-Triforcer it looks like that to me too but. I'm not to sure about it being Ben's first transformation unless if the scene of him slamming down the omnitrix is from a different episode than him transforming
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New Ben 10 Promo (With Xlr8 Transformation) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLJ5Dj5SSw&feature=youtu.be
Ben 10 he's a kid and he wants to have fun
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@Ben-10-Fan said in Addressing the Ben 10 Reboot Part 2:
New Ben 10 Promo (With Xlr8 Transformation) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgLJ5Dj5SSw&feature=youtu.be
Is that a Talpaedan (armodrillo) chasing ben>
10 Years Of Hero Time!!!!
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Judging from what we've seen so far it seems that Gwen and Ben's relationship will be a bit different from the Os I could be wrong though